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What a bunch of dumbasses.

One good example for sure.

Did Rush ever mention religion and politics are best not mixed together?

The Center is, and always has been, the key to winning elections, especially on a National level.

Trump proved it.

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Did Rush ever mention religion and politics are best not mixed together?

The Center is, and always has been, the key to winning elections, especially on a National level.

Trump proved it.
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As far as I know Rush never embraced the idea of religion, ie. religious people, being excluded from politics. In fact he often spoke of the founders belief in God as being one of their most important attributes. He also shot down the leftist idea of separation of church and state. When many in the republican party were claiming the issue of abortion needed to be cast aside he came to the defense of the unborn. I'm sure there's a transcript of that.

I would argue that Trump was not at all a centrist. He went beyond what anyone ever had done in regard to taking things away from the center. Bush was way more center than Trump. Trump may not have acted as a conservative before being elected but he did more to further that cause than anyone since Reagan. He was and still is a national treasure as far as I'm concerned.

LOL

For somebody as old as you, you have a lot to learn.

Was Trump a swing towards center?

I never thought so personally.

Trump swung toward the conservative side when he became a politician.
He showed little sing of being much of anything before that.
Just Pro-American.
Fiscally, was he conservative?
He was pro business, against high taxes.
But what about conservative in spending?

During 2015 to current, DJT has been more Right than ever before. He capitalized on it and made it his. God bless him for doing so. He has good council on what the Right wants and loves to piss off the rest.



But, I never intentionally listened to talk radio...

TDS

For those that blame Christian values as being why the democrats are in power should read this. https://news.iheart.com/featured/ru...ng-reaction-to-my-monologue-on-abortion/

Also here is a quote from Rush Limbaugh's monologue dated 1/29/2019. "Let me tell you something. If we're not willing to stand up for life, what the hell else are we gonna be able to have any value in?" This is part of what he was saying about the republican party abandoning the values of the Right.

Many of you on this site seem to hate anything that comes under the heading of religious values but guess what, you share them with us. As I read what's said on here I can't understand why on earth you'd want to throw God under the bus, especially now. Yes I know of church history and watched with just as much disgust as you when the big names in that leadership have done what we would never do. They are wolves in sheep's clothing and have nothing to do with being genuine advocates for God. In fact they are the exact opposite. Do you fellows think that many Christians are in favor of gun control? Very few I have ever known feel that way and I'd have to think long and hard to name them. Trying to find a candidate that fits into the "center" will only lead to another democrat in office. Romney and Mccain were "center" or moderates at best. They are absolute failures. Trump won because he appealed to the core values of decent Americans. Those people, whether they know it or not, reside on the Right!

Thanks Jim, I only listened to Rush occasionally. Was usually at work during his broadcasts and not near a radio.

Nowhere did I argue Trump was a centrist. He did, in fact bring the center with him for his election. A lot of folks in the center, hurt economically by the Obama years, and some perhaps having their eyes opened by "Obamacare", and many having seen what Hillary was, voted for The Donald.

By restarting the American economy he did not take things away from the center, he gave them back many things which had drifted too, too far to the left.

Looking at the Dem party being split by the friction between the "Progressives" (you can read that as Socialist/Communist) is opening the eyes of many in the Center again. Biden's mandates, also taken up by big business, have a lot of folks upset about having to do something they disagree with in order to keep their jobs. I look for a big swing in the 2022 Midterms. The Center is not happy.






Honestly, do you think a National Election can be won without the candidate getting the vote of the "centrists"? Notwithstanding election rigging of course.

And I'm always learning.




Trump was/is a non-politician businessman. Who knows how to "win", especially for himself and family. And that appealed to a lot of centrist type folks as they saw Hillary as the politician she is. His platform in 2016 pulled the Center towards him. And it didn't hurt that the "Far Right" wanted to see many of the same things the Center wanted instituted by The Donald, especially SCOTUS appointments.

I know more than a couple of Centrist types that held their noses and pulled the lever for Trump because he sometimes (many times) acted like a DICK, but they turned out to be happy with the results.

One cannot argue with the bell curve of demographics. The majority of votes are in the center. Will always be that way.

If I understand you correctly, you've never been to Minnesota?

You're welcome. I wasn't aiming at you in my comment about arguing Trump not being a centrist. It was for all who have claimed that. I don't believe in the "center" though. The left keeps going their merry way into the arms of socialism. Someday soon enough they will be all out communist. That moves those that think they're in the center one way or the other. Just look at it this way. If JFK were alive today some of his ideas would be hated by his democrat counterparts. Not that I have any love for him but it just is a yard stick for where they have gotten to. The Right really has no where to go unless they move closer to the leftist policies and that's what has been done with people like Mccain, Romney, Ryan and McConnel. These people are why the left is able to keep going where they're headed. If you want a ship to stay put in a storm you don't keep moving the anchor.

I bet there that there are a lot less centrist today than what there was up until the 80’s and 90’s. Regan was Governor of CA and then won nearly every state during his presidential campaign. No way would that be possible today.

Where we’re at today roughly half of the voting population is going to vote blue no matter how bad the candidate is because it’s still in their mind better than and better represents their vision for the future of America than the best red candidate. Same thing on the right. Winning campaigns today is less about convincing some rare undecided swing voter and more about mobilizing and firing up the less passionate members of a candidates already established base. The person that is already decided IF they vote is going to vote one way or the other but doesn’t bother to vote at all half of the time. The message to motivate someone like that isn’t necessarily a message to the middle (see Romney and McCain) Trump fired up and got out to vote the people that were already going to for him if they voted at all. There are few and far between undecided middle voters today IMO. The left with the propaganda wing and establishment RINOs ect were able to work up enough of the left to also come out in record numbers for a candidate no one liked but because they were convinced that Trump was evil and a threat to America. In fact he was a threat to the deep state.

Valsdad,

You don’t know what a “centrist” is.

Trump sctually did get many former Democrat votes.

Some were attributal to Trump,
Some to Hillary.

She and Obama were enough to wake up some democrats, and
allow them to see the truth.

Will the Merriam-Webster definition work for you?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/centrist







Maybe the Urban dictionary version suits you?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Centrist



If those don't work, please enlighten us with your never ending, incalculable wisdom.

this pretty much mirrors my thinking...people didnt like trump but hated hillary......people didnt like biden but hated trump......if its the computers than just dems will win in the midterms.....if the repukes win....well?....bob

That is an undisputed fact, and they bring their less than conservative ways with them when they flee communism. Not unlike the one's migrating to conservative areas from liberal.

There goes the neighborhood.

But that is evolution.

Given that they "bring their less than conservative ways with them ",

would you have preferred they had voted for Hillary instead?