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When Jesus told the woman to go and "sin no more" and the Apostle Paul told the church " You are responsible for your own salvation", these two instances might put a little crimp into the idea of permanency. And to answer the 3:16 folks, better look real close at 3:5.

Here's the verse and context.

John 3:3-7
"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."

First birth = flesh = from the water of the mothers womb
Born of the mother is her baby.

Born again = Spirit is spirit = spiritual birth

How this occurs is 15-18
Note that verse 18 does not mention faith in baptism.
Who must one believe in order to be saved from the condemnation?

"That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Believe it or not my friend, this term is used exactly 100 times in this gospel alone.

Who must one believe in order to be saved from the condemnation?

John 3:5 is often misinterpreted to mean that baptism is required for salvation. It isn't. Faith alone is all that's required.

And John 3:36.

For those that think that one can lose their salvation, a question. How many sins does it take?

My salvation is not temporary. I cannot lose my salvation. I can, however, reject Jesus Christ with my heart and my actions at any point of my journey. To live an apostate life contrary to His truth is not saved nor safe.

Isaiah 1:18-19 and John 15:13-14 go hand in hand. You must believe and obey.

Faith is not intellectual assent or verbal acquiescence alone. Faith is belief so strong it demands obedience. Faith without works is dead.

Ephesians 5:3-7 sheds light on who has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. It names all manner of sins and sinners.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 also gives a detailed list of sinners who will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 21:8 gives yet another detailed list of people going to hell for their sins.

The people listed are lost even if professing Christ, even if they are baptized. Too many people are teaching that no one claiming Christ will die lost. That’s untrue. If you claim Christ with your mouth and hell with your life, He will judge accordingly.

Matthew 7:15-23 is spoken for the church. Notice Jesus said many will come professing Him and He will deny having ever known them. Jesus said this. He knows more than all of us.

To tell people that no sin they ever commit will lead to damnation is treacherous, especially considering Scripture clearly spells out the exact opposite.

I love Jesus Christ! He is the Lord of my life! I don’t believe He will ever discard me for a mistake. But He will judge me according to His Word if I reject Him and live in rebellion and apostasy.

Rebellion and apostasy will be judged, even if that person professes Christ.

I hope no one reading this will ever stand before God having lived a life He said is damned just because you found someone that told you otherwise.

I’m afraid for all of the false doctrine used to soothe people the Holy Spirit is trying to convict.

May we all be found worthy at His appearing.

Mine was permanent from the day I was created..................PERIOD!!!!


But of course it depends on your definition of salvation. That word is the feminine derivative of the word Saviour or deliverer. Nothing more, nothing less. All other definitions applied are man's/religions interpretation. It is used to create fear so one will follow whatever course religion says to follow. All negative shadowy entities use fear to control and manipulate the masses. Works quite well.

those Jews tell a good story don't they?

I'm washed in the blood of Jesus .
That is God's covenant, and, last I heard, He keeps His word.

Saved from what?