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Unfortunately they seem to pick the biggest bucket around.

All kidding aside, I have much respect for Messianic believers, as I do for all Christians.

Rick, I have never met a Messianic Jew, and have no idea what their denomination/belief consists of.

Economies of scale mean different things to diffent people, it seems.

If I may be so bold, let me elucidate a little for anybody who might be interested in knowing:

� The word religion is a combination of the prefix re-, meaning "back" or "again," and the Latin word ligare, meaning simply "tie" (it's the root of the words ligation, ligature, and ligament).

� The concept religion, as some evangelicals understand it, refers to Man's attempts to retie the bond between God and Man that Adam severed by disobeying Him.

The distinction is that religion is one thing, God's retying program is another � different.

The original texts of Galatians 1:6 and 1:7 make an interesting and useful distinction between two disparate meanings of the word another. Galatians 1:6 refers to "another gospel" of a different kind that Galatians 1:7 says "is not another" of the same kind. "Religions" are meant to be ways to God � Jesus's true Christianity is another way to God � designed and established by God, not a religion designed and established by Man.

I've only been to one passover with a Messianic group but it was neat to see what it consisted of and hear the significances explained. Basically they observe the old testament feasts and rituals. Beyond that, I would guess it differs with groups. I believe many groups are essentially practicing Jews who also accept Jesus as the Messiah. There was a history channel program about the increasing numbers in Israel. I find it interesting.

Ya'll remember HG and the tow truck thing in your prayers tonight. I will.

Neighbor , I wouldn't presume to speak for them all but I'd hazard a guess that at least one of them believes you are an azzhole !

That is Okay...I would not dream of telling anyone what thoughts to think, nor would I preach about my own.

I put nobody on Ignore for fear of being ignorant. Some folks are uncomfortable discussing or even hearing about religious topics but everyone needs a little preaching at from time to time. I think the good Lord intended it to be that way. If a fella is uncomfortable discussing or even seeing religious topics there's a reason for it...

"preaching"

I grew-up hearing my father preach, some times twice each Sunday morning.

For decades, I've heard a passel of other preachers preach.

I've studied how to preach, from both text books on the subject and transcripts of famous sermons.

I've preached many sermons in many churches of a number of denominations, for many years. I've often been applauded and complimented for my preaching and for my teaching, by church laymen and by esteemed colleagues in the clergy. (Can't remember ever being told that I was doing a poor job, not even any of those many times when I knew that I wasn't.) I don't even remember, off-hand, for example, how many kinds of Baptist churches that I've preached in.

I thought that I had a pretty good idea what preaching is �

� and what it isn't.

Apparently not.

I don't see how it's "preaching" to post a known fact or a considered conclusion � in an open thread that no one is forced to read and anyone can opt to ignore.

Is it "preaching" when you or I relate test results, personal experiences, or considered preferences about Chevy and Ford pick-ups � or gasoline and diesel engines � or personal impressions of Democrat and Republican philosophies, candidates, campaign tactics, etc? If not, then how is it "preaching" to relate personal discoveries or interpretations of faith in God?

I can see how it'd offend some if I forced them to listen as I plastered them with one kind of "you should believe" and "you must believe" after another. But I simply can not see how "I've found" and "I believe" is any kind of attempt to compel anybody else to comply.

My term for those Biblical things that make some folks uncomfortable is "diagnostic irritants." If "repent!" makes you uncomfortable, chances are that you need to repent.

Penny,

That will never happen here. I read your posts with delight. You have a way of conveying your belief without tearing down someone else's.

I Believe your words are sincere and your love for God is clear. Keep it up!


Mark

Well said Penny, I am very much the same way. I can well remember the time when I resisted all things religious, and I was wrong.

If someone has a thought, let's hear it....be it Christian, Catholic....... liberal or, conservative.

I skip over what doesn't interest me enough to get involved.........

The only restrictions on a forum should be for language and personal attacks.

Now, where are those dayum liberals?

nothing like a wee bit of religion to divide, damage and destroy.
Religion is personal, it should be kept that way.

I believe it's time for a bloody mary!!

I just spelled it the way God did. Take yer pick.

Is "Bloody Mary" an anti-Catholic term?