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Good things only last so long.... I didnt read the entire thread but it sounds like the end of a good (but expensive) thing.
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Looks like ol Bob Beck is tainting the McMillan name........
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John Boy on here does a great job of repainting stocks. Highly recomend
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Took 3 months to get this one in. Lefthand short action edge classic inlet for a Stiller but changed my mind and the ARC Nucleus drops right in too. Waiting for barrel and then this rig will be done. Not sure how many in a row that makes coming in perfect but double digits for sure. Hawkins DBM inlet was right on the money.
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The first stock I ever ordered from mcmillan maybe 12+/- years ago was cracked along the edge of the action area into the barrel channel. I called and explained the problem. I sent it back and they replaced the stock. It took a little while, but it was perfect. I still have the rifle and will likely never get rid of it. Since then I’ve had at least a dozen stocks and they’ve all been as ordered and in or under the time window given. Kelly Mcmillan answered an email I’d responded to our an email mailer. I simply stated I’d like to have a Sako 75 Hunter pattern for a 75 (not the 700 the deal was for) he offered me a 20% discount with my specified colors. It shipped in about 3 months maybe. I thought that was pretty incredible. I do like McMillan stocks, but the direction they’ve headed and the price of their stocks now...I doubt I’ll ever buy another new one. I had a great experience with Tom Manners as well in a similar situation. I really like how stocks too!
Regards, Nick- Georgia
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No Bedding Required.... Why? At McMillan, our stocks are inletted with extremely tight tolerances, and incorporate aluminum pillars. Our aluminum pillars are installed at the time of machining, being cut at a 1:1 ratio with the action inlet itself, resulting in phenomenal fit! Benefit of Aluminum Pillars Our aluminum pillars have a wall thickness of .065". They are locked in place with our inert fill material allowing for repeatable torque. Due to the side wall thickness of the pillars, there is no thermal expansion during firing, therefore no point of impact shifting or torque alterations.
I have to laugh at this email I received from McMillan. No it didn’t need bedding it needed a whole bunch of milling. I just want to thank LPR gunsmithing for fixing my McMillan stock since McMillan couldn’t even make it correctly
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Sounds like a shame if that's the direction they've decided to take under new management/ownership.
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I currently own six McMillan stocks, four purchased in the last 12 months. I can tell you from my experience that customer service was excellent, the stocks were all delivered within eight weeks of ordering. One was a Christensen Arms action and the inletting was just a bit off, I contacted them, they sent me a mailing label, I sent it off and had it back in a couple of weeks. Brown, AG, Manners et all seem very expensive to me but they are all similar in pricing to McMillan. I will order from them again as soon as I get sorted on which stock I need next.
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Looks like ol Bob Beck is tainting the McMillan name........ Bob Beck is nothing but a freaking clown, a clueless one at that.
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Looks like ol Bob Beck is tainting the McMillan name........ Bob Beck is nothing but a freaking clown, a clueless one at that. Agreed, but his wife is such a little hottie!
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I have 7 or 8 mcmillans and have traded away a similar number of them. Im very happy with them, but at today’s price point, I’m done with them. Lots of other good options.
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GOOD:
Mine took just 5 months. Came in Yesterday, It was the first component to show up for my new 6mmBR. It is also a custom marble pattern.
BAD:
it was the WRONG INLET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they made it long action instead of short. They are going hane the new one done in about 3 weeks.
SO, if anyone wants a long action, being returned. Call Them. Get you a deal.
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Man, haven’t hung out on the fire much in months. I come back and find McMillan is struggling. It seems from the comments that their reputation was built on craftsmanship rather than well defined product specs and processes, Those defined specs and processes are absolutely necessary for use in training, quality control etc… as businesses grow and new employees are brought in. Tribal knowledge can only carry it so far.
I’ll watch with interest as I may be looking for a couple of new stocks soon.
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This is all very interesting. I've only bought one stock from McMillan. I drove up to their plant just north of Phoenix and asked if they had a stock for an M98 FN Mauser I had. There had one a customer had ordered and then cancelled. I tried the fit and it was god so I bought it. The year was 1988. I bought another at a gun show I put on a short action Ruger tang safety M77. Ugly bulky club but I use it as a bad weather gun. I have two Winchester M70s that appear to have McMillan stocks from the Winchester factory. One an XTR and the other a Walmart special. Both extremely accurate and would be some of the last I would ever sell. I probably would never buy another McMillan stock because one I can't afford the expense and two I'm just about too damned old to do another serious hunt of any kind. Paul B.
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