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The article says fully loaded 4WD with 250HP is $30K

It's the price point and MPG that'll make it or break it.

Otherwise everyone would be driving a 1 ton 4 door.

A GMC truck/Buick dealer last week offered me $25,000 for my 2015 Silverado LT Z71 extended cab. It has 90,000 miles on it.

I bought it in 2017 with 18,000 miles on the odometer and paid $29,000 for it.

He said they could easily sell it for $34-$36K. Huh?

They only had three new Sierra 1500s on the lot. The cheapest one was a $67K Denali Edition, the most expensive was almost $90K, a Harley Davidson Edition.

That sounds pretty damn reasonable to me.

So they admitted that they would make $10-12k on one used car deal?

And they wonder why nobody trusts used car salesmen.

I don't have a problem with that. They have to make money to stay in business, and they'll put some money into it prepping it for sale. Have you ever looked at a Kelly Blue Book or an NADA car value book? They have a "trade in value", and "commercial resale value". Those are usually 20-30% apart, depending upon the vehicle type.

I decided I didn't want to spend $67K on a new truck, even with $25K off for a trade in, which is why I didn't accept their offer. If I had it would have been easy to just go back to the dealer a couple days later and see what the pricing on my old truck was.

Do you think they're running a charity or something?

Hauling mulch, or a couple garbage cans to the dump in a vehicle that a 30 something can still use to commute to work and park more easily than a full size truck, while getting car mileage, would be the purpose that it serves.

cheaper than a bigger truck, a Ridgeline, or any new comparable offering from Subaru or Hyundai

I've seen too many repair videos on new Fords to never, ever own one. Over-complicated, under-designed, with catastrophic failure as the inevitable result of a broken $50 part.

You've never seen 'repair videos' on GM or Dodge??? LMAO... Try a search - you may be quite surprised. That encompasses ALL of them, period...

When I was in the car biz I worked most of my years at GM dealerships.. Trust me - the service departments were never lacking in work..

I know they aren't.

But I do know a bit about that business, and know enough to know that when a salesman sells a car with a $3500-4500 gross profit, that was called "Pulling someone's head off"... In other words, they really stuck it to the customer.

A loaded out Platinum 350 dually with all options doesn't have near $10k profit margin in it.

If you sell your pickup to dealer, and they make $12k profit, they are not only breaking it off in the customer, they are breaking it off in you as well.

I recommend you stay away from tractors and farm machinery.

Most failures are due to very low cost parts.

This market is unlike anything probably ever in the auto sales industry. Certainly in my lifetime. Used trucks accruing in value after four years? When has that happened before?

Good luck trying to get $25-$30K for a vehicle in a private sale. Most financing companies won't loan that much to someone for a private sale. So you have to find a buyer with 40% or more cash on hand, and they have to get a loan for the balance.

Dealers know this. Which is why they do what they do on late model trade ins.

Yep.

With this new Maverick "truck" being front wheel drive, no standard size cab and the 4 wheel drive option really just AWD with no low range, to me it's basically just a compact 4 dr SUV with the cargo area cut down to a light hauler bed .

I give it 5 years tops and production will likely be phased.


As always, YMMV...

Maybe the Subaru Baja needs to come back

If WE were a cross section of the entire market, its demise might be easy to predict, but we are not. Who knows.

That wouldn't be my first choice for a vehicle but if I had to choose between it and one of the ubiquitous BUTT-ugly crossovers, I'd buy the Maverick every time. Crossovers are loathsome vehicles.

Do you mean Brat? Or was there a Baja too?

Although it's rated for it I suspect traction when towing could be a bit on the dicey side at times like on wet pavement, loose gravel, sharper uphill grades, etc., with the tongue weight on the rear and the drive wheels on the front.

The Baja was basically a 4dr Subaru station wagon with the cargo area made into a short truck bed like the new Ford Maverick is.