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It only takes a bit of practice to lean to find game fast with an angled. It's not rocket science.
I agree it's not rocket science, but it's just a fact that it is easier and faster to find something you are looking at rather than looking away from................... I would have agreed with you before I got my angled. Once I familiarized myself with the angled, I find it just as fast for me and much more comfortable to use
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It only takes a bit of practice to lean to find game fast with an angled. It's not rocket science.
I agree it's not rocket science, but it's just a fact that it is easier and faster to find something you are looking at rather than looking away from................... I would have agreed with you before I got my angled. Once I familiarized myself with the angled, I find it just as fast for me and much more comfortable to use After hundreds of instances where others could not find a critter in their angled scope, yet immediately found it in a straight scope I have to see it the other way. I personally know of more than a few guys that bought angled and swapped to straight but none off the top of my head that went the other way. I agree angled is more comfortable, and the way to go at the range, but the average guy glassimg and trying to find a specific animal is going to be far faster with a straight scope.
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It seems the trend the last few years has been toward angled spotters, for me I just don't get it. The angled is counterintuitive, if it's so great why not an angled rifle scope ????????
I was on a bighorn sheep hunt a couple years ago where more than one guide service was involved (aka: debacle), one of my coworkers had the new at the time Swarovski BTX. I fell in love with that spotter but just couldn't get past the angled. I could always find them faster with my straight. If Swarovski ever offered the BTX in a straight I would be the first in line Angled outsells straight by a bunch. They probably get range time before hunting time and being able to point it at the target first and leave it there makes it seem reasonable.
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the straight vs angled debate makes sense to me on the straight being more intuitive like throwing a rifle up or binocs where the straight would reign supreme. but, since i only use mine for sighting in on a bench i prefer angled personally. i get the argument for both tho........ Big Ed
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All i've ever used over the years has been a straight bodied spotter and I'm currently looking for a new one but they only offer it in the angled version. For those that use the angled spotters, do you have any issues using them having to look down all the time? I wondering about neck fatigue or cramping. I have used both and I prefer the straight. I don't find it easy to find what I am looking for or comfortable to view with the angled.
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On average, the guy with the angled spotter will be the one asking "where?" The straight spotter will have the target located long before the angled spotter. With brown bears and moose I often sit with multiple glassers looking at distant hillsides for many hours a day and just about every type and quality of glass gets used. Very few angled spotter users are very effective compared to the straight spotter users and a new critter spotted in a new direction/place usually turns into a major cluster for some.
Idahopro and another long-time hunting buddy have shown it can be done (and well), but they are the exception IME. This is pretty much my situation as well along with the occasional sheep hunt. I'm pretty good at spotting game with the straight spotter and probably should stick with that as I ain't getting any younger. The main reason for the question was because I had found a spotter on sale that was only offered in the angled version at a very good price but as of now I am leaning heavily towards the straight spotter.
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Have had both. Prefer angled. Here's my take on it,
Straight is a bit faster for a quick orientation on a distant point.
With a rotating angled eyepiece you can pan and tilt an enormous distance without the need to shift your tripod, or your position. Angled also allows a lower tripod, and easier uphill viewing.
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Angled for me and I have used both extensively.
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If you are over 6 ft tall and plan on standing....angled You’ve got to be kidding. I am 6'4" and amazingly, I agree with Brad for about the first time. Then you must love to bend over..... You ever do time?
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I have both. I use an angled now but have been thinking about going straight (shut up you pervs).
It can be an issue to find a critter with an angled but a guy gets used to it and can get quick. I also spend maybe 1/100th of the time looking through it vs binos, so it taking longer to find a critter generally isn't an issue for me, and neither is neck fatigue.
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Ain’t no way you’d ever go straight. I prefer straight. Use binos way more as well and straight makes switching much easier. I have both. I use an angled now but have been thinking about going straight (shut up you pervs).
It can be an issue to find a critter with an angled but a guy gets used to it and can get quick. I also spend maybe 1/100th of the time looking through it vs binos, so it taking longer to find a critter generally isn't an issue for me, and neither is neck fatigue.
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It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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There's quite a few optics in that photo. Where you there to keep an eye on the turbines?
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If you are over 6 ft tall and plan on standing....angled At 6'4" I switched to angled spotters years ago and it is much better, if I was using it with a window mount I would get a straight body scope..
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If you are over 6 ft tall and plan on standing....angled You’ve got to be kidding. I am 6'4" and amazingly, I agree with Brad for about the first time. Then you must love to bend over..... You ever do time? Really? You seem to have the experience... Use a real tripod and real men do not have to bend over. While mentioning tripods... the head makes a HUGE difference in user-friendliness. From Doug I have gotten several different fluid-drive pan heads and the difference is incredible. SIRUI VH-10 is the bigger one I use now and really like it. I use the next size down in the same line for smaller scopes. I also have two different sizes of Manfroto pan heads and really like them just fine, but the SIRUI line is cheaper.
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I’ve owned and used both, and prefer angled. Most of my spotting scope use is in mountains hunting Stone sheep, goats, caribou and the angled for me is more versatile in body positioning and comfort. It can be a little trickier to get on target, but a non issue in my experience. For me the versatility easily outweighs any difference. If I was in flat terrain all the time, then maybe the angled wouldn’t have the advantage of versatility and straight may be a better choice for me.
I will add that one disadvantage I see in angled for backpacking is in the shape. In a full backpack, I find it easier to pack an angled spotter with the eyepiece removed. When hunting with partial pack load, it’s no issue.
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Straight for me quicker and easier especially if someone wants to look and moves it. Often you have one good look to determine if you go after game. Anxious to try out my Phone Scope adapter this year.
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I actually have less neck fatigue with angled Same here.
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