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Are .30-06 factory loads lower pressure since it is chambered in a lot of older rifles? Can handloads be "warmer" in modern rifles? Of course not to exceed book numbers.......


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They probably are at least to some degree. It just occurred to me that I don't think I have ever fired a factory loaded 30-06 except some M2 ball.


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I’ve never fired a factory load in any of mine. I load 59 grains of IMR 4350, the book max with a 150 Partition.

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Originally Posted by Sakoluvr
Are .30-06 factory loads lower pressure since it is chambered in a lot of older rifles? Can handloads be "warmer" in modern rifles? Of course not to exceed book numbers.......


Generally most (not all) factory 30-06 loads will give 308 Win type velocities. If yours is a modern commercial bolt action it can be loaded hotter than typical factory loads.




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I rarely shoot factory loads in anything...but that damn Federal Blue Box is plenty good enough for me...underloaded or not. .308 and .30-06. Accurate as hell, good bullets, good brass..my chrono velocity numbers are very close to their advertised velocity, I would consider it for an expensive hunt...if it is underloaded I don't see where it would spell failure on a real hunt.


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Over the years I chorno'd ammo for friends who had 06s.

WW & Fed were fairly close to ad. vel.

Without Exception, Remington factory loads were ALWAYS slower.


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Yes. Its underloaded by 100 fps. Always has been

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Originally Posted by jwall
Over the years I chorno'd ammo for friends who had 06s.

WW & Fed were fairly close to ad. vel.

Without Exception, Remington factory loads were ALWAYS slower.


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We chrono'd some 130 gr. Rem. core-lokt .270's last year. Average velocity was 2796 fps. With an extreme spread of 184 fps. for 5 shots.

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
I rarely shoot factory loads in anything...but that damn Federal Blue Box is plenty good enough for me...underloaded or not. .308 and .30-06. Accurate as hell, good bullets, good brass..my chrono velocity numbers are very close to their advertised velocity, I would consider it for an expensive hunt...if it is underloaded I don't see where it would spell failure on a real hunt.
I've been shooting 150 gr. Fusions in mine. They chrono as advertised and give sub MOA accuracy out of my 22" barreled M77 Hawkeye.

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I chronographed some 180 grain TTSX Vortex in my 35 Whelen with a claimed velocity of 2900, they clocked 2900 FPS
Also clocked some 200 grain Hornaday Superformance and the claimed 2910 FPS I clocked 3026 FPS
35 Whelen is an 1885 Highwal 28" barrel

Also some 289 Rem Vortex 140 TTSX in my 280 and clocked 3026 FPS. 280 is a Baretta Mato 24" barrel



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[quote=Blackheart][quote=jwall]Over the years I chorno'd ammo for friends who had 06s.

WW & Fed were fairly close to ad. vel.

Without Exception, Remington factory loads were ALWAYS slower.
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We chrono'd some 130 gr. Rem. core-lokt .270's last year. Average velocity was 2796 fps. With an extreme spread of 184 fps. for 5 shots.
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YEP.... 2800 and Advertised at What ?


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Just finished trying out Norma's new factory 'Van Damme Movie' round, aka the 180 gr. Bondstrike Extreme. It's POI is the same as my 57 gr. H4350 handload.

Just for S&G I might use it on cow elk this season...


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SAAMI MAP for .30’06 is 60k Psi , same as .280 Rem .
Seems anemic when compared to ..270 Win with MAP at 65k Psi

Maybe new Remington loads will be closer to spec ?


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Originally Posted by 338Rules
SAAMI MAP for .30’06 is 60k Psi , same as .280 Rem .
Seems anemic when compared to ..270 Win MAP at 65k Psi

Maybe new Remington loads will be closer to spec ?


And the 280 was always downloaded due to being a semi automatic load

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The 7mm Express was supposed to fix that in sturdy bolt actions, but of course it didn’t / couldn’t


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Check out the loads for a 280 in the Nosler manual #4, impressive!

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Originally Posted by keith
Check out the loads for a 280 in the Nosler manual #4, impressive!


Loaded to 270 pressure the 280 moves out



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Originally Posted by Sakoluvr
Are .30-06 factory loads lower pressure since it is chambered in a lot of older rifles? Can handloads be "warmer" in modern rifles? Of course not to exceed book numbers.......

60k PSI... is.

You can handload'em to 65k, same as the factory .270 Win., but the game won't taste any different.




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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Check out the loads for a 280 in the Nosler manual #4, impressive!


Loaded to 270 pressure the 280 moves out


Anyone Know what pressure the Nosler loads in #4 are at ?

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Originally Posted by 338Rules
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Check out the loads for a 280 in the Nosler manual #4, impressive!


Loaded to 270 pressure the 280 moves out


Anyone Know what pressure the Nosler loads in #4 are at ?


For 140 grain bullets in the 280 use 270 130 grain data inorder to reach 270 pressure






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