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But the glass is clear..... the adjustment may send the bullet who knows where?
I like fine glass in my binocular..... bino's don't steer bullets


I've gone YEARS without touching elevation or windage on Leupold scopes and they still hit the same exact spot on the intended target


Exactly right... don't touch them.... ever... if you do you will understand


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Four score and seven years ago. Chinese bots.


Below is a prime example of a Chinese bOt....sits around all.day waiting on the chance to bad mouth a Leupold svope.....even has some Chinese girl as his avatar.

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Not sure ā€œhateā€ is the right word. Disappointment, maybe, mixed with some irritation over how theyā€™ve let other companies overtake them and their steadfast refusal to acknowledge known problems with their products. A great warranty and glitzy advertising is no substitute for reliability. Their scopes have great features and specs, but many serious shooters have abandoned them because they canā€™t be counted on. Whether thatā€™s because of the design, the materials, or the lack of QC, I canā€™t say. I can say that I have a $900 VX-5HD that so far is working perfectly, with great glass, good clicks, and fine performance in low light, but the reticle has fuzz all over it thatā€™s distracting and it should never have left the factory like that.

Not going into what they should do, as thatā€™s been done to death. What Iā€™m doing is keeping the ones I have as long as they work, and will dump the ones that crap when they come back from the repair shop. Iā€™m not buying any new ones because I donā€™t want the hassle.


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I have some, donā€™t do any dialing, they work fine for me.


Same here. Just a short range hunter here.


A rifleman doesn't need to dial....dialing is for rifle punks.

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Originally Posted by LFC
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I have some, donā€™t do any dialing, they work fine for me.


Same here. Just a short range hunter here.


A rifleman doesn't need to dial....dialing is for rifle punks.


I guess you must sight-in with adjustable mounts, then



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Originally Posted by LFC
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Four score and seven years ago. Chinese bots.


Below is a prime example of a Chinese bOt....sits around all.day waiting on the chance to bad mouth a Leupold svope.....even has some Chinese girl as his avatar.

Originally Posted by Pappy348
Not sure ā€œhateā€ is the right word. Disappointment, maybe, mixed with some irritation over how theyā€™ve let other companies overtake them and their steadfast refusal to acknowledge known problems with their products. A great warranty and glitzy advertising is no substitute for reliability. Their scopes have great features and specs, but many serious shooters have abandoned them because they canā€™t be counted on. Whether thatā€™s because of the design, the materials, or the lack of QC, I canā€™t say. I can say that I have a $900 VX-5HD that so far is working perfectly, with great glass, good clicks, and fine performance in low light, but the reticle has fuzz all over it thatā€™s distracting and it should never have left the factory like that.

Not going into what they should do, as thatā€™s been done to death. What Iā€™m doing is keeping the ones I have as long as they work, and will dump the ones that crap when they come back from the repair shop. Iā€™m not buying any new ones because I donā€™t want the hassle.




What is a "svope"?



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Originally Posted by LFC
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I have some, donā€™t do any dialing, they work fine for me.


Same here. Just a short range hunter here.


A rifleman doesn't need to dial....dialing is for rifle punks.


You sure it's LFC? Sounds about two letters off on the first initial.



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And Amazingly Pretty Too !

Some interesting points have been brought forward here : inherent construction quality vs a warranty that is more like an marketing insurance investment policy.

I could start a thread about what happened to the B&L- Bushnell Elite 3000/4000, 3200/4200 series ?

For the price, they were pretty good scopes. Set & Forget yes, but good scopes. Not as light as the equivalent L scopes, but definitely not as pricy ! Ha. 3500/4500/6500 series meh

I think they are all playing catch-up compared to Nightforce


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50 on my settings.
So at least the thread is representative of Leupold adjustments.

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I thought you had me on ignore China scope bOy....thank God you guys learned to at least spell in skool.

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Tell the guys here how huge my cock is since you couldnā€™t stop watching. Crying laughing

You poor defenseless cĆ¼nt. Was less than 5 minutes and you are hooked up tugging the line.


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This guy wants you to tug his cock?


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One thing I hate about Leupold is how EVERYTHING they are putting out lately has the overrated CDS dials on them. I personally don't need the extra/added cost stuff on a hunting scope. I know of a few other people who feel this way as well.

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Originally Posted by Mach3
One thing I hate about Leupold is how EVERYTHING they are putting out lately has the overrated CDS dials on them. I personally don't need the extra/added cost stuff on a hunting scope. I know of a few other people who feel this way as well.

I'm with ya', man, but I guess there's a demand for it.

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Originally Posted by Mach3
One thing I hate about Leupold is how EVERYTHING they are putting out lately has the overrated CDS dials on them. I personally don't need the extra/added cost stuff on a hunting scope. I know of a few other people who feel this way as well.


It's a pain in the ass initially because it comes set to zero and if you need any -elevation at initial sight in, you have to take the cap off and reposition it so you can come down. Then when you're zeroed you have to take it off again and position it to zero. I just do that and leave it alone. Otherwise, it adjusts nicely with good solid clicks.

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Originally Posted by 10Glocks
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One thing I hate about Leupold is how EVERYTHING they are putting out lately has the overrated CDS dials on them. I personally don't need the extra/added cost stuff on a hunting scope. I know of a few other people who feel this way as well.


It's a pain in the ass initially because it comes set to zero and if you need any -elevation at initial sight in, you have to take the cap off and reposition it so you can come down. Then when you're zeroed you have to take it off again and position it to zero. I just do that and leave it alone. Otherwise, it adjusts nicely with good solid clicks.


I understand the concept, but I guess the way I zero my hunting rifles is different than many other people. The 25 yard zero theory has ALWAYS worked for me no matter the caliber. I would bet that most hunters don't understand or know about this.

Has anyone ever asked someone with the CDS dials if they have time to range a deer, switch to your rifle, dial for the correct yardage, and make a good shot at a fast moving or running deer?

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Originally Posted by Mach3


Has anyone ever asked someone with the CDS dials if they have time to range a deer, switch to your rifle, dial for the correct yardage, and make a good shot at a fast moving or running deer?


Your shooting analogy for a hunter using a turret scope, wouldnā€™t be any different that you holding a set/forget scope.

A turret scope is zeroed also, right ? at whatever ~ 100 yard, 200 yards, same as a static scope.

Running shots, would be taken and made exactly the same way one would make with a non-dialing scope based off the scopes zero....No dialing.

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Originally Posted by Mach3


Has anyone ever asked someone with the CDS dials if they have time to range a deer, switch to your rifle, dial for the correct yardage, and make a good shot at a fast moving or running deer?


Your shooting analogy for a hunter using a turret scope, wouldnā€™t be any different that you holding a set/forget scope.

A turret scope is zeroed also, right ? at whatever ~ 100 yard, 200 yards, same as a static scope.

Running shots, would be taken and made exactly the same way one would make with a non-dialing scope based off the scopes zero....No dialing.

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I've done it on a trotting coyote at an estimated 230 yards with our very own Kamo gari sitting in the truck beside me and a few other fire members present as we were leaving a pasture on an antelope hunt. estimated range (at that distance there's a pretty decent margin of error) put truck in park, bailed out, dialed as I set the rifle across the hood and bangflop. Probably happened in 3 seconds or so. .308 and 168 VLDs. not much difference in outcome if my scope was zeroed as Beav mentioned. I've also shot running antelope with a .223 that was zeroed at 200 yards and the range was about 180.

The scope was a Nikon though, not a Leupold at the time, I've since switched to a leupy mkIV on it. I suspect the results would have been the same though brand aside. I had masking tape with ranges marked on it with a felt tip pen, not a fancy CDS wink


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Originally Posted by 10Glocks
Originally Posted by Mach3
One thing I hate about Leupold is how EVERYTHING they are putting out lately has the overrated CDS dials on them. I personally don't need the extra/added cost stuff on a hunting scope. I know of a few other people who feel this way as well.


It's a pain in the ass initially because it comes set to zero and if you need any -elevation at initial sight in, you have to take the cap off and reposition it so you can come down. Then when you're zeroed you have to take it off again and position it to zero. I just do that and leave it alone. Otherwise, it adjusts nicely with good solid clicks.


Sometimes I think it would've been a better move for Leupold to double down on the svelt, lightweight, 1" set it and forget it market than to try to keep up with the turret twisting market that has clearly passed them by. At the very least, they should've done a major redesign on their mechanicals instead of just putting an exposed turret on their old erector design that was notorious for inconsistent adjustment even while just trying to sight in.

By and large, there's a lot of people who don't twist turrets who are happy with their Leupolds. I still have them on levers, pumps, and other "woods" rifles and they've given decent service in that capacity. I danced the Leupold shuffle getting them sighted in, but once sighted in they seem to do ok for awhile. Where they unraveled for me was VX-3 and VX-5 CDS's I had that wouldn't track consistently and or return to zero after twisting on.

Now, with all of the companies getting out of the scope business and or discontinuing their tried and true 1" offerings that a lot of us are still looking to buy, I think a niche exists, and Leupold would be well positioned to fill it.

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