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Well - as someone who's driving and someone blows a stop sign, I locked up my brakes and for the split second was thinking I was going to kill someone. Not a great feeling. I don't know if you've ever been responsible for someone losing their life, even not directly, but I have and it's an uber [bleep] feeling. One I don't need again because some idiot in a unitard wants to be "legal on the road same as cars" but unwilling to follow the same rules.
People in cars make mistakes too but I've yet to see a motorist run EVERY red light/stop sign they come across like cyclists do. It's not a "mistake" it's willful disregard followed by indignation at the guy doing it the right way when they're almost wiped out.
How would stopping for the stop sign affect you as a cyclist?
Yes why can't the bicyclists stop for the damned stop signs? Would you just walk out in front of a moving car?
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We have a group of bicyclist in our small town that think they own the road and spread from the white to the yellow line. I will be glad when someone accidentally hits one of them because they sure cause traffic issues. Nothing quite as agonizing is those big small town traffic issues. Weaponizing a motor vehicle can get an idiot shot. Maybe so but creating road rage incidents can get a bicyclist run over.
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I hear the sound of paranoia by the OP.
Now i must wonder why. Are motorists just crazy or could there be a reason for paranoia, such as guilt or fear of Karma?
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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Well - as someone who's driving and someone blows a stop sign, I locked up my brakes and for the split second was thinking I was going to kill someone. Not a great feeling. I don't know if you've ever been responsible for someone losing their life, even not directly, but I have and it's an uber [bleep] feeling. One I don't need again because some idiot in a unitard wants to be "legal on the road same as cars" but unwilling to follow the same rules.
People in cars make mistakes too but I've yet to see a motorist run EVERY red light/stop sign they come across like cyclists do. It's not a "mistake" it's willful disregard followed by indignation at the guy doing it the right way when they're almost wiped out.
How would stopping for the stop sign affect you as a cyclist?
Yes why can't the bicyclists stop for the damned stop signs? Would you just walk out in front of a moving car? I hear that "cyclists blow through" stop signs all the time in these discussions. I drive between 25,000 and 40,000 miles a year in all kinds of traffic situations. I have never witnessed a cyclist "blow through" an intersection without looking. I have never had to brake for one failing to yield right of way and have never witnessed anyone else have to. Accident data isn't great, but what we have tells us that it's not common that cyclist are hit while "blowing through" stop signs or stop lights. The bottom line is that it doesn't happen often. Even with the subset of the cycling population that doesn't qualify for a driver's license. On the very rare occasions cyclists are hit when they fail to yield right of way, it rarely injures the other party. Running stop signs and traffic lights is a very common cause of serious motor vehicle crashes. Save your indignation for something that fugging matters.
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In our small town there are places they there are bike trails and the bikes still ride two abreast down the road.I wonder why if they ride on the roads why not plate them and let them help with the road costs.
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We have a group of bicyclist in our small town that think they own the road and spread from the white to the yellow line. I will be glad when someone accidentally hits one of them because they sure cause traffic issues. Nothing quite as agonizing is those big small town traffic issues. Weaponizing a motor vehicle can get an idiot shot. Maybe so but creating road rage incidents can get a bicyclist run over. Running over cyclists can get motorists shot. See the OP. I know it's fun to invoke the rule of gross tonnage and use it it bully, but some cyclists are prepared to get real on a bully.
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In our small town there are places they there are bike trails and the bikes still ride two abreast down the road.I wonder why if they ride on the roads why not plate them and let them help with the road costs. Can you tell me how your municipal, county/borough, state and federal roadways are funded? While you are advocating for more government, why not advocate that pedestrians who walk on the road have plates too?
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Good shoot by the Mexican. I had a smallish seat bag I carried a Security Six in while riding. It barely fit and woulda been a pain to retrieve quickly, but still....
There is a road near the house that I routinely travel. Horrible road to cycle on. Low visibility with tight turns, rises and dips, vegetation, absolutely no shoulder. Every once in a while there’ll be some douchebag or three riding on it. One of them gonna get splatted sooner or later. Just hope it ain’t me driving when it happens. That’d ruin my day.
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Good shoot by the Mexican. I had a smallish seat bag I carried a Security Six in while riding. It barely fit and woulda been a pain to retrieve quickly, but still....
There is a road near the house that I routinely travel. Horrible road to cycle on. Low visibility with tight turns, rises and dips, vegetation, absolutely no shoulder. Every once in a while there’ll be some douchebag or three riding on it. One of them gonna get splatted sooner or later. Just hope it ain’t me driving when it happens. That’d ruin my day.
You always have the option of not outdriving your line of sight!
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Nah. Some roads are simply a bad idea to cycle on.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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Nah. Some roads are simply a bad idea to cycle on. I can only hope it's not a tractor (or other SMV) or a stalled car you carelessly slam into.
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Me too. Like I said, it’d ruin my day.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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Damn cyclists anyways, SOB needs to get to the range! The asswhole is gonna live.
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In our small town there are places they there are bike trails and the bikes still ride two abreast down the road.I wonder why if they ride on the roads why not plate them and let them help with the road costs. Can you tell me how your municipal, county/borough, state and federal roadways are funded? While you are advocating for more government, why not advocate that pedestrians who walk on the road have plates too? Pedestrians do not have the legal right to walk in the travel portion of the highway and impede traffic but I would be ok with a state permit for use of a public road for whatever purpose. On another note, it may just be my mistaken perception but adult male bicycle riders seem to have sugar in their gas.
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In our small town there are places they there are bike trails and the bikes still ride two abreast down the road.I wonder why if they ride on the roads why not plate them and let them help with the road costs. Can you tell me how your municipal, county/borough, state and federal roadways are funded? While you are advocating for more government, why not advocate that pedestrians who walk on the road have plates too? Pedestrians do not have the legal right to walk in the travel portion of the highway and impede traffic but I would be ok with a state permit for use of a public road for whatever purpose. On another note, it may just be my mistaken perception but adult male bicycle riders seem to have sugar in their gas. MORE GOVERNMENT NOW!
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Me too. Like I said, it’d ruin my day. When I have the option of not ruining my own day, I exercise that option.
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I've never understood the entitled attitude of cyclists.
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I've never understood the entitled attitude of cyclists. And motorists don't have that sense of entitlement?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Me too. Like I said, it’d ruin my day. When I have the option of not ruining my own day, I exercise that option. So you don’t ride on low visibility roads with no shoulder? Good on ya. Schit happens, buddy. Everyday.
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I've never understood the entitled attitude of cyclists. And motorists don't have that sense of entitlement? After all those roads were developed for motorized vehicles. Maybe a minimum speed limit would help.Kind of hard to maintain 45 MPH.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you." Hebrew Roots Judaizer
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