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Re: Leupold hate [Re: deerslayer6837] #16279048 07/24/21
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Poll: How many Leupolds have Willto's posts sold ?

A. 1-100
B. None
C. >-10
D. >100


Hold into the suds!

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...talking about my nursing job and posting doe in the minivan pics is totally the way to assert dominance on a hunting forum.

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Re: Leupold hate [Re: kingston] #16279074 07/24/21
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Originally Posted by kingston
Poll: How many Leupolds have Willto's posts sold ?

A. 1-100
B. None
C. >-10
D. >100


Not my intention. I own more scopes that's aren't Leupold by far. Don't care what you use. Just don't tell me what I need to do the hunting that I do.

Re: Leupold hate [Re: Willto] #16279113 07/24/21
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Originally Posted by Willto
Your opinion and used toilet paper are on about the same level of worth.



The difference between my opinion and yours is that I actually own and use both Leupold and Alpha level glass where as you just make halfassed guesses.

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Originally Posted by Willto
Originally Posted by kingston
Poll: How many Leupolds have Willto's posts sold ?

A. 1-100
B. None
C. >-10
D. >100


Not my intention. I own more scopes that's aren't Leupold by far. Don't care what you use. Just don't tell me what I need to do the hunting that I do.


No one ever told you what scope to use moron. Your the one that came on this thread stating leupold was just as good as alpha glass for 300yd shots which it simply isn’t despite your foot stomping. Alpha glass will always beat your beloved leupolds, facts are still facts.

Your also the one that came on this thread bashing alpha glass that you’ve admittedly never used. No one said leupolds didn’t work fine as set and forget but they aren’t the grail you claim either.


The only alpha glass you have discussed is the Swarovski z6. Yep Swaro glass is very nice but many others in the same price range equal or beat the Swaro in light transmission, have better mechanics, more adjustment range, better reticles etc. yes the Z6 is a nice scope but for the money it has concessions without any benefits I can see vs several other makers models.

Re: Leupold hate [Re: MallardAddict] #16279133 07/24/21
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Originally Posted by MallardAddict
Originally Posted by Willto
Your opinion and used toilet paper are on about the same level of worth.



The difference between my opinion and yours is that I actually own and use both Leupold and Alpha level glass where as you just make halfassed guesses.


I own many scopes. Even some I paid too much for (Swaro Z-6). But what I have learned is that where I hunt for my circumstances there isn't a damn thing I can do with a 2000 dollar scope that I can't do with a 700 dollar one. Nothing! So why drop the extra cash? And the answer is that there is just no reason to do it.

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Re: Leupold hate [Re: Willto] #16279149 07/24/21
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Originally Posted by Willto
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Originally Posted by Willto
Your opinion and used toilet paper are on about the same level of worth.



The difference between my opinion and yours is that I actually own and use both Leupold and Alpha level glass where as you just make halfassed guesses.


I own many scopes. Even some I paid too much for (Swaro Z-6). But what I have learned is that where I hunt for my circumstances there isn't a damn thing I can do with a 2000 dollar scope that I can't do with a 700 dollar one. Nothing! So why drop the extra cash? And the answer is that there is just no reason to do it.


There is several reason why alpha glass is better for what you do which have been clearly discussed ad naiseum here. You just choose to deny the facts that have been posted.

I have yet to see anyone use alpha glass and not admit it was indeed better then the mid level scopes they had on their rifles. I’ve also yet to see someone buy alpha glass and not comment about what they are missing when they get behind lesser glass.

Sure that level of clarity, adjustment , durability etc may not be needed but it’s still factually better despite your repeated claims it isn’t.

No one here ever even claimed you NEEDED alpha for the way you hunt but the fact it is indeed better in all ways then the examples you gave is still a fact. It’s up to each hunter how they spend their money and some of us choose to spend good money on glass.


Re: Leupold hate [Re: deerslayer6837] #16279157 07/24/21
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Your also the one that came on this thread bashing alpha glass that you’ve admittedly never used.


And that is where you are wrong again. I said I didn't need a target scope for hunting. And that some of the target scopes like SWFA while possessing certain features that are good for long range shooting did not have the best glass or light transmission. I clearly stated waaaaay back in this thread that you could indeed get all the target scope features you desire and high quality glass and good low light performance BUT that you would pay a damn high price for it. I can go back and find the post if you like. My point has consistently been why pay for those target scope features if you do not need them, There are still lots of places where a set it and forget it light weight hunting scope with good glass is all you need.

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Re: Leupold hate [Re: deerslayer6837] #16279172 07/24/21
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There is several reason why alpha glass is better for what you do which have been clearly discussed ad naiseum here


Like what? I need to be able to see the animal during legal shooting light through my scope. Good low light performance is needed; a scope that won't fog up is needed; a scope that holds zero is needed; but I'm not taking photographs for National Geographic. I'm using a scope as an aiming device to kill something. I have no problem doing it with what I have.

Re: Leupold hate [Re: deerslayer6837] #16279185 07/24/21
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This thread is as entertaining as it is ironic.

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I don't have Leupold hate, but I hate that I need to send a couple of my 6x42s in to stop their rattling.


"In the real world, think of the 6.5 Creedmoor as the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019
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Leupold does make excellent grouse scopes!! 🤣
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Ping pong balls for the win.
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Hey Bama, say, ocotillo....
A elk couldn’t kill itself with a 308... Dana Merrit Washington logger that’s killed more elk than you, with a 338...
Re: Leupold hate [Re: deerslayer6837] #16279218 07/24/21
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Talley LW’s? Now you’ve done it.

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😂😂


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Hey Bama, say, ocotillo....
A elk couldn’t kill itself with a 308... Dana Merrit Washington logger that’s killed more elk than you, with a 338...
Re: Leupold hate [Re: Judman] #16279226 07/24/21
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Originally Posted by Judman
Leupold does make excellent grouse scopes!! 🤣
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You almost missed dude.

Failure to hold zero?



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I have a VX-II 4-12x40AO sitting in Talley lightweights. Am I doubly cursed?

In the interest of full disclosure I did have to send that one in to get the innards tightened up.

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"In the real world, think of the 6.5 Creedmoor as the modernized/standardized/optimized version of the 6.5x55/.260." John Barsness 2019
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They break all the time too, while I’m on my couch😂😂
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Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
Hey Bama, say, ocotillo....
A elk couldn’t kill itself with a 308... Dana Merrit Washington logger that’s killed more elk than you, with a 338...
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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Originally Posted by Judman
Leupold does make excellent grouse scopes!! 🤣
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You almost missed dude.

Failure to hold zero?


Easy now Ted!!! It was a freehand shot!! Haha


Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
Hey Bama, say, ocotillo....
A elk couldn’t kill itself with a 308... Dana Merrit Washington logger that’s killed more elk than you, with a 338...
Re: Leupold hate [Re: deerslayer6837] #16279242 07/24/21
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They kill ptarmigan well too.

Shotgun be damned.

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Ya, you’re done.

Might as well sit back, pop open a nice cold Coors Light and some Jack on ice while you wait for your destiny.

Originally Posted by mathman
I have a VX-II 4-12x40AO sitting in Talley lightweights. Am I doubly cursed?

In the interest of full disclosure I did have to send that one in to get the innards tightened up.

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SOB, more Talley’s and Leupold.

You better sit back and start drinking with Mathman.

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They kill ptarmigan well too.

Shotgun be damned.

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