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Psycho killer gets a 911 call going, then ambushes the first copper who shows up. Citizen sees this, pulls his pistol and shoots the psycho killer. For his trouble the next cops to show up shoot him:

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/ne...-was-shot-by-police-according-to-sources

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/06/23/john-hurley-arvada-shooting-olde-town-hero/

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Yep, trying to be the hero can come at a grave cost..


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Arvada police are actively protecting Autumn Scardina, the transgender freak attorney who has made it his/her/its life's mission to go after Jack Phillips of Masterpiece Cakeshop. Hard for me to feel anything for the cop in this case.


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We've got constitutional carry going into effect July 1st here in TN. If everybody starts carrying a pistol the cops won't know whether to $hit or go blind.


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Originally Posted by Jiveturkey
We've got constitutional carry going into effect July 1st here in TN. If everybody starts carrying a pistol the cops won't know whether to $hit or go blind.

I hope that there's a lot of good folks carrying both openly and concealed. If it's common practice, the criminals will move onto easier thieving. The police will either love it or hate it. That's what it was like after our state did that, although I wish more used that right.

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I guess we dont know what happened yet, but it doesnt sound good.

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Yep, the coppers aren’t releasing any information. All we really know is that there was no taxpayer funded procession of cops and first responders from all around to honor the dead citizen, the man who actually walked out into the fire and killed the perpetrator. The procession will be repeated on an exponentially bigger scale for the officer’s funeral. The citizen’s funeral will have a small procession paid for by his family.

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Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Arvada police are actively protecting Autumn Scardina, the transgender freak attorney who has made it his/her/its life's mission to go after Jack Phillips of Masterpiece Cakeshop. Hard for me to feel anything for the cop in this case.


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Yep, trying to be the hero can come at a grave cost..
Somebody who kills the bad guy, whether they are a cop or a citizen isn't necessarily "trying to be the hero". They may just be stopping a crime. In the past it wasn't seen as grandstanding for a regular person to do this. It was in fact, seen as doing one's duty. This especially in light of the court's saying a cop has no duty to protect life. What if the bad guy had went on to kill more innocents...more cops? Evidently this person gave his life in order to save others. I personally don't care if he was trying to be a hero or was just stopping the slaughter of innocents.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
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Yep, trying to be the hero can come at a grave cost..
Somebody who kills the bad guy, whether they are a cop or a citizen isn't necessarily "trying to be the hero". They may just be stopping a crime. In the past it wasn't seen as grandstanding for a regular person to do this. It was in fact, seen as doing one's duty. This especially in light of the court's saying a cop has no duty to protect life. What if the bad guy had went on to kill more innocents...more cops? Evidently this person gave his life in order to save others. I personally don't care if he was trying to be a hero or was just stopping the slaughter of innocents.


Most people never have a chance to be a "hero". When that opportunity (?) presents itself, heroes will step up and lessors will stand down.

Not all heroes survive.


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Ethan, you are so right. It is sad that all the accolades for the heroism are bestowed on the policeman while nothing is being reported about the ordinary (actually extraordinary!) citizen who acted heroically.

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If you don't go into a life threatening situation without the willingness to possibly not make it through, you should not get involved.
This is what separates heroes from everyone else.


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There was a lot of information about the civilian that was shot after shooting the bad guy on the morning news in Colorado Springs this morning. Interviews with some friends and co workers. Sounds like a good guy in many ways. His friends were not surprised that he acted and risked it all. I will try to attend whatever service they have for him.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Yep, trying to be the hero can come at a grave cost..
Somebody who kills the bad guy, whether they are a cop or a citizen isn't necessarily "trying to be the hero". They may just be stopping a crime. In the past it wasn't seen as grandstanding for a regular person to do this. It was in fact, seen as doing one's duty. This especially in light of the court's saying a cop has no duty to protect life. What if the bad guy had went on to kill more innocents...more cops? Evidently this person gave his life in order to save others. I personally don't care if he was trying to be a hero or was just stopping the slaughter of innocents.


Most people never have a chance to be a "hero". When that opportunity (?) presents itself, heroes will step up and lessors will stand down.

Not all heroes survive.



Well said lt. No one lives forever.


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Originally Posted by Jiveturkey
We've got constitutional carry going into effect July 1st here in TN. If everybody starts carrying a pistol the cops won't know whether to $hit or go blind.



Then I reckon maybe they better follow the rule of being in fear for their lives before they use deadly force.


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Tough to say without knowing the details but I do know if I were in that situation I would disarm myself as soon as it was safe to do so.Maybe this guy didnt have the chance to do so...


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Yep, trying to be the hero can come at a grave cost..
Somebody who kills the bad guy, whether they are a cop or a citizen isn't necessarily "trying to be the hero". They may just be stopping a crime. In the past it wasn't seen as grandstanding for a regular person to do this. It was in fact, seen as doing one's duty. This especially in light of the court's saying a cop has no duty to protect life. What if the bad guy had went on to kill more innocents...more cops? Evidently this person gave his life in order to save others. I personally don't care if he was trying to be a hero or was just stopping the slaughter of innocents.


Most people never have a chance to be a "hero". When that opportunity (?) presents itself, heroes will step up and lessors will stand down.

Not all heroes survive.



Exactly right.


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Originally Posted by riverdog
Ethan, you are so right. It is sad that all the accolades for the heroism are bestowed on the policeman while nothing is being reported about the ordinary (actually extraordinary!) citizen who acted heroically. The coppers and the city government are no doubt working on minimizing their liability for killing this great citizen.


From the article....

"Arvada Police Chief Link Strate said in a news conference Tuesday that Hurley was “a true hero who likely disrupted what could have been a larger loss of life,”

It seems the Police Chief was giving "accolades for heroism" to this citizen rather immediately.


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God bless him for what he did, but he was black,, the fires would have already started.


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