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Ralph, I've had a bit of time to do some reading, and have a couple thoughts for you to look at.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Doc, why was the original swine flu vax pulled after 20 deaths and now the Covid jab is not being pulled after VAERS reports 9000 deaths?


In the first place, I don't know "why". I can only guess, which is about all you can do, as well.

The swine flu vaccine debacle in 1976, looked back at through the retrospectoscope, was a huge political boondoggle. Frankly, I missed it at the time, and had to do some reading to find out what all the fuss was about. Turns out that one (1) U.S. serviceman died from swine flu, and a bunch of politically ambitious scientists convinced some critters in Congress that this was sufficient cause to initiate the greatest mass vaccination effort since ever. You likely know all about it, but for those who don't, here's a link with a short summary: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/long-shadow-1976-swine-flu-vaccine-fiasco-180961994/. There are some other links you can access through that article to get some more detailed articles if you care to.

The gist of it was that 1976 was an election year, and a whole bunch of politicians tried to use the swine flu scare and the vaccination program to gain votes. Then a bunch of other folks who were opposed to this first group made hay with some statistics about deaths from Guillain-Barre disease that they attributed to the swine flu vaccine, and raised a helluva ruckus about it that caused such a public relations backlash that Congress and the FDA and god knows who else decided to scrap the whole program.

The incidence of G-B in the general population was about 1 in 100,000 at that time (still is), and in the vaccinated population it appeared to be about 2 in 100,000. Pretty small numbers, and with such a rare disease, the statistical significance of the "jump" was, well, insignificant. But it was played up in the press, and by politicians in Washington, to the point that Americans were scared to death of the vaccine.

Sounds pretty much deja vu, all over again, huh?

The result of this debacle was twofold: 1) it created the "antivax" culture almost overnight, and that culture continues to spin and spin and spin; and 2) it created a much tougher approach in public health authorities to dealing with potential vaccine complications, which in part counterbalances the antivaxxers' paranoia. The general public, generally ignorant of science in all things more complex than being able to misquote Newton's first law of thermodynamics, has been caught between the two extremes ever since and the more or less general public mistrust of vaccine programs stems from this.

But let's look at the SARS-CoV2 vaccine associated problems, and see where it compares. First thing, I'm gonna call b u l l s h i t your "VAERS-reported 9000 deaths". The VAERS database is a list of ANYthing bad that happens to ANYone within a specified time period of getting a vaccine. There is no implication of causation in the VAERS database. It's just a pool of numbers to look at. And the CDC is currently reporting the number of deaths on the list at 6207, not 9000, as of July 21 (https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/covid-19-vaccine-related-fatalities-updated). Second thing, let's look at the VAERS pool of data and compare to the general population for some supposed "adverse effects" of the vaccine.

I've picked out a couple-three examples from the literature we can look at: 1) the risk of "blood clots", which everybody thinks they know about but don't, which the CDC specifies as thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS); 2) Guillain-Barre Syndrome, previously mentioned; and 3) cardiomyopathy/pericarditis syndromes. You can look these up on the CDC website here: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

1)TTS There have been 39 confirmed cases of TTS in recipients of the J&J vaccine (13+ million doses given) and 2 cases of TTS in recipients of mRNA vaccines (324 million doses given). This translates into a risk ration of 0.3 per 100,000 population and 0.0062 per 100K. Now, it's tough to compare that to the risk of TTS in the general population at large, because TTS comprises several syndromes that come under other names; but the best estimate I've found comes from here: [ https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-04-23/06-COVID-Oliver-508.pdf ] and this author cites the incidence at about 0.7-1.6 per million, or 0.07-0.16 per 100,000. So this tells us that the rate of TTS in recipients of J&J vaccine appears to be about twice as high as in the general population, but with Pfizer/Moderna it's 1/10 the risk in the general population. But you have to concede that the risk is very small in any of these.

By way of comparison, the majority of intensive care deaths due to SARS-CoV2 have a blood-clotting failure problem to them (either hypercoagulability or hypcoagulability). Using Worldometer's estimate of US Crude Mortality Rate [ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/ ], which is 238 per 100,000 population, this means that your risk of death from TTS from taking the vaccine is about 1/800 the risk of you dying from COVID.

2) Guillain-Barre Syndrome We have covered this one to some degree in the previous discussion of swine flu. The risk in the general population is about 1-2 per 100,000, depending on which source you cite. What about the risk of GBS from one of the CoV2 vaxes?

Well, there have been "about 100" cases of GBS in folks who've received the J&J vaccine (risk of 0.77 per 100K), and I'm not finding a number for the Pfizer/Moderna vaccines, but it's supposed to be "much lower" than the J&J. Soooo... we see that your chances of developing GBS without vaccines of any kind is 1-2/100K, and with J&J is slightly less than that. [ https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html ]

Not exactly a ringing indictment of the vaccine, again.

3) Cardiomyopathy/Pericarditis Now this is a bit trickier, because these syndromes are not fatal very often, but they really do mess with you for a period of a few weeks to a few months. Now, the incidence of all VAERS-reported cases for ALL the vaccines is 674, and we're talking about 337 million doses of the vaccine. This puts the risk at 0.2 per 100K.

Compare this to a general population risk of 27.7 per 100K for pericarditis, and 10-22 per 100K for viral cardiomyopathy. Let's average that out to 20 per 100K, which is 100X higher than the identified risk with the vaccine.

So: in summary, while I can't definitively tell you why the swine flu vaccine was recalled, I have shown you here that the risks of dying from the vaccine are measurably much lower than the risks of dying from the fecking disease you are able to get vaccinated against.

Does that answer your question, Ralph?


Originally Posted by jaguartx

How are the COVID-19 jabs not illegal to develope or use since there are proven treatments?


I ain't a lawyer. Go ask a lawyer.

But I will point out that we have treatments for Herpes zoster (shingles) that work real well, as you know. You treated me for shingles about 8 years ago, remember? I'm pretty grateful for that, too. Your quick action saved my left eye, man.

But since then they came out with a vaccine against Zoster, and you can be damned sure I took it at the first opportunity, because it's proven to reduce my risk of getting shingles again. It wasn't illegal to develop the Zoster vaccine for the same reason it's not illegal to develop a vaccine against any other infectious disease.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

How is it legal to vax kids who essentially are in no danger from Covid when they havent been proved safe by the FDA.


Again, I ain't a lawyer. Go ask a lawyer.

But I am really leery about this one. I think there needs to be a lot more safety testing before we release this on kids. And the reasoning behind that is really complex, much more complex than the reasoning I've put up above.

To give a personal note, I am vaccinated, as is my wife, as are all 3 of my adult kids. My 2 granddaughters, however, aged 3 and 4, will NOT be vaccinated until I and their mothers are a helluva lot more convinced of the safety in peds population than we are now.

Have a great day, Ralph. I hope we can go dove hunting soon.


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fubarski, I'm real broke up to realize that my feet of clay have shattered your faith in me. Real broke up.

I was a bit wrong on my timing on how bad the epidemic was gonna be a year ago. I didn't know how bad it was gonna get until January. So yeah, I got it wrong. Mea fecking culpa. It ain't the first time and it won't be the last time. But I console myself with the fact that my work over the past year has saved quite a few lives. I lost a lot of folks, too. Some of them were too far gone, and God knows who we really had a shot at saving. COVID deaths were and are hard ones to choke down, and I've seen way more than I ever wanted to. But I've learned, and so has my profession, and I think we are doing better now.

That's what we do in medicine. We work with the information we have, and do our best with what we know, and we learn by our mistakes. And I take great comfort in knowing that there will always be bitter and twisted people like you who will ever remind me of my fallibility.

But hey, there's lots of folks way smarter and better looking than you who don't like me, so I guess I can deal with your disappointment. Don't choke on your spleen, kid. It tastes awful and in the end you'll die.


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fubarski, I'm real broke up to realize that my feet of clay have shattered your faith in me. Real broke up.

I was a bit wrong on my timing on how bad the epidemic was gonna be a year ago. I didn't know how bad it was gonna get until January. So yeah, I got it wrong. Mea fecking culpa. It ain't the first time and it won't be the last time. But I console myself with the fact that my work over the past year has saved quite a few lives. I lost a lot of folks, too. Some of them were too far gone, and God knows who we really had a shot at saving. COVID deaths were and are hard ones to choke down, and I've seen way more than I ever wanted to. But I've learned, and so has my profession, and I think we are doing better now.

That's what we do in medicine. We work with the information we have, and do our best with what we know, and we learn by our mistakes. And I take great comfort in knowing that there will always be bitter and twisted people like you who will ever remind me of my fallibility.

But hey, there's lots of folks way smarter and better looking than you who don't like me, so I guess I can deal with your disappointment. Don't choke on your spleen, kid. It tastes awful and in the end you'll die.


Sniping, snide comments aside, you can't dwell on how treating Covid-19 with ARDS protocols basically was killing them.

The treatments have evolved, and we now know what does and doesn't work.

The push to vaccinate kids REALLY bothers me though. They have almost zero risk from covid. Even if we were not talking about an EUA for a new tech, the push to vaccinate kids for this would be evil.

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You might want to look at the Bret Weinstein podcast when you have time. Bret Weinstein and Robert Malone discuss Pfizer data obtained via a FOIA request to the Japanese Government that indicate the spike proteins are not contained in the membranes of the cells producing them, but get into the blood and later migrate to the ovaries and bone marrow. ...

If this is true, it sounds somewhat alarming to me. I've had both doses of the Moderna vaccine so I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I do look at dissenting positions from credible people and Weinstein and Malone seem credible to me.

You might want to look at the Bret Weinstein podcast when you have time. Bret Weinstein and Robert Malone discuss Pfizer data obtained via a FOIA request to the Japanese Government that indicate the spike proteins are not contained in the membranes of the cells producing them, but get into the blood and later migrate to the ovaries and bone marrow. So that's very different than your description. I'm not a medical biologist and don't have a position on this, but they present very different data and conclusions. If this is true, it sounds somewhat alarming to me. I've had both doses of the Moderna vaccine so I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I do look at dissenting positions from credible people and Weinstein and Malone seem credible to me.



First thing: as much as I admire Bret Weinstein, I find his podcasts interminably dull. He's interesting as a guest on Rogan's podcast, but he puts me to sleep on his own. Second thing, podcasts are a lousy source of information. I listen to podcasts to open lines of inquiry, to cause me to search for information, but there is rarely any solid factual evidence of anything in a podcast. So I decline your invitation to spend 2 hours trying to stay awake for that Weinstein podcast.

Instead, I have done what I do (read and search literature, which I have a lot of experince at). I am not posting this in an effort to convince anyone that the SARS-CoV2 vaccines--individually or in toto--are safe or unsafe, or that you should/shouldn't get a vaccine. The choice is entirely yours.

I am posting this answer because I promised to do so before this thread became a complete name-calling s h i t s h o w, and I try to keep my promises.

I will not be answering any further questions nor arguing with any of you one way or another.

The purpose of Science is to formulate and test hypotheses, in an effort to find truths about physical phenomena. Definitive answers are rare, conflicting information is common, and the truth only emerges over time. This is unsatisfying to the short attention span types who frequent these pages, so those of you who demand free and easy information that is beyond question will be unhappy with it. But if you are willing to invest some time and effort into reading and thinking about it, you should be able to use this information to enlighten yourself.

Now, I am not your unpaid research assistant. You can look these reports up yourself with a modest effort. Whether you can glean sufficient information from them without a research science background I can't say, but if you feel you aren't quite up to speed, I suggest you start with the following videos to get yourself in a position to understand more clearly. It will save you having to read a lot of dull, dry textual material and covers the groundwork pretty decently. And let me suggest that if you find any of these videos confusing, look at some of the linked videos on YouTube that are attached to each of them. There is a tremendous amount of good, solid science on YouTube, and these selections I'm giving you will give you a few decent places to start learning about it if you care to.

1. Difference between DNA and RNA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruUf7ntRCk8
2. How does messenger RNA work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dsTvBaUMvw, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKIpDtJdK8Q
3. Can mRNA alter a host organism's DNA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGKg9rj9W1s
4. How does the DNA-RNA-protein synthesis process work in cells: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gUY5NoX1Lk
5. How mRNA vaccines work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOvvyqJ-vwo
6.How did the mRNA vaccines develop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6aBJ1wYZ0M (this is #6 in a good 6-part series) ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPeeCyJReZw (this is a bit more technical and goes into more of the history of mRNA vaccine science)
7. How do antibodies come into being: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_GRI3fxUWw, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9jl9QpVz10
8. Humoral vs Cell-mediated immunity: ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vh24StylNo, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXB7M_GIf-g
9. How do T-cells create immunity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWhDOR3ZsTE, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i536vS3z3e8 (ignore the pandemic statistics in the intro to the video)
10. How does the S-protein bind to the ACE2 receptor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJwHZKHpKTM
11. Receptor binding pharmacodynamics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZzOg3IzjUE, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=011Bj5USal8, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXOXZ-kaSVI (This topic was integral to my Master's Degree research, which was in the study of one particular receptor-ligand interaction and which I spent about 2 years working on in the lab and the library. I'm pretty much up to speed on this topic even today. It has quite a lot of bearing on the topic of the question I'm answering here.)

If you don't want to bother learning the information in the above videos, you probably won't be able to get sufficient information from the following references to make an informed opinion. But hey, that's how most of the folks on these pages operate in any case, so don't let that hold you back.

So, do S-proteins accumulate in human ovaries?

1. Probably not, from studies in cell cultures of CoV2 infection, S-proteins don't accumulate and don't have a toxic effect. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7205710/ (this is only one representative article; there are several other studies that look at other aspects of the question, and came up with more or less the same result).

2. However: enough people are interested in this to look into it some more (https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/bmjopen/11/2/e045524.full.pdf). Basically, they're saying that since the S-protein attaches to Angtiotensin-II receptors, and ovarian tissue is rich in ACE2 receptors, maybe CoV2 will affect female fertility because the virus will bind to ovaries preferentially versus tissues that aren't as rich in ACE2's. But nobody knows if this will have any longterm effect on fertility, which is why they are proposing these studies. It will take a long time to get answers, because female fertility is extremely complex and highly difficult to study, despite the fact that human trailer-trash females who have more tattoos than teeth and can barely spell their own names are able to reproduce with apparent great fecundity.

3. But notwithstanding #2, the fact that lab scientists have shown that S-proteins don't accumulate in ovarian cells in tissue culture despite the abundance of ACE2 receptors on these cells, suggests that what happens to the S-proteins that have bound to the ACE2 receptors is exactly as I explained to you previously, and which is explained in part in the YouTube video in #11, above:
a) the S-protein (which is a ligand) is a "fake" ligand on the surface of the CoV2 virus that binds to the ACE2 receptor; the ACE2 receptor is supposed to
bind to Angiotensin, a hormone that has numerous regulatory effects on human cells;
b) in the normal case, ligand-receptor binding causes certain enzymes in the target human cell to be activated. This
causes particular cellular chemical reactions to take place that otherwise would be dormant. After a specified time period, the ligand is released from
the receptor and is chewed up by enzymes on the cell surface or inside it. This is the process that prevents a hormone release from having an
indefinite or prolonged effect.
c) the S-protein's binding to the ACE2 receptor may or may not trigger the cell's enzymes, but its REAL purpose is to "jam the mechanism"... it binds to
the ACE2 receptor irreversibly, rendering it useless.
d) the cell recognizes the now-defunct ACE2-ligand complex as defunct, so it pulls it back into the cell to be broken down into component parts
that can be reused.
e) the CoV2 virus, which is attached to the ACE2-ligand complex, thus gains entry into the host cell, where it releases its RNA core, and this takes over
the host cell's protein synthesis systems to manufacture multiple new copies of the virus.
f) in the case of the "free" S-proteins produced by an mRNA vaccine, the defunct receptor-ligand complex is drawn into the cell, but since there is no
virus attached to it, there is no infection of the cell; the S-protein is now nothing more than a component of a large "broken" molecular structure that
the cell breaks down into its amino acid building blocks, to be reused to make new proteins as part of the cell's ongoing life.

Now, I cannot PROVE to you that this is what happens to the S-proteins produced by one of the mRNA vaccines. All I can tell you is that this is what happens to every other receptor-ligand complex known to biomedical science, every time, in every cell of every species. For the S-protein to somehow have a completely DIFFERENT ending than every other ligand that binds to cell receptors is theoretically possible, but the fact that no one has found accumulation of S-proteins in ovarian cell cultures (see point #1 above) suggests that this is in fact what happens to S-proteins, just as it does in every single other case of receptor-ligand complexes known to science.

Now, that is as plainly as I can explain it. I hope this serves as a reasonable answer to your question. If I have failed to answer it to your satisfaction, go ask somebody else.


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Originally Posted by DocRocket
fubarski, I'm real broke up to realize that my feet of clay have shattered your faith in me. Real broke up.

I was a bit wrong on my timing on how bad the epidemic was gonna be a year ago. I didn't know how bad it was gonna get until January. So yeah, I got it wrong. Mea fecking culpa. It ain't the first time and it won't be the last time. But I console myself with the fact that my work over the past year has saved quite a few lives. I lost a lot of folks, too. Some of them were too far gone, and God knows who we really had a shot at saving. COVID deaths were and are hard ones to choke down, and I've seen way more than I ever wanted to. But I've learned, and so has my profession, and I think we are doing better now.

That's what we do in medicine. We work with the information we have, and do our best with what we know, and we learn by our mistakes. And I take great comfort in knowing that there will always be bitter and twisted people like you who will ever remind me of my fallibility.

But hey, there's lots of folks way smarter and better looking than you who don't like me, so I guess I can deal with your disappointment. Don't choke on your spleen, kid. It tastes awful and in the end you'll die.


You is really good at givin yourself a handjob.

But then again, not a lotta distance travelled in *that* endeavor, either, by hand or foot.

Hadda look up feet of clay. Thought you was stuck in the mud, and couldn't log in.

I quoted a small part of the things you posted last year that didn't have any basis for support at that time, and turned out ta be wrong.

Just as people have the right ta remain silent, and can't seem ta do it, early in the bolo-19 scare warmup, you had the right ta say that doctors don't really know what was goin on, and that with time, the problem could be understood, and dealt with.

But you didn't do that. You posted that "the science isn't settled", when of course the coronavirus family of viruses was, and is, well understood and has been for decades.

You posted that isolation would prevent hospitals being overwhelmed, with no basis for that assumption, which is why it turned out ta be wrong.

And you posted a number of other predictions which happened to coincide with the projections made by those interested in promoting the hysteria.

I can't tell if that was a mistake of the head, or of the heart, but I *do* know, that you're following the same path in the support of the fakeccines you've posted recently.

You admit in your latest analysis that nobody knows what the long-term effects might be, but you are pushing through that fact in supporting the safety of the shots.

You claim now that "the science is settled", when in fact the treatments have little history behind them, compared to knowledge of the coronavirus.

What if you're wrong about the long term safety of the shots, as you were wrong about your initial analysis of the course of treatment for the bolognavirus?

There's nothing wrong with admitting that there is, at this time, an insufficient knowledge base to reach a conclusion relative to the merits of the fakeccines, but again you didn't do that.

Except when it came to your own blood, of course.

If you're going to be a shot cheerleader, it's only fair to examine the history of your past predictions, is it not?

Apparently, not.

Your input won't affect any action I may or may not take even with my spleen.

All I can do is look forward, and hope for your patients' sakes that, someday, you'll be as good a doctor as you think you are.

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Hey, Fugqoffski... 8787 deaths in Texas due to CoV2 since February. All but 43 of those deaths in non-vaccinated people.

That's 99. 995% non-vaccinated people.

Like I said, I'm real sorry you're so butt-hurt by my fallibility. Well, kinda sorry. Actually, not at all. Oh, well. Keep on bein' you, bub.

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Yall need to go fishin and drink together. Solves alot of problems.

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"CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses."

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/...ges_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

The CDC now admit that their bullshit test won't detect the difference between bolo-19, and any other coronavirus.

Or, detect the difference between bolo-19, any other coronavirus, and the flu.

IOW, anybody that took the test, never really knew what they had.

Most likely, on purpose.

Anybody that ever believed in those bullshit numbers is, and has been, an idiot.

So, suckpuppet, I'd say "keep on bein you", except that doin that's going to fck up other people's lives.

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Yall need to go fishin and drink together. Solves alot of problems.


Yeah, that would probably work. It might fix a lot of the world's problems. More fishin', anyway.


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Doc, appreciate the content and the effort



Decent article about How Science lost the public

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-...biden-censorship-coronavirus-11627049477

Vaccines have been central to the question of “misinformation” and the White House’s pressure campaign against social media to censor it. Mr. Ridley worries about the opposite problem: that social media “is complicit in enforcing conformity.” It does this “through ‘fact checking,’ mob pile-ons, and direct censorship, now explicitly at the behest of the Biden administration.” He points out that Facebook and Wikipedia long banned any mention of the possibility that the virus leaked from a Wuhan laboratory.

“Conformity,” Mr. Ridley says, “is the enemy of scientific progress, which depends on disagreement and challenge. Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts, as [the physicist Richard] Feynman put it.” Mr. Ridley reserves his bluntest criticism for “science as a profession,” which he says has become “rather off-puttingly arrogant and political, permeated by motivated reasoning and confirmation bias.” Increasing numbers of scientists “seem to fall prey to groupthink, and the process of peer-reviewing and publishing allows dogmatic gate-keeping to get in the way of new ideas and open-minded challenge.”

The World Health Organization is a particular offender: “We had a dozen Western scientists go to China in February and team up with a dozen Chinese scientists under the auspices of the WHO.” At a subsequent press conference they pronounced the lab-leak theory “extremely unlikely.” The organization also ignored Taiwanese cries for help with Covid-19 in January 2020. “The Taiwanese said, ‘We’re picking up signs that this is a human-to-human transmission that threatens a major epidemic. Please, will you investigate?’ And the WHO basically said, ‘You’re from Taiwan. We’re not allowed to talk to you.’ ”

He notes that WHO’s primary task is forestalling pandemics. Yet in 2015 it “put out a statement saying that the greatest threat to human health in the 21st century is climate change. Now that, to me, suggests an organization not focused on the day job.”


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And iirc something like 43 Chinese scientists were working for Pfizer?


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Just like "conspiracy theory" is a PSYOP, so is pegging all push back against Fluoridated public water with lunacy. The general acceptance of Fluoridated municipal water is a necessity because Fluoride is an unavoidable toxic byproduct of big industry that would otherwise need to be halted, since disposing of it safely otherwise would be economically unfeasible. Massive dilution into municipal drinking water nationwide (under the cover of being a benefit to dental health) is, therefore, the only feasible alternative. Thus the campaign to peg its opposition with nuttiness, such as we see in this clip. It's a PSYOP. There are many PSYOPs running concurrently. They are deemed necessary for the "greater good."


And this is why your title of KOTY-Emeritus is for perpetuity... Well done!


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Originally Posted by jorgeI

And this is why your title of KOTY-Emeritus is for perpetuity... Well done!

I'm crushed.


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Originally Posted by DocRocket
Hey, Fugqoffski... 8787 deaths in Texas due to CoV2 since February. All but 43 of those deaths in non-vaccinated people.

That's 99. 995% non-vaccinated people.

Like I said, I'm real sorry you're so butt-hurt by my fallibility. Well, kinda sorry. Actually, not at all. Oh, well. Keep on bein' you, bub.

These numbers do not tell us much about the efficacy of the vaccine given the fact that there are so many possible confounding variables in the sample populations. For example, maybe exposure and transmission factors were different in the vaccinated population. What were the vaccination rates while the mortality numbers were collected. In other words how many people were vaccinated during Feb, March, etc ... of those.

Also, the very idea that anyone died after having been vaccinated should be explained much better than it appears to be.

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Chinese Military Scientist Suspected of Involvement in COVID-19 Creation Elected to American Academy of Microbiology
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...n-elected-american-academy-microbiology/


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Originally Posted by DocRocket
Hey, Fugqoffski... 8787 deaths in Texas due to CoV2 since February. All but 43 of those deaths in non-vaccinated people.

That's 99. 995% non-vaccinated people.

Like I said, I'm real sorry you're so butt-hurt by my fallibility. Well, kinda sorry. Actually, not at all. Oh, well. Keep on bein' you, bub.


LOL

You believe those numbers?

Even the CDC has admitted all testing has been fugked.


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Trump being classless, tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Is this true? It would explain a lot!
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Kaye Beck, [May 18, 2021 at 3:03 PM]
And so the cookie starts to crumble... Read this...3 TIMES! The masks begin to fall off!

"The Chinese biological laboratory in Wuhan is owned by Glaxosmithkline, which (accidentally) owns Pfizer!" (the one who makes the vaccine against the virus which was (accidentally) started at the Wuhan Biological Lab and which was (accidentally) funded by Dr. Fauci, who (accidentally) promotes the vaccine!
"GlaxoSmithKline is (accidentally) managed by the finance division of Black Rock, which (accidentally) manages the finances of the Open Foundation Company (Soros Foundation), which (accidentally) manages the French AXA!
"Soros (accidentally) owns the German company Winterthur, which (accidentally) built a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan and was bought by the German Allianz, which (coincidentally) has Vanguard as a shareholder, who (coincidentally) is a shareholder of Black Rock," which (coincidentally) controls central banks and manages about a third of global investment capital.
"Black Rock" is also (coincidentally) a major shareholder of MICROSOFT, owned by Bill Gates, who (coincidentally) is a shareholder of Pfizer (which - remember? Sells a miracle vaccine) and (coincidentally) is now the first sponsor of the 'WHO!
Now you understand how a dead bat sold in a wet market in China has infected the WHOLE PLANET! "" .... copy and share quickly ....


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Doc, appreciate the content and the effort



Decent article about How Science lost the public

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-...biden-censorship-coronavirus-11627049477

Vaccines have been central to the question of “misinformation” and the White House’s pressure campaign against social media to censor it. Mr. Ridley worries about the opposite problem: that social media “is complicit in enforcing conformity.” It does this “through ‘fact checking,’ mob pile-ons, and direct censorship, now explicitly at the behest of the Biden administration.” He points out that Facebook and Wikipedia long banned any mention of the possibility that the virus leaked from a Wuhan laboratory.

“Conformity,” Mr. Ridley says, “is the enemy of scientific progress, which depends on disagreement and challenge. Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts, as [the physicist Richard] Feynman put it.” Mr. Ridley reserves his bluntest criticism for “science as a profession,” which he says has become “rather off-puttingly arrogant and political, permeated by motivated reasoning and confirmation bias.” Increasing numbers of scientists “seem to fall prey to groupthink, and the process of peer-reviewing and publishing allows dogmatic gate-keeping to get in the way of new ideas and open-minded challenge.”

The World Health Organization is a particular offender: “We had a dozen Western scientists go to China in February and team up with a dozen Chinese scientists under the auspices of the WHO.” At a subsequent press conference they pronounced the lab-leak theory “extremely unlikely.” The organization also ignored Taiwanese cries for help with Covid-19 in January 2020. “The Taiwanese said, ‘We’re picking up signs that this is a human-to-human transmission that threatens a major epidemic. Please, will you investigate?’ And the WHO basically said, ‘You’re from Taiwan. We’re not allowed to talk to you.’ ”

He notes that WHO’s primary task is forestalling pandemics. Yet in 2015 it “put out a statement saying that the greatest threat to human health in the 21st century is climate change. Now that, to me, suggests an organization not focused on the day job.”



This is so true.

Combine that with the general incompetence trending in the ranks of the professional community across the broad and you get trust issues.

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I.wonder who is paying this scientist how much to.say this.

https://mobile.twitter.com/camus37/status/1400457899831296003?s=20

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Originally Posted by jaguartx
I.wonder who is paying this scientist how much to.say this.

https://mobile.twitter.com/camus37/status/1400457899831296003?s=20

He's right.


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