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Hats off to Oldmanofthesea for finding the parallel between Biden and Clement Attlee. The current Democrat Party is plunging headlong into the same agenda the Attlee and his Labour Party took Great Britain into after WW II. Like 1945, we are emerging from a tumultuous period of world history that has caused significant world change. Both have caused major reorganization in economies and social structure. Clement Attlee put into motion the Socialization of Britain, and Biden/Pelosi/Schumer are hell bent to do the same hear. First , the inspired quote from our own member: Is it named AMEE???
that one didn't work out so well! close, probably Atlee after UKs post WWII Socialist Prime Minister.. they had lots of shortages back then too. Yes, none other than the post War leader of Great Britain - Clement Attlee! Attlee was a socialist/Labour leader of Great Britain from the end of WW II to 1951. The Brits (incredibly) dumped Churchill at the end of the war jumping to the idea of socialism and give-a-ways. In reviewing Attlee, I find an eerie parallel to today's Democrat Party in America and the Biden administration. For those interested in a little history lesson and enlightenment, I've put together little comparison. Those with short attention spans or no interest in such, please just move along. Once again, I thank Oldmanofthesea for making the connection. He is inspired! First, let's look at quotes by Attlee and see if you find them in today's American Democrat.
When we are returned to power we want to put in the statute book an act which will make our people citizens of the world before they are citizens of this country.We have absolutely abandoned any idea of nationalist loyalty. We are deliberately putting a world order before loyalty to our own country.Winston Churchill - fifty per cent genius, fifty per cent bloody fool.Fifty percent of Winston is genius, fifty percent bloody fool. He will behave like a child.
(I can see a Progressive saying the same of Trump as a nod to his effectiveness, and a knock on his style)The real test of one's belief in the doctrine of Habeas Corpus is not when one demands its application on behalf of one's friends but of one's enemies.(Gitmo, anyone??)It is dangerous to play politics with the Budget.
(Hear that, Pelosi?) For a deeper look into what Attlee and his Party did to Socialize Great Britain let's take a look at Attlee's agenda as the Socialist PM of Britain 1945-51. Can you find the parallels between his admin and Biden's? (from Wiki) Domestic policy
The Attlee government was committed to rebuilding British society as an ethical commonwealth, using public ownership and controls to abolish extremes of wealth and poverty.
Wokeism and wealth redistribution.
Healthcare
NHS. This was a publicly funded healthcare system, which offered treatment free of charge for all at the point of use.
Obamacare and Medicare for all
Welfare
The government set about implementing the wartime plans of Liberal William Beveridge for the creation of a "cradle to grave" welfare state.
Universal income, high minimum wage
Housing
The Attlee government also extended the powers of local authorities to requisition houses and parts of houses, and made the acquisition of land less difficult than before.[97] The Housing (Scotland) Act 1949 provided grants of 75 per cent (87.5 per cent in the Highlands and Islands) towards modernisation costs payable by Treasury to local authorities.[98]
In 1949, local authorities were empowered to provide people suffering from poor health with public housing at subsidised rents.[99]
Can't evict for non rent payment. Homeless takeover of cities
Women and children
A number of reforms were embarked upon to improve conditions for women and children. In 1946, universal family allowances were introduced to provide financial support to households for raising children.
Extended family leave and universal child care
Workers' rights
Various measures were carried out to improve conditions in the workplace. Entitlement to sick leave was greatly extended, and sick pay schemes were introduced for local authority administrative, professional and technical workers in 1946 and for various categories of manual workers in 1948.[113] Worker's compensation was also significantly improved.[114]
Education
The Attlee government ensured provisions of the Education Act 1944 were fully implemented, with free secondary education becoming a right for the first time. Fees in state grammar schools were eliminated, while new, modern secondary schools were constructed.[147]
The school leaving age was raised to 15 in 1947, an accomplishment helped brought into fruition by initiatives such as the HORSA ("Huts Operation for Raising the School-leaving Age") scheme and the S.F.O.R.S.A. (furniture) scheme.[148] University scholarships were introduced to ensure that no one who was qualified "should be deprived of a university education for financial reasons,"
(Free college, forgive student loans??)
Energy
1947 proved a particularly difficult year for the government; an exceptionally cold winter that year caused coal mines to freeze and cease production, creating widespread power cuts and food shortages. The Minister of Fuel and Power, Emanuel Shinwell was widely blamed for failing to ensure adequate coal stocks, and soon resigned from his post.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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WW2 UK fought National Socialists, then after aid from the US to defeat that ideology, decided to emulate them.
Cold War for 50 years, After the fall of the Iron Curtain, the Dem party decides to emulate the USSR.
The last few years with leftist crying "Putin! Russia!", always confused me: aren't they trying to implement Soviet policies and Putin-style dictatorial powers here? "Don't question the Party mandates. Just be an obedient citizen."
Don't forget the lefts current favorite "Democracy is at stake!" Yeah right, The USSR was technically a democracy too.
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Methinks the government 'leaders' see what other national leaders get away with, and crave that power for themselves, so they push the boundaries even further.
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Methinks the government 'leaders' see what other national leaders get away with, and crave that power for themselves, so they push the boundaries even further. To be certain. There are very few that are visionaries. Most are only able to cut and paste from someone else.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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For big govt types the common denominator is always power, control and privilege for them and subservience for you. They change the names to fool the masses, but the basics remain the same; they con you to take control of your life and assets.
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Did you servive Obama?
Seriously, did America die? Did anyone out there prosper at all 2008-2014? .
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personally my take on the Putin villanization is that the USSR failed due to communisim and the Union of Russian and other former soviet states (CIS) have managed to rapidly climb back from their horrible situation in the 1990s to a fairly prosperous nation by dumping the planned economy in favor of free market system..
back to e end of Hatari's write up
To help understand how the people of the UK could make such an about face remember this:
The communists infiltrated the British education system in the 1930s. the indoctrinated thousand and these led to the likes of Kim Philby, Burgess, and Mclean who all made their way into the diplomacy/intelligence services to spy for the communists. But in their way there they worked in the media and hobnobbed with wealthy and idle communist sympathizers among the British Elite, and travelled abroad working with socialist groups in Spain and Vienna..
The communists also infiltrated industrial labor (as they did in the U.S.) and promoted unionization and communism. The Welsh coal mines were one of their success stories in winning over labor. But they never would have gotten anywhere were it not for wealthy layabout socialist sympathizers who, as in the U.S., work on the "rules for thee and not for me" approach to laws and taxes.
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The US, like the Brits before us, the Spanish before them, Romans, Greeks, etc ALL went inexorably to their demise, or at least mediocrity. Yes, things are a bit different every time and our demise is coming from within, but let there be no doubt we ain't coming back from this one..
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All left the stage from a combination of hubris, foreign ideas and people, disastrous foreign expeditions, and lose monetary policy and debt.
It doesn’t have to be a terrible thing. There is little doubt that in the immediate aftermath of the Western Roman Empire the average people were actually much better off under the various barbarian kingdoms which were hardly barbarian at all. Mostly they were so romanized as to lay claim to vestiges of Roman authority themselves or on behalf of the emperor in Constantinople and the people didn’t even really realize things were different...except for their much lower tax burden.
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For a deeper look into what Attlee and his Party did to Socialize Great Britain let's
take a look at Attlee's agenda as the Socialist PM of Britain 1945-51.
Can you find the parallels between his admin and Biden's? The parallels are not a surprise and neither is that Churchill returned to power after the Britains saw the folly that Attlee tried to pull. Alas, the great wartime leader was in decline at that point and there was little he could do domestically to fix it. It's interesting to note that Britain also faced a legitimate, and significant, post-war labor shortage after 450K military and 70K civilians were killed during the war. Virtually all the military, and a goodly chunk of the civilians, being of working age. Now the US faces a worker shortage due to government actions and a general "don't wanna work" malaise that is spreading across multiple generations but is centered on the ages where they should be focused on building skills, careers and work relationships. From 55-79 the PM's, both Labor and Conservative merely, presided over the demise of the global influence of Great Britain and it really took until 79 and the election of Maggie Thatcher for the UK to realize that they had spent the post-war years being bypassed by the rest of the world. It was strong medicine that she had to dose out to but it was needed to try and break their relentless march to socialism. She couldn't stop it but she slowed it while she could. So, who is our next Ronald Reagan / Maggie Thatcher? It's going to take some work to undo the mess that's been made.
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Churchill did come back but the socialist train had already left the station and the populace wanted all that free stuff. It wasn't until the Thatcher era that SOME inroads were made to turn the socialist tide, but I'm not seeing the Brits return to anything resembling their former glory and power. Hell, the Mayor of London is a WOG for chrissakes ,but on the plus side, they are coming back to the Imperial system of measurement 
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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