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The monitoring found 3 bats had been killed during the monitoring period, one the endangered kind, and 52 birds including one bald eagle. Rest in pieces.... Here's the complaint forum. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...fo-please-contact-your-reps#Post15502656
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I find it world-class hilarious that the Greenies' favorite ox is getting gored by the tactics they invented. Irony is my favorite type of humor....... Who knows that a turbine actually killed it? Probably had rabies. Necropsy. Did it die OF rabies, or with rabies? Or maybe it was just a stupid bat? You know, like a dork. Flying around, till his buddies dare him to go near the red light? “I ain’t skeered of that light”. Smack! Does an autopsy identify if it was a dork bat?
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I don’t know if I should laugh or cry..... Our glorious USFWS at it’s best. “A” male bat is discovered dead on the site, and they shut down 175 wind turbines on 60,000 acres producing 400 MW of power. ONE dead bat on 60,000 acres..... The Feds. Coming soon to a business or project near you....... https://fws.gov/midwest/endangered/...20Memo%20and%20TAL%20Report_06152021.pdf“To avoid potential effects to the Indiana bat and northern long-eared bat, the TAL required feathering of all turbines below 6.9 meters-per-second (m/s) for 0.5 hour before sunset to 0.5 hour after sunrise when air temperatures were above 50°F from March 15 through October 31 based on the 10-minute rolling average at each individual turbine. Due to the fatality of a male Indiana bat at the Project in September 2020, Ameren voluntarily increased the avoidance measures to involve no operation of the turbines when temperatures were above 50°F starting on March 15, 2021. Another fatality was discovered on April 15, 2021; Ameren voluntarily stopped all nighttime operations starting on April 19, 2021, but continued post-construction monitoring under the TAL until the ITP was issued on May 14, 2021.“ Quick, call John Kerry!
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As slow as those things spin in comparison to a bats ability to pull some hellified flying maneuvers ....
Had to be some dumbazz bats with some fugged up bat sonar, radar, echo locating what the fugg ever they got to fly around and catch bugs.
Probably 2 retarded ones out of 10,s of thousands everynight around the area. Prop tip speed is around 120 in a 12 mph wind, to a max 180 mph.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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Maybe the bat was “as blind as a bat”. Or cell phone towers had messed up its radar. Or magnetic fields …..
Coulda been a short bus bat. Is there such a thing as “short bus bats”?
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Maybe the bat was “as blind as a bat”. Or cell phone towers had messed up its radar. Or magnetic fields …..
Coulda been a short bus bat. Is there such a thing as “short bus bats”? Hopefully its lifeless body didn't plummet into a bowl of Campbells and create the chain between beast and man's most deadly of viruses. (About 3/4 of America believed that fugkin' bullschit too)
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Pretty sure I know how to take them down now..... Wind towers? Yeah. Give them to the Texans. They could fugg anything up.
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Maybe the bat was “as blind as a bat”. Or cell phone towers had messed up its radar. Or magnetic fields …..
Coulda been a short bus bat. Is there such a thing as “short bus bats”? Hopefully its lifeless body didn't plummet into a bowl of Campbells and create the chain between beast and man's most deadly of viruses. (About 3/4 of America believed that fugkin' bullschit too) Truth of the story: they shut the wind farm down in order to construct a Campbell’s Soup factory. News at 11.
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You guys crack me up! Those interested to know more might look into the Biden people and how they scrapped Trump's Incidental Take interpretation of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act and how they're open for comment right now on how to do it "right."
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Maybe the bat was “as blind as a bat”. Or cell phone towers had messed up its radar. Or magnetic fields …..
Coulda been a short bus bat. Is there such a thing as “short bus bats”? Hopefully its lifeless body didn't plummet into a bowl of Campbells and create the chain between beast and man's most deadly of viruses. (About 3/4 of America believed that fugkin' bullschit too) Campbell's Cream of Pangolin.
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I find it world-class hilarious that the Greenies' favorite ox is getting gored by the tactics they invented. Irony is my favorite type of humor....... Who knows that a turbine actually killed it? Probably had rabies. Necropsy. Did it die OF rabies, or with rabies? Or maybe it was just a stupid bat? You know, like a dork. Flying around, till his buddies dare him to go near the red light? “I ain’t skeered of that light”. Smack! Does an autopsy identify if it was a dork bat? FIIK, just relaying what's in the source report you linked. LOL
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so much for covering the load for solar when the sun don't shine.
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Shiiit I was working in our attic, and I killed 3 of those MFers . I guess there will be no get together this year. I’ll probably be in prison!!!!
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Blame the greenies and their lawsuits, not the feds on this one.
I have been directly involved with several similar situations. There is a HELL of a lot more involved here than just some bat loving biologist. I guarantee it. The simple fact that there is a yearly "POST-CONSTRUCTION BAT MORTALITY MONITORING REPORT" tells me a lot about the situation and the documents that were generated to approve the project. I'm involved in a series of projects in northern Ohio right now where we get shut down for a few months of the bat breeding season every year. No lawsuits, no NEPA studies to get the projects approved, just a set of "guidelines" imposed by USFWS. They review and comment on our work plans for every project, and we pretty much have to do what they say with respect to the bats. If the windfarm is private surface than no NEPA would have been required, unless there was some sort of connected action. That is not what I am referring to anyhow. Either way a series of court decisions at some level had something to do with the stipulations or mitigation measures attached to the permit and the need for the ITP.
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Blame the greenies and their lawsuits, not the feds on this one.
I have been directly involved with several similar situations. There is a HELL of a lot more involved here than just some bat loving biologist. I guarantee it. The simple fact that there is a yearly "POST-CONSTRUCTION BAT MORTALITY MONITORING REPORT" tells me a lot about the situation and the documents that were generated to approve the project. I'm involved in a series of projects in northern Ohio right now where we get shut down for a few months of the bat breeding season every year. No lawsuits, no NEPA studies to get the projects approved, just a set of "guidelines" imposed by USFWS. They review and comment on our work plans for every project, and we pretty much have to do what they say with respect to the bats. If the windfarm is private surface than no NEPA would have been required, unless there was some sort of connected action. That is not what I am referring to anyhow. Either way a series of court decisions at some level had something to do with the stipulations or mitigation measures attached to the permit and the need for the ITP. Anticipated incidental take of an endangered species. If I done read it correctly.
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One of the farms we hunt has them. Our first day of this year hunt starts the last day of the shut down. When you are in the area the sound is crazy. The deer seem to be OK with them though.
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If they let the vegetation grow to about knee or thigh high, they wouldn’t be finding any dead bats🦇
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Blame the greenies and their lawsuits, not the feds on this one.
I have been directly involved with several similar situations. There is a HELL of a lot more involved here than just some bat loving biologist. I guarantee it. The simple fact that there is a yearly "POST-CONSTRUCTION BAT MORTALITY MONITORING REPORT" tells me a lot about the situation and the documents that were generated to approve the project. I'm involved in a series of projects in northern Ohio right now where we get shut down for a few months of the bat breeding season every year. No lawsuits, no NEPA studies to get the projects approved, just a set of "guidelines" imposed by USFWS. They review and comment on our work plans for every project, and we pretty much have to do what they say with respect to the bats. If the windfarm is private surface than no NEPA would have been required, unless there was some sort of connected action. That is not what I am referring to anyhow. Either way a series of court decisions at some level had something to do with the stipulations or mitigation measures attached to the permit and the need for the ITP. Anticipated incidental take of an endangered species. If I done read it correctly. Correct, but "take" doesn't necessarily mean kill. Harassment or some other form of distress on them as a result of the action can be constituted as "take", at least with other ITPs I have been involved with. I don't agree with it all, but it is what it is.
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Sounds like the bats had the double delta rona
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Blame the greenies and their lawsuits, not the feds on this one.
I have been directly involved with several similar situations. There is a HELL of a lot more involved here than just some bat loving biologist. I guarantee it. The simple fact that there is a yearly "POST-CONSTRUCTION BAT MORTALITY MONITORING REPORT" tells me a lot about the situation and the documents that were generated to approve the project. I'm involved in a series of projects in northern Ohio right now where we get shut down for a few months of the bat breeding season every year. No lawsuits, no NEPA studies to get the projects approved, just a set of "guidelines" imposed by USFWS. They review and comment on our work plans for every project, and we pretty much have to do what they say with respect to the bats. If the windfarm is private surface than no NEPA would have been required, unless there was some sort of connected action. That is not what I am referring to anyhow. Either way a series of court decisions at some level had something to do with the stipulations or mitigation measures attached to the permit and the need for the ITP. Anticipated incidental take of an endangered species. If I done read it correctly. Correct, but "take" doesn't necessarily mean kill. Harassment or some other form of distress on them as a result of the action can be constituted as "take", at least with other ITPs I have been involved with. I don't agree with it all, but it is what it is. Above my pay grade.... No agreement needed. Take is take. Warped application of the ESA or something akin to it...There's quite a body of evidence linking wind farms to flying critter death, bats included.... Not a strike in this case, some syndrome was noted in the report.... I'd suppose the area is within the known habitat of the ES? The farm had been recently acquired by the current firm. Possibly that's relevant. They'll run when they can. It appears to have many land owners. My interest is more in the monitoring protocol. Bunch of nonsense bound to give a credible enough report, per usual in the fish, feather and fur world.... Note, I previously worked for the firm that provided the report, albeit within another sector... I feel for anyone who has to associate with people! Trucking suits me better. LOL
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