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Why do I think that the "thing" that they hit was a PRC sub. Ever read the book "Blind Man's Bluff"?
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Wonder where the skipper is working next year?
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Very interesting the way they use the word "object".
What object would an attack sub be in close proximity with?
Another sub I would speculate.
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Back in the day there was probably just as much running into uncharted underwater mountains as colliding with rooskies you were snooping on. Mountains have a lot less give than another sub. No idea what capabilities exist to avoid such these days if any.
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I thought that was what the phugg radar was for?
Hell they got a bass boats that will print you pictures... geeeeez
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Why do I think that the "thing" that they hit was a PRC sub. Ever read the book "Blind Man's Bluff"? This
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Why do I think that the "thing" that they hit was a PRC sub. Ever read the book "Blind Man's Bluff"? No. Give us a quick Cliff's notes version of it.
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Why do I think that the "thing" that they hit was a PRC sub. Ever read the book "Blind Man's Bluff"? No. Give us a quick Cliff's notes version of it. It's about all the "games" the US and Soviet subs played with each other up north in the Barents Sea, up to and including running into each other.
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In answer to the OP, apparently not. 😂
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I thought that was what the phugg radar was for?
Hell they got a bass boats that will print you pictures... geeeeez Radar doesn't work in water. You're thinking of sonar. Subs very rarely use active sonar (pinging). They rely on passively listening. If you ping, everyone knows you're there.
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No radar when your running silent stalking another sub. All off to avoid detection. Navigation by charts, speed, depth, bearing and time.
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I thought that was what the phugg radar was for?
Hell they got a bass boats that will print you pictures... geeeeez Radar doesn't work in water. You're thinking of sonar. Subs very rarely use active sonar (pinging). They rely on passively listening. If you ping, everyone knows you're there. So sub warfare is bumper cars.
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Another rumor is the sub hit a shipping container that hadn't fully sank. Lots of containers litter the ocean floor between China and the West coast.
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Another rumor is the sub hit a shipping container that hadn't fully sank. Lots of containers litter the ocean floor between China and the West coast. Tubullar self-propelled shipping container......
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A transgender, homo, or female was at the helm, no doubt.
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I have the idea that there won't be many recriminations over this. The skipper was just being aggressive and stuff happens. The sub didn't appear to have much damage.
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A transgender, homo, or female was at the helm, no doubt. Disparaging whomever was at the helm. With which unit did you serve?
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