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Yes like Lorenzo de Zavala, Juan Seguin, and Jose Antonio Navarro!!! All founding Fathers of Texas!!!

When did good men quit looking at the "other side" - and saying "You LOST!" ???

Figures Commie Socialist Libertard DemoRat’s.

Take note of her lawyer!!!

Celia Allen
Celia Allen, an enslaved woman at San Felipe de Austin, assisted business partners Laughlin McLaughlin and John M. Allen at their outdoor brick bake oven. McLaughlin oversaw the duties of the brick oven serving as baker, and Celia assisted him in baking items such as pilot bread (or hardtack), wheat bread, corn bread and cakes.

In 1832, McLaughlin and Allen ended their business partnership over Allen’s desire to manumit, or free, Celia. In that year, Allen signed an act of manumission for Celia and her children before Alcalde Horatio Chriesman. McLaughlin refused to recognize the manumission and in 1833, Celia retained San Felipe resident lawyer William Barret Travis to defend her. After legally winning her freedom, Celia and her children — Ann, George and Sam — took the last name Allen.

In 1836, as the Texans retreated from San Felipe ahead of the advancing Mexican Army, Mexican soldiers took control of the brick bake oven, placing their cannons behind it and punching holes to make openings, or embrasures, for their cannons. Mexican soldiers fired at the Texans on the opposite side of the Brazos River while Santa Anna debated options to cross the river. According to family lore, Celia and her children met Santa Anna during the Mexican occupation of San Felipe.

Celia Allen died in 1842 and is buried in the old cemetery at San Felipe de Austin.

If you did not want Mexicans to take over, why did you let them in?

Bob, are they’re Historic Markers or any historical structures left of San Felipe de Austin ? I’ve never been there.

Funny you should ask Neal!

Ok San Felipe was burned to the ground during the runaway scrape.

But as of late the Texas Historical Commission has dumped a buttload of money into the place. In 2018 they opened a new museum there and this September they will have the grand opening of the newly reconstructed city block as it was before the conflagration. There will be the Farmer Hotel and restaurant complete with bricked basement ( as mention in the de la Peña diary of his visit there in 1834). The school, printers shop, courthouse, and several small homes. All built out of locally available lumber and such. Celia’s brick oven is there too!

This recreation is just away from the original townsite by a few 100 yds or so.

Those Mexicans were just as bad as the Indians. Turn your back on them and the next thing you know they try to steal your land.

Thanks! I’ll have to check it out sometime.

They also have put in a saw pit. But I’m staying the hell away from that death trap!!!

LOL

If you can't defend your land you lose it, Mexico revisionists.

"War between the United States and Mexico over the annexation of Texas seemed imminent, and in the spring of 1845 Frémont headed a third expedition west, ostensively to explore the Great Basin and Pacific coast but also with secret instructions for action in case of war. Upon his arrival in southern California at the end of the year, he and his armed party defied Mexican authorities before backing down and heading north into southern Oregon. He and his group soon returned south (early May 1846) after he received a dispatch (the contents of which are still unknown) from a confidential messenger from Washington, D.C. Back in California, Frémont threw his support behind a small group of dissident American settlers near Sonoma who had started an unofficial uprising and had established the short-lived Bear Flag Republic. News of the U.S. declaration of war with Mexico soon reached California, and Frémont was appointed by Commodore Robert F. Stockton as major of a battalion there that consisted mostly of American volunteers. Frémont and Stockton completed the conquest of the future 31st state.

Meanwhile, General Stephen Watts Kearny entered California from the southeast with orders to establish a government. This led to a conflict of authority in which Frémont involved himself after accepting California’s capitulation from Mexican officials at Cahuenga Pass, near Los Angeles. Stockton had appointed Frémont military governor of California, but Kearny would not recognize the appointment. Frémont nonetheless served as governor for two months, at which time Kearny had him arrested after having received confirmation of his own authority. Frémont was returned to Washington, D.C., and, in 1847–48, court-martialed for mutiny, disobedience, and conduct prejudicial to military discipline. He was sentenced to dismissal from the army. Although his penalty was set aside by President James K. Polk, Frémont, bitter about the ordeal, resigned from the army. Through it all he retained the high regard of the general public."

Huh uh. Bryan Burrough was born in Temple, Texas, and raised there. Although I do not know Bryan, I've known his father, John "Mac" Burrough since 1955 when we were in the same fraternity at the Univ. of Arkansas. "Mac" and my brother are best of friends to this day. My brother and his wife were invited to Bryan's wedding in Chicago years ago and attended. I've known his mother since after Bryan's father and mother were married after "Mac" was discharged from the Army as a Capt. They have lived in Temple, Texas, since before Bryan was born where "Mac" became president of a couple of banks there.

Bryan has had a successful career as a journalist and has written several successful books which were made into movies, Barbarians At The Gate, Public Enemies, and Wall Street.

I know that Bryan's father,"Mac," is not a liberal. Don't know what happened to Bryan. Maybe he just fell in with "bad company" back East.

L.W.

Interesting LW !

I am with you.

BS!!!

fremont, by the way, has a house in prescott, az., now at a museum.

So many falsehoods it’s hard to know where to begin.

No, the Alamo defenders weren’t Saints, yes, many probably died fighting outside the walls while trying to escape. A handful probably surrendered at the very end when offered clemency by a merciful and well-meaning Mexican officer who was outraged by Santa Anna’s summary execution of these men.

Yes, as is true of most every war, both sides were backed by powerful financial interests.

Santa Anna butchered far more of his own people than he ever did Texians, when he tried to apply that same tyranny to Texas he got whupped.

When the famous Travis letter was on display at the Alamo some years back I saw Texans of all skin colors bringing their kids, lined up hours to see it (I was shocked, I was expecting just the Gettysburg Old White guy crowd).

This book of course is part of the ongoing attempt to divide and conquer the US.

It is my belief, and I can safely say Birdy is of the same opinion, that after interacting as a living history interpreter with ALL races and ethnic groups at a number of historic sights, these people are ALL equally interested in the story that we are there to tell.

Regardless of who won or lost. Lived or died.

Have to agree with Bird and others on that revisionist tale as a total farce. Sure some Texans did have slaves as did everyone in the south.

Anyway Texas was populated by people of all colors and Tejanos were among those that fought for independence. Sure Texas and America in general have a checkered past but if you want to really see some bad stuff study European History. Politics should be kept out of History.

I have spent a lot of time at the San Felipe de Austin site. There is a little truck stop, Park Place Travel Plaza right there on I 10 and I spent the night there many times. I used to walk over to the historical site. Of course the original was burned by the Mexicans during the war but the re creation is fascinating, especially since I am a log cabin builder. The idea that Austin was walking those streets, and this town was the original capitol of Texas.
Also, I believe that the famous letter from Travis was sent to this town.