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God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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THC is no more different than coffee imho.
Booze wrecks havoc on business and family Ime.
I have met some good pot heads that are extremely successful. Good homes. Kids and family excelling in life.
Don’t put it on the weeds, man.😉
Some people just suck at life. And what they do or abuse regardless of the substance is an excuse for sucking.
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The mills are NOT going to add capacity that will stand idle any more than ammo makers. The normal size and demand of the market is pretty well established and it would be coconuts to turn on a bunch of shiny metal the week everything caves.
Never mind that prices on the stump (to get the wood to the mill) are pretty much flat. Nobody's offering more to the loggers and truckers and landowners, I know this first hand on one side and secondhand on the others.
As for jobs, the wood products industry in much of the West has been, and still is, under unrelenting assault, both political and legal, from the professional Green stopniks. Even if there's jobs, how long might they last? Nobody can answer that question with any clarity. I think that long-term risk is a big deal. Who wants to work in the restaurant business now, and what happens if there's another COVID thing? Who goes first? Why go into trucking with self-driving coming fast? Why work in a factory if there's robots being ordered?
COVID shattered the mold for a lot of business models. There's already crazy risk out there, so given the choice between taking risk, and taking profit, what would YOU do?
Up hills slow, Down hills fast Tonnage first and Safety last.
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Supply, and demand.
Inflation, "Too much money, chasing too few goods."
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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Timber company man told me they the company is making epic profits right now, he said they are buying at prices of 10 years ago. So the timber companies ( not the loggers) and retail sales are making a killing right now while the people trying to rebuild from the storms are paying the price.
Hearing the same.
Now with even more aplomb
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I've always been puzzled by the "we can't find employees " argument. You pay enough and you'll have applicants lined up around the block.
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I've always been puzzled by the "we can't find employees " argument. You pay enough and you'll have applicants lined up around the block. That should begin to improve. Unemployment has paid the equivalent of $40 per hour for over a year. Even ethical types have a hard time giving that up for half, or less. That may not sound like much money in some places, but it is in most of the places where things (like boards) are actually made.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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THC is no more different than coffee imho.
Booze wrecks havoc on business and family Ime.
I have met some good pot heads that are extremely successful. Good homes. Kids and family excelling in life.
Don’t put it on the weeds, man.😉
Some people just suck at life. And what they do or abuse regardless of the substance is an excuse for sucking.
Not putting it on the weed. I'm saying that companies won't hire if you piss dirty! And if you know your dirty, why bother putting in an application! Just dumb people wasting others time! And yes I know half the country smokes pot! I personally don't want to work construction type jobs with stoned or drunk people! Both have no place on the job while indulging in their crutch!
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I wouldn’t want to do that type of work with stoned people.
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I bet there's way more than half of construction trade workers dependent on alcohol or THC. If they cut loose after hours and show up for work on time and produce still , wgaf? Get a life if you are better than though .
FUGK CCP
It’s time to WAKE UP GOD BLESS THE USA WWG1WGA THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
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Supply and demand determines price.
"All that the South has ever desired was that the Union, as established by our forefathers, should be preserved, and that the government, as originally organized, should be administered in purity and truth." – Robert E. Lee
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I need to rebuild some of my fence, not going to pay what they want for pickets and stuff right now.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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I've always been puzzled by the "we can't find employees " argument. You pay enough and you'll have applicants lined up around the block. That should begin to improve. Unemployment has paid the equivalent of $40 per hour for over a year. Even ethical types have a hard time giving that up for half, or less. That may not sound like much money in some places, but it is in most of the places where things (like boards) are actually made. Yep. The Covid Scam kept folks at home by paying big unemployment benefits.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Anyone read the article?
The asshatfrom the logging council said, "Tariffs don't raise prices, supply and demand do."
WTF! I hate being played, lied to by some Mf'er who thinks I'm dumb enough to not smell the schitz he is spreading!
If tariffs don't raise prices, then why the hell does the Lumber Council support the tariffs. Ho-Li-Puck do statements like that frost my nuts. And the so called reporter is too stupid (or in the bag) to catch it?
The whole point is to raise Canadian prices so domestic producers can either raise prices or sell volume at already higher prices.
And yes, I actually would normally support tariffs on the subsidized dumping that hurts our producers. (Of anything)
But this deal here is the same type stuff as oil. Not to start that fight, but this issues is causing damage to a lot of our people. If imported lumber can stabilize prices and keep things moving, leave the tariffs low. Obviously, they aren't producing enough to change prices by supply. This only increases price directly, by adding cost.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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I see the 'attention ho' showed up and voiced its opinion.
Old Turd- Deplorable- Unrepentant Murderer- Domestic Violent Extremist
Just "Campfire Riffraff and Trash"
This will be my last post! Flave 1/3/21
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I bet there's way more than half of construction trade workers dependent on alcohol or THC. If they cut loose after hours and show up for work on time and produce still , wgaf? Get a life if you are better than though . Nobody except the THC will stay in the system, and employers don't know if you smoked on the way to work! Pretty simple, work where they don't test! Like gubberment jobs ect! I'm just the messenger! And I don't think I'm better than anyone! I also think your head is so far up your ass you need a windowectame! Been reading your mouthy posts, you seem like the kind of guy(girl) that needs lots of attention! Now go [bleep] yourself, little Bobby!
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I've always been puzzled by the "we can't find employees " argument. You pay enough and you'll have applicants lined up around the block. The Dems were smart when they continued the "enhanced unemployment". It puts all employers in the situation that you mentioned. Therefore, it's another way to raise the minimum wage. It also motivates employers to urge for more immigration. The mills in our area are long term survivors. If they pay more for new employees, they have to increase the wage scale for all employees. Then when the market turns, the new employees are laid off, with the employer paying unemployment benefits and they are yet left with the higher cost structure of having to pay more for their existing employees. So everyone sits tight.
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Not like in the old days when a boom meant good times all up and down the food chain.
Up hills slow, Down hills fast Tonnage first and Safety last.
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Anyone ever built something like a pole barn from rough cut green lumber? You might be able to get the lumber cut locally and cut out quite a bit of expense.
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some of the best workers I've had smoked weed every day.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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