Because it checks most of the other boxes! Mountains, Water, 2A, Enough civilization, Hunting, etc. It may just be too cold. and I'd have to be on the lookout for Conrad. I said 'semi'-rural, meaning not being in the middle of a 50000 acre ranch, but not the insipid 'suburbs' either. Budget $5-600 Tn's income tax is pretty attractive. Don't know why holding a fish offends someone, and don't know why you'd ignore someone for it, but whatever.
That kind of money gets you a lot in the mountains of western NC or eastern TN. There are a lot of lakes in the area and a lot of public land. Finding a place that backs up to the National Forest is still pretty easy. I'd buy land now and build when the stupid stops.
Sprint11: I see NO reason what so ever that anyone should fear jimconrad he has a penchant for bluster but I am sure he is harmless! Move to Montana! Taxes are low, people are friendly, endless opportunities for recreation (except surfing) and there is room to roam. I was hesitant about the winters here as I was born, raised and lived the first 50 years of my life in a very moderate climate area (Puget Sound). I absolutely LOVE the winters here in Montana - done 24 of them now and "no problemo". Then springs, summers and falls hereabouts are nothing less than glorious. Like you "I been around" and there is no place that is as wonderful, welcoming, entertaining and low stress as is Montana. Best of luck to you wherever you decide. Long live The Big Sky. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Sprint11: I see NO reason what so ever that anyone should fear jimconrad he has a penchant for bluster but I am sure he is harmless! Move to Montana! Taxes are low, people are friendly, endless opportunities for recreation (except surfing) and there is room to roam. I was hesitant about the winters here as I was born, raised and lived the first 50 years of my life in a very moderate climate area (Puget Sound). I absolutely LOVE the winters here in Montana - done 24 of them now and "no problemo". Then springs, summers and falls hereabouts are nothing less than glorious. Like you "I been around" and there is no place that is as wonderful, welcoming, entertaining and low stress as is Montana. Best of luck to you wherever you decide. Long live The Big Sky. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Idaho is better than Montana all around. But if it was me, Mississippi.
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Sprint11: I see NO reason what so ever that anyone should fear jimconrad he has a penchant for bluster but I am sure he is harmless! Move to Montana! Taxes are low, people are friendly, endless opportunities for recreation (except surfing) and there is room to roam. I was hesitant about the winters here as I was born, raised and lived the first 50 years of my life in a very moderate climate area (Puget Sound). I absolutely LOVE the winters here in Montana - done 24 of them now and "no problemo". Then springs, summers and falls hereabouts are nothing less than glorious. Like you "I been around" and there is no place that is as wonderful, welcoming, entertaining and low stress as is Montana. Best of luck to you wherever you decide. Long live The Big Sky. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
I'm thinking northwest Oklahoma. If I could get the wife to move it would be to the open plains. Southwest Kansas has been a silent dream of mine but Oklahoma is doable.
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Vermont...winters are cold and taxes are high. Most of the state is beautiful, rural and a great place to stay away from the liberals who inhabit the cities which are all small. Personally I like all 4 seasons.
If you really can’t take the cold, Montana, Wyoming, Idaho might not be the places for you. We had snow on the ground here today in Bozeman, and we had snow on the ground the first day of school last fall. Other than that, VarmintGuy is correct: Montana is a wonderful place. Get outside of Bozeman, Missoula and Kalispell and prices are more reasonable, though they are rising rapidly everywhere. Great hunting and lots of access, great fishing, camping and backpacking, mountain biking and even boating are all readily available here. Friendly people, reasonable tax rates and a business friendly environment round out the picture.Having said that, the craziness that has consumed Colorado, Oregon and Washington is readily evident here now. It might be a few years, maybe even a decade or two, but the hand writing is on the wall: Montana will someday be as insane as Oregon and Washington and California.
I am considering moving back to my home state of South Dakota. The Black Hills are super nice, and have a milder climate than western Montana, though it still is cold and snowy in the winter. Hunting is excellent as as the fishing. Hiking, camping and mountain biking are all great in the Black Hills. Rapid City has an excellent medical community and is large enough to have interesting attractions without being so large that it is unlivable. The political climate and tax structure are also advantageous. Just a thought.
When I have thought about this myself (not that I would ever do it - much too set in my ways), I have come to the conclusion that once I got down to what I thought was a good place, I would go there and rent something, even an apartment, for at least six months to find out what the area and people were really like before I made a permanent move. Wherever you decide to land, best wishes to you.
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IWhat are y'all's opinions? Just gathering all info possible to decide where to vamoose too. (Is it correct to use two apostrophe's in one word?)
I can't think of much that would entice me to move farther east than the foothills of the Rockies and maybe the Dakotas. It would take a lot of money guaranteed up front and be a temporary situation guaranteed up front.
Politics are a thing, taxes are a thing, no way around that. There is an amount of politics and taxes I'd put up with if the tradeoff is good enough hunting and fishing ... there are no utopias, no place that is perfect. It's a question of finding the most advantageous, or least disadvantageous, compromise.
Oregon is home. There are issues but I've grown up playing the system to get what I want out of it. It would be hard to leave. At the same time, not knowing the ropes, it might be hard to get started in. My first choices if I were to leave would be Idaho, Montana, possibly Wyoming, and some of the more mountainous parts of Nevada and Utah. Could consider parts of Colorado, New Mexico, and maybe Arizona ... maybe even California ... but probably not Washington. I don't know enough about real Alaska vs dream Alaska to be sure 'bout that one.
Are you in one of the Oregon counties that voted about switching to Idaho? Saw that and found it interesting, and similar to what happened n VA not long ago.
Nothing going on here other than getting ready to leave the Texas Hill Country for far north Idaho for a few months in a week or so. With the pup we are driving this trip, 500 miles a day, 4 days.
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