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So you said it yourself.... the politicians will decide who the schmucks are. Not common sense..... not science.... not economics.... not the market..... the POLITICIAN's will decide who the Schmucks will be. Don't be a pawn on their chess board ..... live free or die.

Gasoline all the way.

Ever price one of those hybrid batteries?
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That’s wonderful patriotic tough guy rhetoric and it sounds like we basically agree. So, what would you choose - gas or horse & buggy?

I've had my 2020 Ram 1/2T Ecodiesel 4x4 over a year now and really like it. Time will tell how it holds up but so far it's been great. This was on flat ground, no wind to help or hurt.

Yeah, that sucks but spending $3-5k on a replacement battery to keep a 10 year old truck viable may be a much better situation than being stuck with a strictly gasoline engine vehicle in 2035.

I priced these in May of 2020 and the hybrid was less than $1,000 more than a gas burner. IIRC, more like $500 premium. I was leaning that route but we decided the 3rd row was too small and went with another brand all together.

The internal combustion engine of any flavor isn’t going to be obsolete in my lifetime and I’m young compared to most of you fellas.

Today's Tundra is not even comparable to the first gen in 2003. And I haven't seen the latest version obviously.

I'm staying in a gas burner for now, but I think in 4-5 years, I would consider a hybrid truck. Anxious to see the new Tundra numbers in the real world.

I'd definitely consider a hybrid SUV or car now for the wife.

If one really wants to go somewhere, stick with fossil fuel.

Green new deal is going to fail. They want electric everything. Except, no coal,no natural gas,no nukes, and no new mines. Stick with gas. I would wait on any brand new model. New tundra included.

Here is my take.

1) Electric, Tesla is coming out with their 500 mile range pickup truck in 2022. Made in Texas. If you are worried about charging, Tesla has others beat hands down. Their charging stations, nationwide following the interstate system can charge you in 45 minutes. A test between an electric Model S Tesla, a Ford Mustang Electric, and a gasoline Audi. 1,000 miles, all using the same route. The Audi made it in 18.5 hours. The Tesla in 20 hours, and the Electric Ford Mustang, in 28 hours. Ford had a problem charging and had to stop overnight to charge. Tesla took two 45 minute charges, thus the hour and a half behind Audi. All had to go the speed limit. Tesla also comes with 3 ways to charge. 110 volts in 8 hours, 220 volts in 3 hours, or their charging stations in 45 minutes. I think their charging stations use 440 volts.

2) Hybrid. This would get you better gas mileage, and the batteries usually last 8-10 years.

3) Gasoline. Gas is right now cheaper than diesel, but prices are rising fast. Just saw American Crude at $80 a barrel.

4) Diesel, more expensive than a gas user. Diesel is higher priced now with "clean diesel". Both gas and diesel will be over $5 a gallon before Joe is out of office.

I would either buy an electric Tesla when they come out with the extended range batteries or buy a Ford Hybrid. Both will be about the same price. Tesla's have to be ordered on the internet, and a small deposit made. You may have to wait about 2 years to get one. Also, Tesla is now the world's largest vehicle corporation by value. You also don't get a tax credit anymore because they exceed 100,000 vehicles being mad a year. The first 100,000 electric vehicles made get a tax credit no mater who makes them. At least it used to be 100,000 vehicles.

Discussing mileage with electric vehicles is a waste of time. The fact is, the heavier the load the shorter the range is going to be with electric cars, just like gas or diesel vehicles. If you really use your truck the way it was intended there would be no consideration of electric unless you want to stop what you are doing iin the middle of something like hunting, fishing, hauling a load of stuff or moving to another location and wait 45 minutes, or a couple hours, or overnight to charge your vehicle to complete your project- maybe even a couple times a day.... whereas with a gas vehicle, a couple minute stop at any gas station and you're on your way..

On top of that, building enough electric vehicles to meet the government wet dreams these morons propose is a physical impossibility. There aren't enough exotic materials being produced on earth to meet the demand. The electric grid isn't designed at the community and neighborhood level to charge more than a couple cars per block at the same time. And producing these vehicles is so carbon backwards moving it makes gas vehicles look like an intel clean room... Heck, you can't even get vehicles to market now due to lack of chips...

Bob

Do what you like but here 90-odd% go diesel.

Gas half ton all the way.

Electrics aren’t going to dominate for a long time and not until there’s a breakthrough in battery technology. Right now they’re just expensive toys, not even close to being ready for prime time.

The EPA has made diesels too costly to own.

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Do they force you to pump cow urine(def) into a separate tank for emission control like they do here. That was enough for me, back to gas here, 2021 Toyota Four Runner. Had a Ford Super Duty 4x4 with the 7.3 Power Stroke diesel.

What's the point when you cant roll coal?

They do use adblue (pig piss) on a number of new diesels, but Toyota utilises a burn off instead.


As to the pig piss, I am thinking some political prick owns a piggery.

Buy a diesel, haul ass!