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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Any 'vaccine' 100% effective or 100% free from potential side effects? No. Therefore, speaking in absolutes about it is inherently inaccurate. Could be 90% fuucking lethal, still ain't 100%. Over-generalize all you ya'll want, but, realize you're doing exactly that and it's blantently incorrect. No, I am not saying anything other than just written, plain and simple, opinion is opinion. Predictions of future events are simply that. Cheerios.


I never said it was lethal.

I said it does nothing for you. You will still get COVID. You will still transmit COVID. You may still die.

It even says so right on the side of the proverbial fugking label. You just have to read it.


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post hoc, ergo propter hoc...

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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer

That is your own opinion, that, that is the sole benefit, 100% protection, which is just your opinion.


Uhh, no. It is not opinion.

It doesn't protect you from schit. COVID kills a very, very small percentage of people that are vaccinated. And it kills a very, very small percentage of people that are not vaccinated.

You think it protects because you've been told it protects you by the guy selling it.

I've been told that by whom? No. It's not just death rate that concern me. Thanks for guessing, incorrectly, again. There's a possibility that some persons' opinion may influence mine on the potential value of the 'jab' buy a LEO's guesses is damned unlikely to sway. Good enough for Donald, good enough for me. LOL


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The way I understand it the efficacy of the jabs is symptom mitigation only...certainly not prevention or protection.


So the question is do you get the jab for the lessening of symptoms, or do you forgo the jab and suffer the misery.


All else is bullshit from turds with some agenda, from both sides.


It does not lessen symptoms.

That is 100% impossible to prove. The entire time it burned through without any form of vaccination, all we ever heard about was how some people had it bad and many didn't. Now you hear the same thing whether you're vaccinated or not.

There is no baseline to prove that assertion. It is 100%, bullschit.


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Originally Posted by deflave
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No, that is your opinion; it being your opinion doesn't make it wrong or right, no matter how strongly you may hold that opinion.


No.

It's not an opinion.

The people that make the fugking schit will tell you flat out, you will still get COVID, and you can still transmit COVID. That means it doesn't do a GD thing for you.

It is snake oil and nothing more.


Again, no. You may still get COVID, that doesn't mean you will and it doesn't mean "it doesn't do a GD thing for you." Your chances of getting and transmitting COVID appear to be much lower if you've had the jab. And even if you do get COVID, your symptoms are likely to be less severe. As far as I'm concerned, that means it has done some thing for me. Now, somewhere down the line I may encounter some problems from the vaccine, but on the face of it, your statement of opinion looks flawed. But then, you are like a number of umpires I have seen over the years: Frequently wrong (in my opinion), but never uncertain.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Any 'vaccine' 100% effective or 100% free from potential side effects? No. Therefore, speaking in absolutes about it is inherently inaccurate. Could be 90% fuucking lethal, still ain't 100%. Over-generalize all you ya'll want, but, realize you're doing exactly that and it's blantently incorrect. No, I am not saying anything other than just written, plain and simple, opinion is opinion. Predictions of future events are simply that. Cheerios.


I never said it was lethal.

I said it does nothing for you. You will still get COVID. You will still transmit COVID. You may still die.

It even says so right on the side of the proverbial fugking label. You just have to read it.

That's exactly what I mean. Your assumption is that there's no benefit unless it's 100% effective. That's the opinion part.


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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Any 'vaccine' 100% effective or 100% free from potential side effects? No. Therefore, speaking in absolutes about it is inherently inaccurate. Could be 90% fuucking lethal, still ain't 100%. Over-generalize all you ya'll want, but, realize you're doing exactly that and it's blantently incorrect. No, I am not saying anything other than just written, plain and simple, opinion is opinion. Predictions of future events are simply that. Cheerios.


As I understand this:
Vaccinated folk that contract the wuhan flu[any variant] have lessened symptoms and create little if any natural antibodies.

Natural antibodies are the primary route to 'herd immunity'

We needed to quarantine the vulnerable from the start and allow it to otherwise make the rounds to get shed[to some degree] of this wuhan flu


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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer

I've been told that by whom? No. It's not just death rate that concern me. Thanks for guessing, incorrectly, again. There's a possibility that some persons' opinion may influence mine on the potential value of the 'jab' buy a LEO's guesses is damned unlikely to sway. Good enough for Donald, good enough for me. LOL


Which brings us back to the thread title.


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Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Any 'vaccine' 100% effective or 100% free from potential side effects? No. Therefore, speaking in absolutes about it is inherently inaccurate. Could be 90% fuucking lethal, still ain't 100%. Over-generalize all you ya'll want, but, realize you're doing exactly that and it's blantently incorrect. No, I am not saying anything other than just written, plain and simple, opinion is opinion. Predictions of future events are simply that. Cheerios.


As I understand this:
Vaccinated folk that contract the wuhan flu[any variant] have lessened symptoms and create little if any natural antibodies.

Natural antibodies are the primary route to 'herd immunity'

We needed to quarantine the vulnerable from the start and allow it to otherwise make the rounds to get shed[to some degree] of this wuhan flu


The same doctors telling people the vaccine will protect them are the same doctors that said OxyContin wasn't addictive.

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Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Any 'vaccine' 100% effective or 100% free from potential side effects? No. Therefore, speaking in absolutes about it is inherently inaccurate. Could be 90% fuucking lethal, still ain't 100%. Over-generalize all you ya'll want, but, realize you're doing exactly that and it's blantently incorrect. No, I am not saying anything other than just written, plain and simple, opinion is opinion. Predictions of future events are simply that. Cheerios.


As I understand this:
Vaccinated folk that contract the wuhan flu[any variant] have lessened symptoms and create little if any natural antibodies.

Natural antibodies are the primary route to 'herd immunity'

We needed to quarantine the vulnerable from the start and allow it to otherwise make the rounds to get shed[to some degree] of this wuhan flu




The diminishing of antibodies is a major concern.


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'Flavis now is claiming full knowledge of muthetfuucking everything. Again. As the Campfire turns.

People disagree about stuff, in relative measures, all the time. Some can't seem to fathom their opinion is not held above one' s very own.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer

I've been told that by whom? No. It's not just death rate that concern me. Thanks for guessing, incorrectly, again. There's a possibility that some persons' opinion may influence mine on the potential value of the 'jab' buy a LEO's guesses is damned unlikely to sway. Good enough for Donald, good enough for me. LOL


Which brings us back to the thread title.

Attaboy.


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Please please quote more jew propaganda.... Kidding.

This is so plainly obviously unquestionably true....

“There is no medical or epidemiological justification for the Covid passport, it is only intended to pressure the unvaccinated to vaccinate.”
— Israeli Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz


Jew propaganda? Jews run the CDC so agreeing with them would be "Jew propaganda". It appears that the Jewish are on both sides of the coin.


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Yawn.......
Another C19 thread......



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Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Any 'vaccine' 100% effective or 100% free from potential side effects? No. Therefore, speaking in absolutes about it is inherently inaccurate. Could be 90% fuucking lethal, still ain't 100%. Over-generalize all you ya'll want, but, realize you're doing exactly that and it's blantently incorrect. No, I am not saying anything other than just written, plain and simple, opinion is opinion. Predictions of future events are simply that. Cheerios.


As I understand this:
Vaccinated folk that contract the wuhan flu[any variant] have lessened symptoms and create little if any natural antibodies.

Natural antibodies are the primary route to 'herd immunity'

We needed to quarantine the vulnerable from the start and allow it to otherwise make the rounds to get shed[to some degree] of this wuhan flu

You may want to start a conversation elsewhere as I am not sure what you have written has anything to do with what I have. I'm not justifying anything regarding what has happened, the response, or potential a solution. My statement is clear. People have opinions, opinions are not fact. Simply put, I don't agree nor disagree 100% about this Covid chit with either side nor any individual yet encountered


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Originally Posted by rickt300
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Please please quote more jew propaganda.... Kidding.

This is so plainly obviously unquestionably true....

“There is no medical or epidemiological justification for the Covid passport, it is only intended to pressure the unvaccinated to vaccinate.”
— Israeli Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz


Jew propaganda? Jews run the CDC so agreeing with them would be "Jew propaganda". It appears that the Jewish are on both sides of the coin.

That was satirical and directed at an individual who likely got it... As clearly indicated, I agree with the quote. You are welcome to show where I am in agreement with the CDC. Advocating for less nonsense, less hysteria and less promotion of opinion as fact has been my MO.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART


The way I understand it the efficacy of the jabs is symptom mitigation only...certainly not prevention or protection.


So the question is do you get the jab for the lessening of symptoms, or do you forgo the jab and suffer the misery.


All else is bullshit from turds with some agenda, from both sides.



Simply not true. Vaccination decreases the incidence and severity of COVID-19, and dramatically reduces the death rate. So there's that. Lots of anti-vaxxers urge others to get the shot while on their death bed. Don't be one of them.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Any 'vaccine' 100% effective or 100% free from potential side effects? No. Therefore, speaking in absolutes about it is inherently inaccurate. Could be 90% fuucking lethal, still ain't 100%. Over-generalize all you ya'll want, but, realize you're doing exactly that and it's blantently incorrect. No, I am not saying anything other than just written, plain and simple, opinion is opinion. Predictions of future events are simply that. Cheerios.


As I understand this:
Vaccinated folk that contract the wuhan flu[any variant] have lessened symptoms and create little if any natural antibodies.

Natural antibodies are the primary route to 'herd immunity'

We needed to quarantine the vulnerable from the start and allow it to otherwise make the rounds to get shed[to some degree] of this wuhan flu




The diminishing of antibodies is a major concern.


I'm at 19 months now.
Have been anything but cautious since[no masking etc], have continued this way throughout the delta summer.


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Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by JSTUART


The way I understand it the efficacy of the jabs is symptom mitigation only...certainly not prevention or protection.


So the question is do you get the jab for the lessening of symptoms, or do you forgo the jab and suffer the misery.


All else is bullshit from turds with some agenda, from both sides.



Simply not true. Vaccination decreases the incidence and severity of COVID-19, and dramatically reduces the death rate. So there's that. Lots of anti-vaxxers urge others to get the shot while on their death bed. Don't be one of them.


As stated prior in this thread- many who have had the wuhan flu had minor symptoms BEFORE the vaccination, has that changed in any way shape or form?


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