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When you take into account Service Hours, and the proportion of which is actual driving time. Traffic and other job related time not driving.... loading , off loading, finding a load. and the simple fact that most drivers don't make a career out of it. You'd start to under stand why mileage doesn't add up all that fast necessarily.

Then believe it or not most driving jobs are not just driving. In my case I would maybe work 14 to 16 hours or more, and might only drive 200 or 300 that day. But that would be taking machines apart, loading, delivering, off loading then placing and reassembling the machines. Then again some day's i might drive the limit. Hell some day's I could stay within a 100 mile radius an do 2,3, or 4 separate jobs and still drive some 600 miles, Other day's I might be operating equipment and not do any driving at all.

But did that pretty regularly for some 45 years.

Phil

When you take into account Service Hours, and the proportion of which is actual driving time. Traffic and other job related time not driving.... loading , off loading, finding a load. and the simple fact that most drivers don't make a career out of it. You'd start to under stand why mileage doesn't add up all that fast necessarily.

Then believe it or not most driving jobs are not just driving. In my case I would maybe work 14 to 16 hours or more, and might only drive 200 or 300 that day. But that would be taking machines apart, loading, delivering, off loading then placing and reassembling the machines. Then again some day's i might drive the limit. Hell some day's I could stay within a 100 mile radius an do 2,3, or 4 separate jobs and still drive some 600 miles, Other day's I might be operating equipment and not do any driving at all.

But did that pretty regularly for some 45 years.

Phil

That's amusing. I had one driver do 2850 miles this week. Started work on Wednesday at 5 AM, came home this morning at 7 AM. He could have made it this morning at 1, but he prefers to not drive at night (and I prefer that, too).

Last week was the same. Next week will be the same. Every mile legal, electronic log books. Two live loads, three drops (Portland, Ontario and Seattle) on the first load, five drops (Las Vegas) on the second.

That truck is three years and three months old and has 387,000 miles on it, all by the same driver. That driver is now at a million miles, within a few miles, anyway, and he's been driving for 7 years.

In other words, a non union driver does in about 1/3rd of the time what a union driver does. I certainly appreciate your testimony to illustrate that point.

Dutch,
Been out of the game awhile.
But back in the day Big R and ABF drivers ran right around
2800-3100/week. Depending on bid and boards and all tgat crap.

The union card didn't slow them down.
Darn sure didn't hurt their pocketbook at about 25% above non union.

Would have went there, but the unions aren't nice to new drivers.
And I wasn't going to play their games. Plus, I was 100 mikes from
any big terminal.

So you weren't a truck driver, you just drove a truck as part of your main job.

Nobody said they couldn't, but how many are going to do that every week and make a life long career out of it... its a very, very small percentage. And yes running a team you can pile up mileage on trucks, and run them to death. Most won't last 10 years... and those that people want to keep repairing aren't going to get the good paying jobs. And as far as your union BS assumption again you don't know what the hell you are talking about. I won't go over the various speed limits, I know Oregon just raised theirs, Washington I'm not up to date on, and as I'm retired now couldn't care less!

Also Diesel on state averages is about $1.10 higher in California than other states not $2.00 in fact the difference between the lowest and the highest is about $1.17 a gallon higher, and while fuel tax is part of the difference. We know you all don't want to compare the miles of roadway in the various states.


Phil

So in summary we have regulated our selves to death.

Nobody said they couldn't, but how many are going to do that every week and make a life long career out of it... its a very, very small percentage. And yes running a team you can pile up mileage on trucks, and run them to death. Most won't last 10 years... and those that people want to keep repairing aren't going to get the good paying jobs. And as far as your union BS assumption again you don't know what the hell you are talking about. I won't go over the various speed limits, I know Oregon just raised theirs, Washington I'm not up to date on, and as I'm retired now couldn't care less!

Also Diesel on state averages is about $1.10 higher in California than other states not $2.00 in fact the difference between the lowest and the highest is about $1.17 a gallon higher, and while fuel tax is part of the difference. We know you all don't want to compare the miles of roadway in the various states.


Phil

People like Phil, as a wise man once said... are always wrong but never in doubt.... they go through life this way, amazing

As I said you dumb [bleep] don't know what the hell you are talking about. The drayage regulations only involved trucks actually entering the ports themselves. But it also involved every aspect of the ports and all the personnel working in the ports. Nobody could enter the ports without their TWIC card period and that was a federal security investigation clearance of everyone including all truck drivers. Few that applied were actually cleared. And it was strict and easy to loose the privilege's.

The OP was asking about California restrictions.

The ports newer requirements were put into place after 11 Sep, 2001, these are the requirements on the drivers themselves. But it also involved all the ships to, any ship in port had to completely shut down and go on dock power. They could no longer run their engines while docked.

But that also brings up the trucks no idle laws, and I don't remember when that was put into place right off, late 90's if I remember right.

As to your all's stupid remarks about those 3 law changes I mentioned. you all are some really dumb [bleep]! Most of you couldn't hold a CDL for 2 weeks, much less depend on one for your living....

Up until I retired I held every class license the state had including every hazmat and emergency response certification they offered so go [bleep] your selves.


Phil