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Company bragged loudly about making a billion in sales last year. Still setting new records. No bonuses or raises though. They say things are just too uncertain. They'll be telling you that for the next 40 years.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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Company bragged loudly about making a billion in sales last year. Still setting new records. No bonuses or raises though. They say things are just too uncertain. They'll be telling you that for the next 40 years. To be fair, you’re only entitled to the pay upon which you had agreed. Why would one believe they had more coming?
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No one thought they deserved it. Just gives you an example of the cheap aholes I work for and why so many of us want out. They find a way to avoid spending a dime on anything but bonuses for execs while we do the work. Pretty much how they operate.
Someone asked on a conference call about the 401k program and one of the higher ups said "we arent here to help your future, this is about us."
Lol you kidding me? That's the attitude the whole way thru all the upper management.
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No one thought they deserved it. Just gives you an example of the cheap aholes I work for and why so many of us want out. They find a way to avoid spending a dime on anything but bonuses for execs while we do the work. Pretty much how they operate.
Someone asked on a conference call about the 401k program and one of the higher ups said "we arent here to help your future, this is about us."
Lol you kidding me? That's the attitude the whole way thru all the upper management.
Sure sounds like a short sighted outlook for an employer to have. Likely good that you’re getting out. Now, with labor hard to find, many businesses will be forced to offer better. I’ve got a few employees. Great people that I truly value. I make sure they know that.
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You sound like a good guy to work for. I seem to have a knack for finding toxic bosses. Unless there are just that many out there.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Company bragged loudly about making a billion in sales last year. Still setting new records. No bonuses or raises though. They say things are just too uncertain. They'll be telling you that for the next 40 years. To be fair, you’re only entitled to the pay upon which you had agreed. Why would one believe they had more coming? Wasn't my point at all. No one thought they deserved it. Just gives you an example of the cheap aholes I work for and why so many of us want out. They find a way to avoid spending a dime on anything but bonuses for execs while we do the work. Pretty much how they operate.
Someone asked on a conference call about the 401k program and one of the higher ups said "we arent here to help your future, this is about us."
Lol you kidding me? That's the attitude the whole way thru all the upper management.
mjbgalt, the point I WAS trying to make was think in terms of mjbgalt, Inc. You've already discovered there is no loyalty in the DNA of American corporations. Yet, they spend countless hours trying to instill it in their employees. Why? Because they want you to feel guilty for putting yourself and your family's future first and seeking independence. Don't fall for it. ALWAYS put yourself and your family's future first. ALWAYS seek to be independent. If corp X isn't getting it done for you, corp Y is right down the street. Better yet, ALWAYS be thinking of how you can put together your own gig and put American corporations in your rearview.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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Told my friend the other day, I am a free agent who works for my family. Always open to going to the next job to better our situation.
I agree. No loyalty and No appreciation. While many companies were paying covid bonuses the one i work for was cutting every thing they could and raising prices and under cutting employee pay and benefits. They brag about being debt free and super successful. Well ok. Then how about paying new employees more than minimum? How about putting more than a max of 300 bucks a year in the 401k? How about ANY benefits other than so so health care?
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finding a job, let alone a career right now is difficult. If I had to do it again, and at this time, I would concentrate on being self employed.
Sam......
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Told my friend the other day, I am a free agent who works for my family. Always open to going to the next job to better our situation.
I agree. No loyalty and No appreciation. While many companies were paying covid bonuses the one i work for was cutting every thing they could and raising prices and under cutting employee pay and benefits. They brag about being debt free and super successful. Well ok. Then how about paying new employees more than minimum? How about putting more than a max of 300 bucks a year in the 401k? How about ANY benefits other than so so health care? You need to get TF out of there. Don't waste your life there. Get your own gig going.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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mjbgalt, the point I WAS trying to make was think in terms of mjbgalt, Inc.
You've already discovered there is no loyalty in the DNA of American corporations. Yet, they spend countless hours trying to instill it in their employees. Why? Because they want you to feel guilty for putting yourself and your family's future first and seeking independence.
Don't fall for it. ALWAYS put yourself and your family's future first. ALWAYS seek to be independent.
If corp X isn't getting it done for you, corp Y is right down the street.
Better yet, ALWAYS be thinking of how you can put together your own gig and put American corporations in your rearview.
Great post!
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Told my friend the other day, I am a free agent who works for my family. Always open to going to the next job to better our situation.
I agree. No loyalty and No appreciation. While many companies were paying covid bonuses the one i work for was cutting every thing they could and raising prices and under cutting employee pay and benefits. They brag about being debt free and super successful. Well ok. Then how about paying new employees more than minimum? How about putting more than a max of 300 bucks a year in the 401k? How about ANY benefits other than so so health care? f-uck that schit. you need to find something else. if i was 40 and in a schit job like that, i'd be looking at local municipalities, county, etc. pay ain't all that great but benefits make up for it.
My diploma is a DD214
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Minimum wage is irrelevant in this area. Starting wage is at least $2-5 higher than that for any job. Vacancies everywhere. Good time to be in the job market. The biggest competition for employers seems to be enhanced unemployment compensation. I think we need to stop that. Sad that so many employers shoot themselves in the foot by treating workers badly. It winds up costing them big money in the end.
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Nepotism is being nice to your relatives so they will hire you.
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Contact Discovery Channel about a Bigfoot hunting reality series. You never know. Maybe twerk some gun ideas during the show .
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It’s time to WAKE UP GOD BLESS THE USA WWG1WGA THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
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Nasty, bothersome things, jobs. Glad I don’t need one. If I did now, I’d consider driving a truck. Retail and food service management has to be the pits.
I know you want more money than it pays, but I’ve asked several Amazon delivery people about how they like their jobs. All of them were very happy. Around here, that’s probably a plum for those without a skill. Has to beat the Hell out of retail. I bet it’s costing UPS and Fedex dearly too. One guy was driving a nice crew-cab pickup. Said his shop had several of them.
What fresh Hell is this?
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Told my friend the other day, I am a free agent who works for my family. Always open to going to the next job to better our situation.
I agree. No loyalty and No appreciation. While many companies were paying covid bonuses the one i work for was cutting every thing they could and raising prices and under cutting employee pay and benefits. They brag about being debt free and super successful. Well ok. Then how about paying new employees more than minimum? How about putting more than a max of 300 bucks a year in the 401k? How about ANY benefits other than so so health care? f-uck that schit. you need to find something else. if i was 40 and in a schit job like that, i'd be looking at local municipalities, county, etc. pay ain't all that great but benefits make up for it. Maybe, but MANY are underfunded time bombs waiting to blow when you need them. I’d check on any that I was considering, and always have a backup or two. Some may undercut your SS as well. Fine print, Grasshopper!
What fresh Hell is this?
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No one thought they deserved it. Just gives you an example of the cheap aholes I work for and why so many of us want out. They find a way to avoid spending a dime on anything but bonuses for execs while we do the work. Pretty much how they operate.
Someone asked on a conference call about the 401k program and one of the higher ups said "we arent here to help your future, this is about us."
Lol you kidding me? That's the attitude the whole way thru all the upper management.
I find honesty refreshing. I’ve discovered that hanging around negative people will make you down on everything as well. It sounds like you work with a bunch of whiners. It’ll rub off on ya. An employee is a necessary evil for creating a profit. They are the single largest drain on just about any business. This isn’t what most folks want to hear, but that doesn’t make it amy less true. If your superiors act like they give a chit about you personally, you’ve been lied to.
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I thought about putting my larger boat into fishing charter...”Stripers for Seniors.” Just drive around a bunch of old guys and let em drink and smoke cigars and tell stories! They can always say we caught nothing as it’s not out of the realm of possibility. 4 hour booze cruise.
America, Our Country and we’re taking it back.
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I thought about putting my larger boat into fishing charter...”Stripers for Seniors.” Just drive around a bunch of old guys and let em drink and smoke cigars and tell stories! They can always say we caught nothing as it’s not out of the realm of possibility. 4 hour booze cruise. That sounds like a business that could be really popular.
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To be clear. I am management at the store level. So I don't make minimum and i don't have the issues that some other employees do. But to treat them like rented migrant farm workers is just wrong and i don't mind sticking up for them.
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