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Originally Posted by Sheister
The only time this happened to me I had to scrape the finish and a layer of wood off to get down to bare wood. Easiest way to get it off without changing all the lines completely was to use a cabinet scraper and scrape a very thin layer off at a time until the blotchiness was gone. Took a while and had to reshape parts of the stock to accomodate the changes but it came out okay in the end. You can them put a layer or two of shellac on the wood to seal, then cover with a toned lacquer or polyurethane for the color you want...

For next time, of course... after you've lived with this one for dove season and learn to hate it every time you take it out..... wink

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You nailed it.

Black walnut is in the guns future in January.

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$200 Mossberg + $150 black walnut stock = $350 Wingmaster you should have got in the first place....😜

Or, $400 + $150 = $550 Rem 1100. Anyway, good luck.

I’ve heard of a few folks staining with shoe polish, then putting tru-oil over it. Woulda thought the wax in the shoe polish might cause an issue, but apparently not. May try it some day, just to see if the shoe polish stains more β€œevenly”...

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Originally Posted by fburgtx
$200 Mossberg + $150 black walnut stock = $350 Wingmaster you should have got in the first place....😜

Or, $400 + $150 = $550 Rem 1100. Anyway, good luck.

I’ve heard of a few folks staining with shoe polish, then putting tru-oil over it. Woulda thought the wax in the shoe polish might cause an issue, but apparently not. May try it some day, just to see if the shoe polish stains more β€œevenly”...

Not a remington fan.😁😁😁

Seen some dye vids
Have read about shoe polish

This is a birch stock project I was well aware of the issues that might come up based on the past.
Trial and error.
It wil due.
It will probably turn out fairly acceptable when I get it done.
And a black walnut stock will be shaped and modified for it down the line.
Just like the 1400 MK II project I put on here several yrs ago.

This was basically a unfired pristine win 140 ranger I bought in a parking lot deal for 250. I posted about it when I scored it.
Have always looked for one for a long time that was in exc condition.
None have ever measured up.
Wanted one bad as a teenager didnt have the coin.
I like the plain utilitarian look alot.

I have put one box of shells thru it.
Loading and firing fast as I can.
Swapped out the fixed mod barrel one day when I came across one at a LGS I have a good relationship with .
Badically barrel for barrel and 20 bucks.

The gun was purchased with 9mm Endowment Foundation money
Along with many others this summer.
That game petered out about mid june.
Spent my remaining funds and got the ZPAP .
Not bad for a intial 150 to 200 bucks of my own.
9mm Endowment Foundation compunding rapidly equaled huge profits and at my selling price of 25 bucks a box versus my buying price of 16 to 17 a box.
Buying power for me would always compound and profit would correspond.


The Lebanon gun show tommorow might have a stock set among a few other things Im looking for.

Where did you come up with those prices on guns from in this day and age ????
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Surprised no one has mentioned this. Perhaps they did and I missed it. The OIT (old Indian trick) for staining birch and other similar woods is to use leather dye. Start as light as you can as a test….if you don’t like it, use the next shade darker, etc.

Works like a champ.

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I have a Ranger 140 as well. I bought it in 1983 and still have it. It has an ugly yellow green stock as well. I believe I will learn to live with that color as I only have about 20 years left anyway. I won't have enough time left to get used to the blotchy mess you inherited. Thanks for taking us along.

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Ohhhh.

That is a Walther AC code may 44 production G43.
Has anybody stained and finished a nazi red glue and laminate birch stock on here?????

Suggestions needed!!!

Just being an azz guys....😁😁😁

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Originally Posted by kwg020
I have a Ranger 140 as well. I bought it in 1983 and still have it. It has an ugly yellow green stock as well. I believe I will learn to live with that color as I only have about 20 years left anyway. I won't have enough time left to get used to the blotchy mess you inherited. Thanks for taking us along.

kwg

I bought a factory color coated spray on blotchy mess.

This is my stained version of it now..😁😁😁
LOL!!!
Actually it has grain and highlights now compared to the factory job.
See how it turns out with a semi gloss finish..

I can struggle to make do with it till a Black walnut stock is obtained.

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I have a Husqvarna that came with a bright, shiny finish with a color I described as 'monkey schmidt yellow'. Lordy, I tried to live with that finish but just gagged every time I took it hunting. When I couldn't stand it any longer, I tried to strip the lacquer off but it resisted everything I put on it. So, I gave it to a friend to refinish. He got the factory finish off (which was a funny story by itself), and then put the reddish M1 Garand oil on it. It won't compare to walnut in any way, but at least it doesn't make me want to heave when I look at it now....

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That looks good man.
Did he use glass to shave off the finish or something else mechanical
How did he do the checkering?

He was having no luck with various paint removers the same as me and I had tried 3 different brands. Got pizzed of and mixed up a concoction of three different strong chemicals (he owns a cleaning service and has access to a lot of stuff) and painted it on the stock, then hung it from a hook in the ceiling of his shop. A few minutes later his dad said "You better catch that"! When he looked over, the finish was sliding down the stock in one piece! He grabbed a rag and held it under the stock and the finish folded itself onto the rag as it slid off. After that he just hit it with some paint remover to get the residue off, using a tooth brush on the checkering. Then put the oil they used on M1s for a finish. I'm tickled that he managed it because the rifle is super accurate, light (see scale in pic), and has one of the slickest actions I've ever worked. Don't know if I could have kept it much longer with that ugly factory finish though.

He and his dad still talk about the original finish sliding off looking liike an empty shell of the stock. He would never tell mell what chemicals he mixed up to get it off

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Originally Posted by Hook
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Originally Posted by Hook
I have a Husqvarna that came with a bright, shiny finish with a color I described as 'monkey schmidt yellow'. Lordy, I tried to live with that finish but just gagged every time I took it hunting. When I couldn't stand it any longer, I tried to strip the lacquer off but it resisted everything I put on it. So, I gave it to a friend to refinish. He got the factory finish off (which was a funny story by itself), and then put the reddish M1 Garand oil on it. It won't compare to walnut in any way, but at least it doesn't make me want to heave when I look at it now....

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

That looks good man.
Did he use glass to shave off the finish or something else mechanical
How did he do the checkering?

He was having no luck with various paint removers the same as me and I had tried 3 different brands. Got pizzed of and mixed up a concoction of three different strong chemicals (he owns a cleaning service and has access to a lot of stuff) and painted it on the stock, then hung it from a hook in the ceiling of his shop. A few minutes later his dad said "You better catch that"! When he looked over, the finish was sliding down the stock in one piece! He grabbed a rag and held it under the stock and the finish folded itself onto the rag as it slid off. After that he just hit it with some paint remover to get the residue off, using a tooth brush on the checkering. Then put the oil they used on M1s for a finish. I'm tickled that he managed it because the rifle is super accurate, light (see scale in pic), and has one of the slickest actions I've ever worked. Don't know if I could have kept it much longer with that ugly factory finish though.

He and his dad still talk about the original finish sliding off looking liike an empty shell of the stock. He would never tell mell what chemicals he mixed up to get it off

Gawd.....
I have heard nightmares about Browning Finishes also.

Last week slumlord broke out his 2 wally world brickseek weatherby,s ( Japanese Sako,s basically)in .243 and .308
Accurate as hell.
The factory finish on those black walnut stocks looked pretty nuclear bomb proof....

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Had a Mark X Mauser in the early 80's with wood that looks R50's shotgun.

Messed around with it off and on for a couple years (had no clue about anything much less stock finishing) finally hung it up with some all thread and took pops rosebud torch to it. Can't remember what paper I used after the fire but got it smooth again and smeared some sort of furniture finish on it. It looked so much better my hunting buddy thought I'd traded it for another one.

I do remember cleaning what passed for checkering up with a homemade tool. I'm sure that was a bubba mess.

Like R50, trial and error is my teacher along with the innanet now.

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Hook I have used a weird mixture of Hydrogen peroxide and cleaning ammonia that kills lots of stuff. And the user if you mix it with the wrong thing. But that has cut a lot of things for me. No guarantee it would do anything on that old plastic stock finish. That is a more than tolerable finish you have there. This stock Renegade 50 is doing is good that it is a temp. But I would be challenged, at this point, to install the walnut this winter then hit the old thing again. Be Well, RZ.


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I have used AquaFortis on maple, birch, and beech. It does the job.

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Originally Posted by renegade50
Ohhhh.

That is a Walther AC code may 44 production G43.
Has anybody stained and finished a nazi red glue and laminate birch stock on here?????

Suggestions needed!!!

Just being an azz guys....😁😁😁


What you need is wood conditioner to freshen up the look while preserving original finish. The product shown below works on traditional oil finished stocks but not on modern shiny weather resistant finishes. There are several shades to be matched to color on stock. In this case light would work out.......

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