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southern Missouri and northern Arkansas would be some areas to check out. Some decent areas in north-central Missouri also.
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If food came out of a box i would die….. or become liberal. Either choice is is living death.
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Or you could always eat mre for life….. aka anything north of the mason dixen….. your choice.
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Montana is near the top, but I hate the cold. Then why would you consider Montana? Because it checks most of the other boxes! Mountains, Water, 2A, Enough civilization, Hunting, etc. It may just be too cold. and I'd have to be on the lookout for Conrad. I said 'semi'-rural, meaning not being in the middle of a 50000 acre ranch, but not the insipid 'suburbs' either. Budget $5-600 Tn's income tax is pretty attractive. Don't know why holding a fish offends someone, and don't know why you'd ignore someone for it, but whatever. I can’t see where I said anything about your fish - what’s up with the comment? Anyway, based on you comments I don’t think Montana is for you - it’s snowing here at my house as I write this... Happy_Camper made a comment about the fish. No idea why. You were just collateral damage. You’re like Don Quixote... and that’s no compliment.
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Montana is near the top, but I hate the cold. Then why would you consider Montana? Because it checks most of the other boxes! Mountains, Water, 2A, Enough civilization, Hunting, etc. It may just be too cold. and I'd have to be on the lookout for Conrad. I said 'semi'-rural, meaning not being in the middle of a 50000 acre ranch, but not the insipid 'suburbs' either. Budget $5-600 Tn's income tax is pretty attractive. Don't know why holding a fish offends someone, and don't know why you'd ignore someone for it, but whatever. I can’t see where I said anything about your fish - what’s up with the comment? Anyway, based on you comments I don’t think Montana is for you - it’s snowing here at my house as I write this... Happy_Camper made a comment about the fish. No idea why. You were just collateral damage. You’re like Don Quixote... and that’s no compliment. Ok Sancho
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I’m holding out a little longer. But I’m getting low on Black n Milds Isn't that how you like yer wimmins?
l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
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Georgia has the best sweet tea, fried chicken and water melon, if that's your liking.
Life is good live it while you can.
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I'm a big fan of Southeast Montana. Plenty rural, better weather, beautiful country! Billings, Bridger Laurel area. Plenty to do. Great fishing and plenty of open land. Go east and south from there! Western south Dakota? he'd hate south dakota. nothing but flies and fleas out here. horrible cold cold weather year round and the hunting and fishing just sucks. all the pheasants were shot out years ago and the few mangy deer we have are small and hard to get tags for. Forget about politics, even our governor has plans to move way east in a few years. I wouldn't even bother wasting your time looking here......
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Montana is now the #1 destination for those escaping CA, OR and WA. They will bring their loony left politics w/them. Check out your Senator. Colleges there provide the commie seeds to infect the state.
And they have income tax and high other taxes.
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I'm a big fan of Southeast Montana. Plenty rural, better weather, beautiful country! Billings, Bridger Laurel area. Plenty to do. Great fishing and plenty of open land. Go east and south from there! Western south Dakota? he'd hate south dakota. nothing but flies and fleas out here. horrible cold cold weather year round and the hunting and fishing just sucks. all the pheasants were shot out years ago and the few mangy deer we have are small and hard to get tags for. Forget about politics, even our governor has plans to move way east in a few years. I wouldn't even bother wasting your time looking here...... Haha...sarcasm suits you.
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In all seriousness, Oklahoma is a solid red state, wonderful 2nd Amendment laws and is 96% privately owned so there will be lots of land to choose from. The SE is pine forests with gravel bottom rivers and the NW is the foothills of the Rockies. More miles of lake shoreline than the gulf of mexico and lots of hunting. Our tax burden is pretty low and there is a move on to lower it more. Give us a look.
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6 years ago someone sent me a link to a 42 acre plot in Tennessee. Told the wife I was interested in it. She about blew a gasket and said no way in hell would she ever move there. We were living in Colorado Springs at the time and both of us HATED it. I slowly worked on the wife telling her the advantages of retiring in TN. About 6 months later she agreed to fly over with me and inspect the land. Before we finished walking half the property we both decided to buy it. We had a 1,000 sq ft workshop built then a house. Trying to give you an idea of property taxes outside a city...................42 acres, custom brick home 2300 sq ft, 1 acre lake, 1,000 sq ft workshop...would estimate the value today at $450K for all of it. Our annual property tax bill is roughly $1300 a year. Our electricity costs from $85-150, usually higher in the summer due to AC. Natural gas runs $28-45. Water $30-45. We can access 75% of the population of the USA within a 1 days drive. Medical care is superb. UT one direction, Vanderbilt the other. Most neighbors are about as friendly as they can be and they dont get into your business.
No state income tax, but the big negative is sales tax which runs from 7.5 to 9.5%. In all fairness, if you dont make or spend a lot then you dont pay much in tax. Costs $29 a year to register any car or PU truck. No emission's testing or inspections required either. We do see snow a few times a year but its usually gone the next day. It can get hot in the summer but we live on the Cumberland Plateau so it helps cool us down a little.
We have no regrets about retiring here. Every new house that is being built within 5 miles of us belongs to people moving here from other states.
Get out and travel around. Everyone has their own idea of the "perfect place". One mans pleasure is another's poison.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
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Wow, you must have a slightly better county rate.
I write a check for right at $1800 a year in rural Montgomery Co.
And I think that’s too damn high.
License plates are $104 here.
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$55 for my off road sticker here on the Kawi What a deal !
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OSU_Sig: Oklahoma sounds great, but I'm a little confused by this statement:
"96% privately owned so there will be lots of land to choose from." - doesn't 96% privately owned land mean there's LITTLE to choose from when looking for a good hunting area?
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing -- Edmund Burke
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OSU_Sig: Oklahoma sounds great, but I'm a little confused by this statement:
"96% privately owned so there will be lots of land to choose from." - doesn't 96% privately owned land mean there's LITTLE to choose from when looking for a good hunting area? I was wondering the same thing. I don't know how I would live in a place like that.
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