24hourcampfire.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
4
Campfire Guide
OP Offline
Campfire Guide
4
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
Shooting fast double action and front sight comes off. The last I saw of it was a blur moving fast up & out. Looks like it was
pinned through a slot in the small solid rib above the barrel. The pin was broken off flush with each side of the interior of the slot. No sign of pin location on exterior of rib. Got a feeling replacing this might cost some bucks. Anyone heard of this before or idea of repair cost?

BP-B2

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 17,353
M
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
M
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 17,353
I don't think I've ever seen a pinned front sight on a model 10. I've only seen them integral to the barrel.

Of course there are lots of things I haven't seen, but I wonder if it was some janky gunsmithing that fell apart.

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
4
Campfire Guide
OP Offline
Campfire Guide
4
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
It's a police turn in I bought back in the 80s.I've shot it a lot with no problems till now. You might be right on the janky gun smithing but seems like there would be some sign of the pin on the outside of the barrel/rib. The barrel bluing's about worn off with holster wear there.

Last edited by 43Shooter; 07/02/21.
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 16,655
D
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
D
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 16,655
Call Scott and have him fix it.

Tell him “Captain Dave” says hi!

He’s an American Pistol Smith Guild member and a great guy.

http://www.sdmfabricating.com/


Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. - Ronald Reagan
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,394
T
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
T
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,394
They were all pinned on the heavy barrels. The skinny barrels had the blade forged integral. They pinned them and polished the ends flush during final finishing before being blued. It’s very difficult to redo one and have it be invisible like the factory did. It may end up being cheaper and easier to get a used barrel and replace it if the finish on the rest of the gun isn’t pristine.

IC-A B3

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
4
Campfire Guide
OP Offline
Campfire Guide
4
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
Thanks for the info. After looking at the cost of old 10-6 barrels and what labor would probably cost to either put another barrel on or replace the sight I think I'll leave it as is.

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
4
Campfire Guide
OP Offline
Campfire Guide
4
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
Tried point shooting a silhouette target with no front sight at three to seven yards. Not too good a result. For me It's a little faster than just putting the front sight on the center or head of the silhouette but nowhere near as accurate. So it's on the way back to S&W 49 years after leaving there. I was advised I'd get a call from one of their repair guys to discuss the sight replacement if they would do it and the cost. S&W sent me a prepaid Fed X shipping label that I didn't have to ask for.

I know it's an old gun with a lot of holster wear but there's never been any corrosion, the bore and cylinder chambers are fine, locks up tight and it functions perfect. I'm hoping they can/will either replace the sight or if they can't replace the barrel with one that has a sight on it. .

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 115,018
T
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
T
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 115,018
Originally Posted by 43Shooter
Shooting fast double action and front sight comes off. The last I saw of it was a blur moving fast up & out. Looks like it was
pinned through a slot in the small solid rib above the barrel. The pin was broken off flush with each side of the interior of the slot. No sign of pin location on exterior of rib. Got a feeling replacing this might cost some bucks. Anyone heard of this before or idea of repair cost?

Typically, the front sight is milled into the steel the barrel is made from, i.e., they are one piece of steel with the barrel. I wonder if the sight on yours is an aftermarket modification.


"Money is not an invention of the state ... Certain commodities came to be money quite naturally, as the result of economic relationships that were independent of the power of the state.”

Carl Menger
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 115,018
T
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
T
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 115,018
Originally Posted by 43Shooter
Tried point shooting a silhouette target with no front sight at three to seven yards. Not too good a result. For me It's a little faster than just putting the front sight on the center or head of the silhouette but nowhere near as accurate. So it's on the way back to S&W 49 years after leaving there. I was advised I'd get a call from one of their repair guys to discuss the sight replacement if they would do it and the cost. S&W sent me a prepaid Fed X shipping label that I didn't have to ask for.

I know it's an old gun with a lot of holster wear but there's never been any corrosion, the bore and cylinder chambers are fine, locks up tight and it functions perfect. I'm hoping they can/will either replace the sight or if they can't replace the barrel with one that has a sight on it. .

I've sent several old Smith & Wesson revolvers to S&W for repairs, and they do a great job.


"Money is not an invention of the state ... Certain commodities came to be money quite naturally, as the result of economic relationships that were independent of the power of the state.”

Carl Menger
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
4
Campfire Guide
OP Offline
Campfire Guide
4
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
Thanks for the info that's good to hear.

IC-B B4

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 14,206
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 14,206
Wanna say your luck just about has to turn for the better.

I've never seen one of those fail.


"Chances Will Be Taken"


Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
4
Campfire Guide
OP Offline
Campfire Guide
4
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
Hope you're right. I've never heard of one failing either. I've owned it for around 35 years and the sights have always been right on. Never any sign of them being damaged. When it happened I was shooting semi wadcutter target ammo. It's been shot a lot but seldom with +P ammo and accuracy was still as good as ever.

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 629
E
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
E
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 629
Originally Posted by TheKid
They were all pinned on the heavy barrels. The skinny barrels had the blade forged integral. They pinned them and polished the ends flush during final finishing before being blued. It’s very difficult to redo one and have it be invisible like the factory did. It may end up being cheaper and easier to get a used barrel and replace it if the finish on the rest of the gun isn’t pristine.


Does this apply to the M13, M65 and M64HB, too?

Last edited by ElmerKeith; 10/19/21.

Elmer Keith
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 115,018
T
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
T
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 115,018
Originally Posted by ElmerKeith
Originally Posted by TheKid
They were all pinned on the heavy barrels. The skinny barrels had the blade forged integral. They pinned them and polished the ends flush during final finishing before being blued. It’s very difficult to redo one and have it be invisible like the factory did. It may end up being cheaper and easier to get a used barrel and replace it if the finish on the rest of the gun isn’t pristine.


Does this apply to the M13, M65 and M64HB, too?

Probably safe to assume, since the barrels are the same.


"Money is not an invention of the state ... Certain commodities came to be money quite naturally, as the result of economic relationships that were independent of the power of the state.”

Carl Menger
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
4
Campfire Guide
OP Offline
Campfire Guide
4
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,285
Received Model 10 back from S&W today. They can't replace sight, part not available, obsolete. Can't complain, S&W paid the freight both ways.

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 18,783
2
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
2
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 18,783
Originally Posted by 43Shooter
Received Model 10 back from S&W today. They can't replace sight, part not available, obsolete. Can't complain, S&W paid the freight both ways.


I learned something today. Did not know these were hard to replace. I did a little search and read a couple of threads on the S&W forum. No luck there, either. Odd that somebody can't make a replacement pin-on front for these for fairly cheap.


Sent from my Dingleberry Handheld Wireless
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 115,018
T
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
T
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 115,018
Originally Posted by 43Shooter
Received Model 10 back from S&W today. They can't replace sight, part not available, obsolete. Can't complain, S&W paid the freight both ways.

Have a good gunsmith fabricate and install a replacement.


"Money is not an invention of the state ... Certain commodities came to be money quite naturally, as the result of economic relationships that were independent of the power of the state.”

Carl Menger
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 115,018
T
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
T
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 115,018
Originally Posted by 257heaven
Originally Posted by 43Shooter
Received Model 10 back from S&W today. They can't replace sight, part not available, obsolete. Can't complain, S&W paid the freight both ways.


I learned something today. Did not know these were hard to replace. I did a little search and read a couple of threads on the S&W forum. No luck there, either. Odd that somebody can't make a replacement pin-on front for these for fairly cheap.

They can. Gunsmiths do that sort of work all the time. The good ones, anyway.


"Money is not an invention of the state ... Certain commodities came to be money quite naturally, as the result of economic relationships that were independent of the power of the state.”

Carl Menger
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 18,783
2
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
2
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 18,783
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by 257heaven
Originally Posted by 43Shooter
Received Model 10 back from S&W today. They can't replace sight, part not available, obsolete. Can't complain, S&W paid the freight both ways.


I learned something today. Did not know these were hard to replace. I did a little search and read a couple of threads on the S&W forum. No luck there, either. Odd that somebody can't make a replacement pin-on front for these for fairly cheap.

They can. Gunsmiths do that sort of work all the time. The good ones, anyway.


Looks like the stainless are milled in. I have a 64-3 3" that looks like it's all one piece????


Sent from my Dingleberry Handheld Wireless
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,394
T
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
T
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 6,394
They look like they’re machined into the barrel but they are not. They are pressed into a key slot and pinned in with a cross pin. The pin is then dressed down and polished with the barrel, making it disappear.

It is very difficult to replicate and have the pin be invisible and of course blued guns will have to be reblued.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin, SYSOP 

Link Copied to Clipboard
CTV-TRX
Who's Online Now
773 members (10Glocks, 10gaugemag, 10ring1, 10gaugeman, 06hunter59, 87 invisible), 2,052 guests, and 865 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
RR2/3-22

UDG-IP









Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2022 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
 
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.079s Queries: 15 (0.005s) Memory: 0.9439 MB (Peak: 1.0933 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2022-05-19 01:34:02 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS