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Buy a 3/4 ton, they don’t have it.
This discussion sounds like when I was a kid and all the older guys talking about hating power windows and locks because they were sure to go out all the time.
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Buy a 3/4 ton, they don’t have it.
This discussion sounds like when I was a kid and all the older guys talking about hating power windows and locks because they were sure to go out all the time. A very good comparison to this tragic and life changing "issue" that eventually might affect every living sou on earth. Some people adapt and move on. Other people waste a big part of their lives trying to decide who all hates them the most because of this life changing 'issue" that they now have to cope with daily. 
It's official. I missed the selfie deadline so I'm Maser's sock puppet because rene and the Polish half of the fubar twins have decided that I am.
ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ μολὼν λαβέ
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Or everyone can just be complacent and accept whatever is offered. By the way, I hate power windows and power door locks too! GD
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No car or truck starts instantly.
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You haven't driven one, have you?
Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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No car or truck starts instantly. Bullshit...
"Chances Will Be Taken"
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No car or truck starts instantly. Bullshit... It's still an annoyance, and I do believe it'll cause extra wear and maintenance cost in the long run, but my wife's car starts quicker than anyone can move their right foot to the accelerator pedal. Including you...
"Chances Will Be Taken"
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Anything extra is nice but provides a source for problems to occur.
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If you've ever driven a golf cart it's not a hard concept to understand.
Does it work - YES
Do I care for it - NO
Can I turn it off and NGAF - YES.
Do I care if you know how to turn it off - NO
Is it Wednesday - YES
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My Honda Passport SUV has auto idle stop "feature" and I hate it. You do have to press the disable button every time you start the car. I have found a trick though, and verified it with a long piece of wire and a switch. If you start the car with the hood open, the computer thinks a maintenance tech is working on the vehicle so the idle stop is disabled AND the annoying light in the dash not illuminate. Some day when I have a little time I will design a circuit that will simulate this and wire it into the car. Then it will be solved permanently!
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I have a 2020 Honda that has that feature. It doesn't really bother me, but all things considered, it is an unnecessary complication. One thing I've noticed is that if I'm light on the brakes, it doesn't engage the engine stop when stopping. The other thing is that if you are running the air conditioning it will restart pretty quick (less than a minute or so) while you are still stopped. I guess the little Honda battery doesn't have enough juice to run the A/C very long. Seems like something that wasn't well though out and just put out there to satisfy a government bureaucrat.
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A gas engine Honda? The battery does not run the AC. It only runs the blower fan. After a minute or two with the engine stopped, the AC will start blowing hot air.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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If you've ever driven a golf cart it's not a hard concept to understand.
Does it work - YES
Do I care for it - NO
Can I turn it off and NGAF - YES.
Do I care if you know how to turn it off - NO
Is it Wednesday - YES
DoesBlackBart prefer cock? YES
FUGK CCP
It’s time to WAKE UP
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I don't think I'd care too much for a feature like that. Wouldn't that make it hard to do burnouts?
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I don't like having to pay extra for wheels because they have a tire inflation pressure goodie in them now.
I just want a plain ol' steel wheel for the winter treads on the RAV4,
Whaaaaa,
fuggin guys. Don't like the new features? Buy a reliable older vehicle. Or have Northern Dave or crittergitter restore one for you.
PS, I hate the damn backup camera, I like mirrors........................until I want to get really close without getting out and seeing how much more room I have and then backing up with the door open to check inches.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Look at it this way. You get an improved starter. The starter bearings and bendix drive are heavy duty on the start stop models. Exactly. And I just press the button and turn it off in my 20 Silverado
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It sucks !
If you see a dump truck sliding toward you on wet pavement at a stop light, between that and the traction control feature…You and family are dead !
You won’t stomp the gas to avoid it because you have to wait for the engine to crank then if your wheel spins on wet pavement it bogs the motor down.
You need to post a checklist on the dash to turn both off No you don't wait for the engine to crank. Its instantaneous
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No car or truck starts instantly. Wrong again
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Clearly, we have posters saying things about a system they have never driven, based on what they imagine it is like. And just as clearly, they are totally wrong.
If you don't like it, fine. I think the complaints are more hyperbole than fact, and that people would get used to it in time. Maybe even come to appreciate it, who knows? In the meantime, the system seems to have few if any faults, works exactly as advertised, is pretty much invisible to the driver, and has had no failures that anyone here has reported. (And if it ever did have a hiccup, there's that button to disable it.)
As far as rebelling against being told how to drive, just go the wrong way on the interstate next time. That'll show 'em.
Sheesh.
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Should be good for starter sales in a few years.
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