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You cannot possibly know that God does not exist.
Yep, that's what the lack of evidence is saying. I get the feeling that you are having a hard time accepting your faith as faith.
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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You cannot possibly know that God does not exist.
Yep, that's what the lack of evidence is saying. I get the feeling that you are having a hard time accepting your faith as faith. That which is asserted without evidence, can be rejected without evidence.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Faith is not a reliable means for finding truth.
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You cannot possibly know that God does not exist.
Yep, that's what the lack of evidence is saying. I get the feeling that you are having a hard time accepting your faith as faith. More non-sequitur gibberish on your part. I get the feeling you have a reading comprehension problem. The evidence for the existence of non-existence and God is not a matter of discussion here….surely you comprehend that…well, maybe you don’t. The statement stands as logical and true….. a simple concept that you have an inability to comprehend. You simply cannot possibly know that God does not exist.
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You cannot possibly know that God does not exist.
Yep, that's what the lack of evidence is saying. I get the feeling that you are having a hard time accepting your faith as faith. That which is asserted without evidence, can be rejected without evidence. Nope, that is a misapplication of a worn out phrase. You…. Antelope Sniper…. Cannot know that God does not exist. You can act like He doesn’t exist, you can believe He doesn’t exist….. but you cannot know that.
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You cannot possibly know that God does not exist.
Yep, that's what the lack of evidence is saying. I get the feeling that you are having a hard time accepting your faith as faith. That which is asserted without evidence, can be rejected without evidence. Nope, that is a misapplication of a worn out phrase. You…. Antelope Sniper…. Cannot know that God does not exist. You can act like He doesn’t exist, you can believe He doesn’t exist….. but you cannot know that. That's not necessarily true. Weather or not the existence of a specific god(s) can be disproven is a matter of definition. It's why I'll only accept the burden of proof regarding the non-existence of a god after the god(s) is defined, and that definition is agreed upon. A simple example of this regarding the Greek gods is the claim they live a top Mount Olympus. Human's scaled Mount Olympus in the 1920's, and found no gods clearly disproving that claim and the existence of any gods depending upon it's truth. Like wise, many definitions of the Christian God are demonstrably not true. A few simple examples of this are the literalist interpretations dependent upon a literal 6 day creation, 6,000 year old earth, a firmament, and/or those that require a Flat Earth. The problem with Christians is, they are really good at "Moving the Goal Posts". They've been doing it for a couple thousand years in their attempts to create an unfalsifiable definition their god. But just because you've created an unfalsifiable definition of something, that doesn't mean it's reasonable to believe it exists. If you were to apply this mode of thinking to everything in your life, not just god, you would have to belief everything you were told until it could be definitively disproven, beginning with every fairy tale creature, every other god, and every claim ever made by every scientist, because after all, according to this mode of thinking, they have no burden of proof, you must disprove what they claim even if they have zero evidence to support their claims. So enjoy living in a world were leprechauns are real, Joe Biden got 80,000,000 votes, and Elvis isn't dead.
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We jawbone about everything else here. See, I can prove it! ![[Linked Image from kearsleyeclipse.com]](https://kearsleyeclipse.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/flat-earth-e1520528803961.png) I heard they had members all around the globe....
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I wonder if this 6’ social distancing has pushed anyone over the edge yet?
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...many definitions of the Christian God are demonstrably not true. A few simple examples of this are the literalist interpretations dependent upon a literal 6 day creation, 6,000 year old earth, a firmament, and/or those that require a Flat Earth. Who decided that the God of Christianity was defined by “literalist interpretations dependent upon a literal 6 day creation, 6,000 year old earth, a firmament, and/or those that require a Flat Earth”...?
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...many definitions of the Christian God are demonstrably not true. A few simple examples of this are the literalist interpretations dependent upon a literal 6 day creation, 6,000 year old earth, a firmament, and/or those that require a Flat Earth. Who decided that the God of Christianity was defined by “literalist interpretations dependent upon a literal 6 day creation, 6,000 year old earth, a firmament, and/or those that require a Flat Earth”...? That's how Ringman and many other Christians defines it, as hence there version of Christianity is demonstrably false. In general, the close a set of Christian beliefs conforms to the actual words on the pages of the Bible the easier it is to disprove. Of course, your version of Christianity is one that's unrecognizable as such to most "Christians", but that's how you've chosen to define your Christianity, and here in America you can do that because of this little thing called the First Amendment.
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I’ve never seen where “Ringman and many other Christians” define the God of Christianity by “literalist interpretations dependent upon a literal 6 day creation, 6,000 year old earth, a firmament, and/or those that require a Flat Earth.” I have seen where “Ringman and many other Christians” profess their belief in a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation story, but that is markedly different as it being their definition of the God of Christianity.
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You cannot possibly know that God does not exist.
Yep, that's what the lack of evidence is saying. I get the feeling that you are having a hard time accepting your faith as faith. That which is asserted without evidence, can be rejected without evidence. There is evidence though. Here is one example amoung many. https://www.reasonablefaith.org/wri...-of-god/the-kalam-cosmological-argument/Natural Theology has several very good ones.
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Christ died for our sins.
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...your version of Christianity is one that's unrecognizable as such to most "Christians",... Interesting assertion you’ve made. I think it’s possible that Jesus’ earliest followers after the resurrection...the original practitioners of the original version of Christianity...might also say the same thing about the version of Christianity that is practiced by most “Christians” today; it would be unrecognizable to them.
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That's not necessarily true. Weather or not the existence of a specific god(s) can be disproven is a matter of definition. It's why I'll only accept the burden of proof regarding the non-existence of a god after the god(s) is defined, and that definition is agreed upon.
Agreed to by who?
The problem with Christians is, they are really good at "Moving the Goal Posts". They've been doing it for a couple thousand years in their attempts to create an unfalsifiable definition their god.
Modern theologians aren't moving the goals posts. God of the Bible is by definition falsifiable because He is supernatural and sentient. The empirical method only works in the realm of the natural laws of physics.
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You cannot possibly know that God does not exist.
Yep, that's what the lack of evidence is saying. I get the feeling that you are having a hard time accepting your faith as faith. That which is asserted without evidence, can be rejected without evidence. Nope, that is a misapplication of a worn out phrase. You…. Antelope Sniper…. Cannot know that God does not exist. You can act like He doesn’t exist, you can believe He doesn’t exist….. but you cannot know that. That's not necessarily true. Weather or not the existence of a specific god(s) can be disproven is a matter of definition. It's why I'll only accept the burden of proof regarding the non-existence of a god after the god(s) is defined, and that definition is agreed upon. A simple example of this regarding the Greek gods is the claim they live a top Mount Olympus. Human's scaled Mount Olympus in the 1920's, and found no gods clearly disproving that claim and the existence of any gods depending upon it's truth. Like wise, many definitions of the Christian God are demonstrably not true. A few simple examples of this are the literalist interpretations dependent upon a literal 6 day creation, 6,000 year old earth, a firmament, and/or those that require a Flat Earth. The problem with Christians is, they are really good at "Moving the Goal Posts". They've been doing it for a couple thousand years in their attempts to create an unfalsifiable definition their god. But just because you've created an unfalsifiable definition of something, that doesn't mean it's reasonable to believe it exists. If you were to apply this mode of thinking to everything in your life, not just god, you would have to belief everything you were told until it could be definitively disproven, beginning with every fairy tale creature, every other god, and every claim ever made by every scientist, because after all, according to this mode of thinking, they have no burden of proof, you must disprove what they claim even if they have zero evidence to support their claims. So enjoy living in a world were leprechauns are real, Joe Biden got 80,000,000 votes, and Elvis isn't dead. Heavy load of bafflegab there…. You changed definitions and context….and erected quite a few straw men in your last couple of posts… …. boil it down and we see that yes, indeed, there is no way you can know that God does not exist…..
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You cannot possibly know that God does not exist.
Yep, that's what the lack of evidence is saying. I get the feeling that you are having a hard time accepting your faith as faith. That which is asserted without evidence, can be rejected without evidence. Ah,,,yes….just like Mauser’s assertion that God does not exist. But, the statement still stands….. you don’t KNOW that God does not exist.
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Perhaps the bible does not describe a literal creation, or a literal world flood or a literal Ark, or a literal tower or a literal exodus....or a literal God.
Perhaps its all metaphor or a means for an ancient people to build a religion and a social identity.
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Perhaps the bible does not describe a literal creation, or a literal world flood or a literal Ark, or a literal tower or a literal exodus....or a literal God.
Perhaps its all metaphor or a means for an ancient people to build a religion and a social identity. Perhaps the Universe popped into existence out of nothing ... like magic.
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