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gun broker feedback question #16185679 06/20/21
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I bought a muzzle loader and when it arrived both sights were broken.I emailed the seller twice before he answered.He said it must have been broken in shipping ---DUH--- and replacement sights are cheap.It was shipped in one of those foam sleeves in a box with no other packing.The seller seems pretty un-concerned about my feedback--he said just do what you think is right.What do you all think he deserves?

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Re: gun broker feedback question [Re: savage2400] #16185817 06/20/21
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I have never used Gunbroker and no plans to start,few times i visited their site i don't like it.

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I’d give him a low rating with a good explanation. Sounds like it was not packed well. That’s on him.


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Tell it just like you did here.

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Originally Posted by dale06
I’d give him a low rating with a good explanation. Sounds like it was not packed well. That’s on him.


That, he is chickencshit for not making it good

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Originally Posted by savage2400
Replacement sights are cheap.


Since they are so cheap he shouldn't mind buying them to make it right. Cheap is relative. It is cheap to him if he is using your money. Might not be as cheap if he has to pay for them.

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Send it back.


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no I'll keep it but thanks for the replies---I didnt want to shaft the guy if he didn't deserve it and yes the packing was sub standard--flimsy neoprene sleeves with nothing else in the box is stupid

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I don’t know what it is about ‘gun people’ selling items and shipping via these parcel services.

Would think that ‘gun people’ had more common sense about the pitfalls of packages.


My daughter bought a guitar from a fellow teenage girl 3 states away last week. That girl was able to pack it and box in a plain cardboard box and it made it perfectly. Well packed and cushioned, no dead space.

Based off reading what happens often as reported here, I expected that git-tar to be in several pieces. Nope, it wasn’t.


So apparently the 70 year old fatfouck Gunswizards can’t handle such mundane tasks.

It’s like “Are you a high school dropout between the ages of 14 and 84? Then become a gunsmith or gunshop pro” Special classes for slow learners. lol

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Was it shipped in the factory packaging or was it the seller's packaging?

If the former it mitigates the seller's negligence but in either case he is still responsible to file a claim with the shipper and if he won't do that then he is absolutely failing you.

If he won't make it right or even lift a finger to make it right, then you should say that honestly in the feedback - "the sights were broken in shipping and the seller isn't lifting a finger to file a claim with the shipper, which is his duty." You only have something like 240 characters to say it so choose the words efficiently.

Don't even mention the packaging, that just introduces a point he can argue about. Sights were broken in shipping, seller has to file the claim, not the buyer, seller won't do it. End of story.

Whatever feedback you give, expect to get something equal in return. If that is the factory packaging expect to get bad feedback that the buyer is blaming the seller for something not under his control. The gunbroker feedback system sucks but so do most feedback systems - that's due to the nature of limited communication before a public audience. Basically it holds each person hostage to the other for poor feedback and whoever posts it first loses.

Sounds to me like you're not going to get new sights through any channels gunbroker offers, so here are two possible courses of action.

1. Buy new sights, forgive him and accept any karmic reward the universe offers you

2. Buy new sights and dox him here. Publish his business (not personal) name, address and phone number. There are plenty of folks here who would get a big kick out of letting him know they'll never deal with him due to the poor way he's treated you and at least as many who would harass him just for the fun of harassing someone. Let karma figure out what it wants to do.



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Jim thanks --I like option #1

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Savage2400: I have never personally used "gunbreaker" and never plan to start!
I have WAY to many friends, acquaintances and gun trading buddies who have WAY to many "horror" stories regarding all manner of troubles when dealing through "gunbreaker"!
I have bought over a dozen guns off of this site but take extra caution when doing so.
I much prefer to buy my guns F.T.F. at gunshows, gunshops, chain sporting goods stores and from friends - and have been doing so for the last half century plus now (57 years to be exact!).
Still waiting for "my" first surprise from such transactions!
Sorry for your unhappiness but it is just another in an incredibly long line of gunbreaker disappointments.
Live and learn is certainly apropos in this instance.
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Buying sight unseen online is a crap shoot...
Especially Auction type sites.

Have bought 1 gun online.

My Savage 220 from grab a gun.
I would be willing to buy from other major websites for certain guns.

But sites like gunbroker are iffy.
Always hearing stories on here.

Have done several buys off TN armslist FTF.
Most recent one yesterday.

If they post a Ph # at least you can call and get some sort of "feel" from the person.
Always do deals in a public area.


Alot of it is not being aloof as f u c k to scams when reading ads also.


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Seller clearly acknowledged sights were damaged in shipping, so it's 100% on him.

Get Gunbroker involved. Find out price of equivalent sights and ask Gunbroker to 1) refund you the amount replacement sights would cost, 2) refund your the price of the sight (and subsequently reduce the amount paid to seller) or 3) have Gunbroker cover return shipping (which reputable sellers do as part of their contract with GB). Although not GB, I had similar with crossbow purchase on eBay and got them involved; matter resolved in week and eBay actually refunded me $169 (of a $450 purchase) because seller acknowledged issue with scope (similar to your guy admitting poor packaging).

Unethical sellers need to get stung HARD financially, else they continue their crappy practices and give GB a bad name.

Full disclosure: I've bought several firearms using Gunbroker and have had zero issues with sellers or items received.

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Originally Posted by dale06
I’d give him a low rating with a good explanation. Sounds like it was not packed well. That’s on him.

This

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He's willing to pay for a lesson on poor packing by taking a poor rating. So don't let him down.

I ship guns in a hard plastic case when I sell on there. I state so in the description.


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If he’s not willing to make it right he’s asking for a poor rating.

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He was asking for a problem when he didn't pack the rifle correctly and when he refused to take responsibility for the damage the rifle received in shipment. Give it to him.

I've only had one transaction that involved a damaged rifle. The dealer that shipped it, packed it very well, but the shipper evidently ran a truck over the box and broke the stock at the grip. The dealer could not have handled the situation better. He gave me several choices on how we would handle the broken stock and let me pick. The option I ended up taking was he gave me a generous refund on part of the purchase price and let me get it fixed. He would have taken it back and given me a full refund If I had chosen that option. There are good dealers out there and from what I've heard, and seen first hand, most are good to deal with.


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It aggravates the snot out of me. Even some auction companies who regularly ship firearms will send a gun poorly packed. They think insurance will cover it. Not necessarily. How does insurance replace a gun part which is out of production? I have a cautionary statement which is attached to every invoice regarding packaging.

I recently sent back an H&K 770 from a GB pawn broker- broken butt stock. Entire refund of $740 was due. How did it make sense to scrimp on packaging?


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