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I know this is an elk forum and I'm not trying to highjack. I mostly hunt deer in coastal Carolina. They are small. I've killed deer with my 243 but don't like that it doesn't give me a blood trail. Before everyone chimes in on my "abilities", shot placement was never the issue. Center punch the lungs above the heart and the deer generally go 20-40yds (my experience with factory ammo). Coastal Carolina has some badass bush and without blood on the ground sometimes you almost have to trip over the animal to find it. I believe in complete pass through, 2 holes let in more air and let out more blood. I'm just getting going with reloading, what bullet will give me the blood trail I want? (I currently have 100gr boat tail Interlocks and 100gr partitions)
Again, not trying to highjack, this seems like the right "cast of characters" to answer the question. A Hornady Interlock tight behind the front leg will do all you ever need on any deer, or most else you may hunt. yeh right
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243 and elk should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
Only a moron does it.
If you can afford an elk license......you can afford an elk cartridge.
You 243ers are all stupid, beyond belief..... and deserve a head knocking.......badly!
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
Note to self: Never ask an old Fogey how he is doing today. Revised note to self: Keep it short when someone asks how I am doing.
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I’ll be sure and relay that to the multiple elk that will fall to a .243 this fall. I’ll show the kids this while their standing over their dead cow, they’ll get a good giggle out of it. 243 and elk should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
Only a moron does it.
If you can afford an elk license......you can afford an elk cartridge.
You 243ers are all stupid, beyond belief..... and deserve a head knocking.
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Only a remedial moron allows his kids to pursue elk with a 243......legal or not. Get a full-time job, sell Avon on the side, use coupons at the grocery store........and then go buy an elk rifle. I own 243’s.....and even a ratty ol’ 788 6mm. They work fine for prairie dogs, jackrabbits......right on up to the heavy stuff....coyotes. I’ll be sure and relay that to the multiple elk that will fall to a .243 this fall. I’ll show the kids this while their standing over their dead cow, they’ll get a good giggle out of it. 243 and elk should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
Only a moron does it.
If you can afford an elk license......you can afford an elk cartridge.
You 243ers are all stupid, beyond belief..... and deserve a head knocking.
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
Note to self: Never ask an old Fogey how he is doing today. Revised note to self: Keep it short when someone asks how I am doing.
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Mike, why don’t you get back to worrying about the record whitetail, and leave killing elk with a .243 to those who know how to get it done without drama.
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Only a remedial moron allows his kids to pursue elk with a 243......legal or not. Get a full-time job, sell Avon on the side, use coupons at the grocery store........and then go buy an elk rifle. I own 243’s.....and even a ratty ol’ 788 6mm. They work fine for prairie dogs, jackrabbits......right on up to the heavy stuff....coyotes. I’ll be sure and relay that to the multiple elk that will fall to a .243 this fall. I’ll show the kids this while their standing over their dead cow, they’ll get a good giggle out of it. 243 and elk should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
Only a moron does it.
If you can afford an elk license......you can afford an elk cartridge.
You 243ers are all stupid, beyond belief..... and deserve a head knocking. Says the guy who lives in a state where hunting big game with a rifle isn't even legal....TFF
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Oh... Rifles have been allowed during the late doe seasons....in some counties.......but don’t let any facts stand in your way. Certain straight-walled cartridges are also legal in rifles......State-wide.....both gun seasons. You must be a high school graduate.......from a public school.
Says the guy who lives in a state where hunting big game with a rifle isn't even legal....TFF
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
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I know a lady who shoots all her elk with a .243 Win. All monster bulls by the way. She is a rancher in good elk country and is one of those few who can pick her shots or hunt another day as Boddington keeps writing about. There was one epic failure that almost ended her husband existents when the shot placement or the bullet was bad. She knocked it down and all thinking it was dead her husband went up to the bull. The bull got up and charged her husband at close range. Luckily he was able to get a shot into its head before it could do the damage it was set on. No idea what caliber he used.
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In Iowa.....have legally taken many deer with .270, 30-06, .450BM. But, never a .243. TFF! LOL Says the guy who lives in a state where hunting big game with a rifle isn't even legal....TFF
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
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The short version is, you have a really small window of experience. Keep playing the fool, and we’ll continue laughing at you. In Iowa.....have legally taken many deer with .270, 30-06, .450BM. But, never a .243. TFF! LOL Says the guy who lives in a state where hunting big game with a rifle isn't even legal....TFF
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Oh... Rifles have been allowed during the late doe seasons....in some counties.......but don’t let any facts stand in your way. Certain straight-walled cartridges are also legal in rifles......State-wide.....both gun seasons. You must be a high school graduate.......from a public school.
Says the guy who lives in a state where hunting big game with a rifle isn't even legal....TFF
Maybe so, but I've killed more elk than you've ever seen.....TFF
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243 and elk should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
Only a moron does it.
If you can afford an elk license......you can afford an elk cartridge.
You 243ers are all stupid, beyond belief..... and deserve a head knocking.......badly! It's like you're in a contest with yourself to see if you can out-@zzhole previous posts.
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It would be silly to say that a .243 with proper bullets at responsible ranges can't get the job done. I wouldn't use it nor would I recommend it to anyone, however. Especially if I was a non-resident hunter that paid a lot of money for the privilege of hunting elk in another state.
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Anyone who thinks you can't kill an elk cleanly with a 243 and the right bullet (or a 22-250 for that matter), hasn't hung around old timers in Idaho, Montana or Alaska much.
I think it's funny when a guy from Iowa is telling scenarshooter how to hunt elk in Montana.
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Hah, yet you pretend to opine authoritatively about how it works on big game.
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Mike, I think it's good you know the limits of your ability, I don't think you should use the .243, for anything that you find to challenging, Bless Your Heart Rio7
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Mike is reminding me how powerful a closely held personal belief can be. I like to see how much I can learn rather than tell others what they should do, based on what I “know”. Have a great hunt season!
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243 and elk should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
Only a moron does it.
If you can afford an elk license......you can afford an elk cartridge.
You 243ers are all stupid, beyond belief..... and deserve a head knocking.......badly! It's like you're in a contest with yourself to see if you can out-@zzhole previous posts. Well, at least he's winning the contest.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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To all the “I choose to shoot elk with a 243” crowd.......
You all know you’re the Ned Beatty of the canoe group.
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
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And I’ve shot more head of big game than you could if you lived to be 250 years old. Land owner=many tags. And......all land purchased with hard earned monies.....no inherited land or funds. You’re special, scenarshooter.......just like everyone else. But, you’re not overly intelligent. How did the wringing out of that Leupold go? You're the man! TFF LOL Maybe so, but I've killed more elk than you've ever seen.....TFF
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
Note to self: Never ask an old Fogey how he is doing today. Revised note to self: Keep it short when someone asks how I am doing.
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