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Originally Posted by jwp475
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I'm not "you guys"


Well, since you felt compelled to insert yourself, answer the questions.


It's a dumb question


One you apparently can’t answer.

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No argument from me whatsoever regarding your experience with riflescopes. I am simply curious; which scope brands do you recall that have failed on your 50?


All brand's (fixed or Vari ) from every tier that had no questions asked warranties.
Only buy scopes with No questions asked warranties.


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A shooter is NOT 99% of joebob hunters who shoot less than 100 rounds per year.

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Originally Posted by ctsmith
A shooter is NOT 99% of joebob hunters who shoot less than 100 rounds per year.


I shoot a lot more than that. But you still haven’t defined a “shooter”. You did indicate it was a physical thing like baseball. So, I’m naturally much more athletic than you and was a much better baseball player regardless of the amount of practice you tried. So, do you contend that shooting is different and based on a round count in practice instead of results?

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475

I'm not "you guys"


Well, since you felt compelled to insert yourself, answer the questions.


It's a dumb question


One you apparently can’t answer.


One I apparently am amazed at you asking so dominantly

Obtuse comes to mind


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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475

I'm not "you guys"


Well, since you felt compelled to insert yourself, answer the questions.


It's a dumb question


One you apparently can’t answer.


One I apparently am amazed at you asking so dominantly




Once again, define it.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475

I'm not "you guys"


Well, since you felt compelled to insert yourself, answer the questions.


It's a dumb question


One you apparently can’t answer.


One I apparently am amazed at you asking so dominantly




Once again, define it.




Obtuse you are



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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475

I'm not "you guys"


Well, since you felt compelled to insert yourself, answer the questions.


It's a dumb question


One you apparently can’t answer.


One I apparently am amazed at you asking so dominantly




Once again, define it.




Obtuse you are




I’m simply asking you to provide a definition of what makes one a “shooter” in your opinion. I’ve even provided examples and you’ve declined to opine on them. I’m hardly the one being obtuse.

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Your asking a stupid Obtuse BS question



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Whats the definition of a hunter? grin So freaking stupid.

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Originally Posted by jwp475

Your asking a stupid Obtuse BS question


Well, define what it means to you since you are so opinionated about it.

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Originally Posted by ctsmith
Whats the definition of a hunter? grin So freaking stupid.


Well, obviously anyone who shoots an animal over 300 yards is not a hunter but rather a sharpshooter.

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Yet on bicycle forums, oddly enough, you don't have a dedicated group of blowhards running down the $500 bike at every opportunity.

I've never been on a bicycle forum, so tell me; If there is not a group of "blowhards" who run down $500.00 bicycles is there also a lack a self-aggrandizing nitwits who swear that a $500.00 bicycle is all anyone needs and anyone spending more is just a fool?



That was almost pretty good, but it missed the mark by quite a bit. There plenty of bicyclists riding $500 bikes that are certain they don't need a blacked out $5000 carbon fiber bike, hydraulic disk brakes and a NASCAR looking jersey to get good exercise and enjoy themselves. Likewise there are those who have convinced themselves that they absolutely must have the latest high dollar bikes and electronic gadgetry to get in a good workout. Poseurs if you will. Every passtime/activity has those though. There are also those who demand the very best and are capable of using it. That is a minority. They tend to be humble and helpful. They are very slow to get into internet dick measuring contests.

What there is not is a substantial vocal group who prosthelytize against a particular piece of cycling related equipment at every opportunity. In our crazy social media world, that is something that is unique in the Leupold hate group.

I'd venture a guess that half the people who are railing against Leupold have never experienced a failure. I venture a guess that 50 of those who have had failures, exaggerate the claim. I'd further guess that the majority that insist that anything less than a Nightforce ATACR will doom them to failure can't and don't use the scope to its fullest potential. But hey, they fit in well with the crowd!

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jwp475

I'm not "you guys"


Well, since you felt compelled to insert yourself, answer the questions.


It's a dumb question


One you apparently can’t answer.


One thing I have learned from forums is that the main reason people don't answer questions, is that they can't answer the question or that answering honestly makes them look like dipschidts. Not that the ducking and dodging questions hasn't already done so. I thought that used to be the sole dominion of liberal political hacks, but it's alive and well here too.

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It’s well documented that Leupolds do not track for schidt

But try one out for yourself


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Originally Posted by BobBrown
It’s well documented that Leupolds do not track for schidt

But try one out for yourself


If I ever get into dialing, I may discover that you are correct.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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It’s well documented that Leupolds do not track for schidt

But try one out for yourself


If I ever get into dialing, I may discover that you are correct.


How about sighting in? Tracking helps there too.

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It’s well documented that Leupolds do not track for schidt

But try one out for yourself


If I ever get into dialing, I may discover that you are correct.


How about sighting in? Tracking helps there too.


I’ve never had much trouble doing that with Leupold.

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Originally Posted by ctsmith
Whats the definition of a hunter? grin So freaking stupid.


In reading this thread, it is indeed a stupidasss question. I had loads of hunters in camps when we were guiding that hunted and killed stuff all over the world. Not sure how good of a "shooter" they were, but 99% of them could kill the crap out of what they were shooting at. If someone is stupid enough ( JoeBob) to ask such a stupid question or make such stupid point (Paul Barnard, but what else is new), they'll never get an answer they'll accept, so screw it.


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