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Not the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. I mean the law as defined by present day LEO’s, prosecutors and Judges at every level. Do you actually give a damn on a moral level anymore? The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks.
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We have a two tiered legal system.
Anyone that respects a two tiered legal system is either one of the small, elite tier, or an idiot.....
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I have the utmost respect for the authors of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. I have zero respect for the vast majority of our current lawmakers. I have the utmost respect for the LEO's and armed service members who are our there making sure we keep those original ideals intact. Believe me - there are some that are still out there, and it's unfair to paint them all with a broad brush. I have zero respect for the ones who do otherwise. And I'm damn glad I grew up in the era I did, and not the current one.
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Not the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. I mean the law as defined by present day LEO’s, prosecutors and Judges at every level. Do you actually give a damn on a moral level anymore? The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. I find myself disregarding laws I used to respect. Screw them.
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If I find laws tolerable, I’ll probably tolerate them; if I find them intolerable, I’m gonna break them to the degree that I can get away with it. The government is not my moral compass. The government is not just a little corrupt or unjust in the course of doing its work, but in fact the government is primarily an agent of corruption and injustice.
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God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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If I find laws tolerable, I’ll probably tolerate them; if I find them intolerable, I’m gonna break them to the degree that I can get away with it. The government is not my moral compass. The government is not just a little corrupt or unjust in the course of doing its work, but in fact the government is primarily an agent of corruption and injustice. this.
God bless Texas----------------------- Old 300 I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull Its not how you pick the booger.. but where you put it !! Roger V Hunter
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Not really, not a lot of the bullshit laws anyway. I haven’t had respect for the law for quite some time and don’t see that changing anytime soon.
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
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I've always lived by the theory that if I'm not harming someone, then it's none of their business what I'm doing. With the caveat that if certain govt officials caught me, I would have to pay tribute. I also avoid hanging out with people who think they have to live their lives according to the opinions of politicians.
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After seeing what FedGov and even state.gov tries to do to me every day - no.
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Zero. When they start doing any part of the work they are contracted to do, instead of targeting and marginalizing the people who feed and clothe them, I might think about it. Until then, I do what I want, and the very best thing they can do is stay away from me and find other people to bother.
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Love that quote. Hell of an author.
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Zero. When they start doing any part of the work they are contracted to do, instead of targeting and marginalizing the people who feed and clothe them, I might think about it. Until then, I do what I want, and the very best thing they can do is stay away from me and find other people to bother. I see agencies like the US forest service .... OK, I can't even finish the sentence. They infuriate me.
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Not the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. I mean the law as defined by present day LEO’s, prosecutors and Judges at every level. Do you actually give a damn on a moral level anymore? The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. I find myself disregarding laws I used to respect. Screw them. Same here. Also find myself teaching my kids they don’t have to automatically respect teachers, administrators, clergy, the elderly, LEO’s, judges, physicians etc… the way my parents taught me that these folks all deserved respect based solely on title. That respect should be based on merits.
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If I find laws tolerable, I’ll probably tolerate them; if I find them intolerable, I’m gonna break them to the degree that I can get away with it. The government is not my moral compass. The government is not just a little corrupt or unjust in the course of doing its work, but in fact the government is primarily an agent of corruption and injustice. Man that was well said. Very well said.
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It's not hard to know the difference between right and wrong.
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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If I find laws tolerable, I’ll probably tolerate them; if I find them intolerable, I’m gonna break them to the degree that I can get away with it. The government is not my moral compass. The government is not just a little corrupt or unjust in the course of doing its work, but in fact the government is primarily an agent of corruption and injustice. Man that was well said. Very well said. Yep.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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Seems that it has gotten harder over the past few years.
Wonder when they fall off the charts.
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It's not hard to know the difference between right and wrong. Apparently, it’s a lot harder than some of us think for the average low IQ Biden voter.
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It's not hard to know the difference between right and wrong. I'm with you right up until talking tax laws.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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Hey, it's the King's water and fish. The King's forests and big game. That ditch line holding roosters?, those are all the Kings pheasants, peasant.
You must pay for the that. Unless you're an illegal alien.
Let's go Brandon
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Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.
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I used to, not so much now.
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No.
The motherfuckers are showing us that they could not give an iddy-bitty shit less about he Rule of Law.
They are telling us they can fuck us any way they please.
I think NOT.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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Well...
This morning I pulled a u-turn, from a curb parking spot, in front of an oncoming cop. 10 miles later, I was about 15 over in the beginning of a construction zone(was gonna exit, not go through) in front of another cop.
So I guess I don't follow the law. And neither pulled me over, So they don't follow the law either.
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No.
The motherfuckers are showing us that they could not give an iddy-bitty shit less about he Rule of Law.
They are telling us they can fuck us any way they please.
I think NOT. ^^^This^^^
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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The "rule of law" is not the problem, it's the corrupt people not implementing them equally, that don't get any of my respect.
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Remsen wrote a while back that we are living in a post constitution America.
That sums it up well, the smart ones will live accordingly.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
"Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!"
Biden didn't win the election.
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As I recall the people who protected Anne Franke were breaking the law. Those who killed her were obeying the law.
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There are no Americans down in hell. There are no Americans down in hell! Politicians, provocateurs and a bunch of other queers, But there are no Americans down in hell!
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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We have a moral obligation to NOT follow unjust laws! To do so is to accept tyranny.
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As I recall the people who protected Anne Franke were breaking the law. Those who killed her were obeying the law. You do know the Anne Frank story was a ruse, right?
Epstein didn't kill himself.
"Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!"
Biden didn't win the election.
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[quote=jackmountain]Not the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. I fear the law, but have no respect for it.
This, after 39 years practice in the civil courts.
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No. Not since it's selectively enforced.
l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
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How anyone that sees hillary clinton walking free every day can have respect for our "rule of law" mystifies me.
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If I find laws tolerable, I’ll probably tolerate them; if I find them intolerable, I’m gonna break them to the degree that I can get away with it. The government is not my moral compass. The government is not just a little corrupt or unjust in the course of doing its work, but in fact the government is primarily an agent of corruption and injustice. Word 🦫
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Nope,nowadays man made laws are for the weak minded.
Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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My motto has always been, "just do what's right." It's similar to the golden rule. I figure in the end, what goes around comes around. And I'm not going to hell over something that didn't seem "right" to me from the start.
Then again, I ain't gonna allow myself to be effed over.
Tread on me and I'll bite you in the ass.
I'm old and death is more imminent every day. I'd rather go to my Maker standing up for something that is relevant and represents my beliefs.
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I respect the rule of law as much as Joe Biden does. Not much.
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Sure.
I have no plans of get taken out in the first round.
I am MAGA.
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Sure.
I have no plans of get taken out in the first round. American DodgeBall.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
"Play Cinnamon Girl you Sonuvabitch!"
Biden didn't win the election.
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Sure.
I have no plans of get taken out in the first round. This is no time for you to be witty....You’re dying, remember? 🦫
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Sit down shut up and take your shot !!
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Mexico became so corrupt they accepted it into their culture. It's called "Mordida" (the bite). I think we're on the downhill side of doing the same.
Make Gitmo Great Again!! Who gave the order to stop counting votes in the swing states on the night of November 3/4, 2020?
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I hear so much about "protected" species, hawks ,owls, blue herons and the likes that spend their days killing the stuff that I enjoy, they don't seem to be as "protected" as some seem to believe that they are .
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How does a lawyer sleep? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Well, first he lies on one side, and then he lies on the other side.
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This. Justice is administered how they see fit. It seems to matter who you know not what you have done.
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I spend all my money on loose women and trapping supplies.....The rest I just waste.
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I would rather see fewer laws.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Not the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. I mean the law as defined by present day LEO’s, prosecutors and Judges at every level. Do you actually give a damn on a moral level anymore? The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. The problem here is the law is not defined by LEOs, prosecutors, and Judges. It is defined by the Legislative body which passed the law to begin with. When you choose to define morals and ethics on your level only you have stepped onto the slippery slope of moral relativism which is one of the very things tearing us apart so you thus further the problem.
The way life should be.
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Take the high when possible.
What gets me is the different classes of crime and punishment. Got money, lawyer up. Don’t have money, your screwed.
Burn a city, no big deal, catch an extra walleye, your fuucckked.
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Those that dismiss our present standard of rule of law have likely not experienced its true absence..
Likewise they look at how things were here in the past through rose tinted glasses.
However, if you really wanted to dismantle the rule of law here, defunding the police is a good way to begin.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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when you see the elite spurn the law on a daily basis, it's hard to want to toe the line yourself.
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I fear the law, but have no respect for it... I honesty believe the law no longer has respect for me... not 100%, but more of 80/20... The other possible question is... does the law fear me? As an individual... probably not so much... As a larger group... odds improve. I just finished putting up a second metal building... crew was illegible Mexicans. GREAT GUYS... Love America... crazy hard workers... lots of mutual respect between us. I will share one observation about them... They absolutely HATE black people... hate their guts and livers. They don't like lazy white people much either, but they have an absolute loathing for lazy blacks.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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If it weren’t for Law Enforcement, politicians would just be some people with bad ideas.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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If it weren’t for Law Enforcement, politicians would just be some people with bad ideas. And honest ones…
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Not the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. I mean the law as defined by present day LEO’s, prosecutors and Judges at every level. Do you actually give a damn on a moral level anymore? The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. The rule of law refers to a system wherein the law is above the will or status of any individual, and is applied equally across the board, regardless of the status of the person involved. We don't have that anymore. We have instead a system whereby those who advocate for the destruction of traditional America can spend the four years of a Republican president's administration rioting and burning down buildings, looting, pulling down our monuments right out in the open, attacking the police (and police stations), and everyone else they perceive not to be in support of their cause, killing people for their skin color and politics, and if they are arrested at all, are immediately let go, and no charges are filed against them. But if one were an advocate of preserving our nation's traditions and culture, and were caught in our nation's capital taking selfies in the context of a protest where the police opened the doors and invited you in, you are arrested, placed in solitary confinement for months on end, and reported in the news to be an insurrectionist.
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I have the utmost respect for the authors of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. I have zero respect for the vast majority of our current lawmakers. I have the utmost respect for the LEO's and armed service members who are our there making sure we keep those original ideals intact. Believe me - there are some that are still out there, and it's unfair to paint them all with a broad brush. I have zero respect for the ones who do otherwise. And I'm damn glad I grew up in the era I did, and not the current one. I could not have said it better.. Kudos, sir...
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Just like LEO's, with a belly full of cum. Fixed it.
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Not my words.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
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... crew was illegible Mexicans. Tough boss, ragging on their penmanship.
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I have the utmost respect for the authors of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. I have zero respect for the vast majority of our current lawmakers. I have the utmost respect for the LEO's and armed service members who are our there making sure we keep those original ideals intact. Believe me - there are some that are still out there, and it's unfair to paint them all with a broad brush. I have zero respect for the ones who do otherwise. And I'm damn glad I grew up in the era I did, and not the current one. I could not have said it better.. Kudos, sir... I agree 100%
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Not the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. I mean the law as defined by present day LEO’s, prosecutors and Judges at every level. Do you actually give a damn on a moral level anymore? The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. The problem here is the law is not defined by LEOs, prosecutors, and Judges. It is defined by the Legislative body which passed the law to begin with. When you choose to define morals and ethics on your level only you have stepped onto the slippery slope of moral relativism which is one of the very things tearing us apart so you thus further the problem. Ah, but that is where you are wrong. You see, Congress abrogated their authority long ago. Instead, we have nameless and faceless bureaucrats who make rules. EPA, IRS, CDC, OSHA all pass regulations that you are I are supposed to abide. Remember no renters can be kicked out for not paying rent? CDC somehow found the authority. Bureaucracies staffed by political hacks with their own agendas are who is responsible for much of what we endure as laws these days.
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... crew was illegible Mexicans. Tough boss, ragging on their penmanship. Now that is funny...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Not the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. I mean the law as defined by present day LEO’s, prosecutors and Judges at every level. Do you actually give a damn on a moral level anymore? The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. The problem here is the law is not defined by LEOs, prosecutors, and Judges. It is defined by the Legislative body which passed the law to begin with. When you choose to define morals and ethics on your level only you have stepped onto the slippery slope of moral relativism which is one of the very things tearing us apart so you thus further the problem. Ah, but that is where you are wrong. You see, Congress abrogated it’s authority long ago. Instead, we have nameless and faceless bureaucrats who make rules. EPA, IRS, CDC all pass regulations that you are I are supposed to abide. Remember no renters can be kicked out for not paying rent? CDC somehow found the authority. Bureaucracies staffed by political hacks with their own agendas are who is responsible for much of what we endure as laws these days. …and laws are “written” by lobbyists and special interest groups(attorneys) , NOT by the Lawmakers that sponsor them. But it is LE that give them the power with their blind enforcement.
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When laws as they are selectively enforced, then so will they be selectively abided by !
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I have the utmost respect for the authors of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. I have zero respect for the vast majority of our current lawmakers. I have the utmost respect for the LEO's and armed service members who are our there making sure we keep those original ideals intact. Believe me - there are some that are still out there, and it's unfair to paint them all with a broad brush. I have zero respect for the ones who do otherwise. And I'm damn glad I grew up in the era I did, and not the current one. I could not have said it better.. Kudos, sir... I agree 100% Maybe LE will let you guys lick their boots when they come to take your guns.
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Madtrapper, what state do you live in? Sounds like you’ve had some bad experiences.
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It's not hard to know the difference between right and wrong. You do a very good job of never answering questions. There’s a word for that.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Hey, it's the King's water and fish. The King's forests and big game. That ditch line holding roosters?, those are all the Kings pheasants, peasant.
You must pay for the that. Unless you're an illegal alien.
Let's go Brandon I am sure all those illegals that are planning to hunt & fish in the USA will be buying hunting & fishing licenses and taking their hunter safety courses (Wink, Wink). Right now there are thousands of illegals “scouting” out nice spots and cutting fences on a lot of South Texas ranches and other ranches. I would not want to be booked for a South Texas area ranch for a hunt this year.
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Who can be expected to respect law and law enforcement when there is such blatant disregard of the rule of law by the very people that apply it? Selective enforcement...Jan 6th political prisoners, immigration violations on a massive scale, election law fails in every state, refusal of the Supreme Court to put hot button issues on the docket, blatant instances of clear treason, court decisions and sentencing(or lack of) based on skin color, politicians and their families accepting millions from foreign entities.....it just goes on and on. Who can respect the rule law in these times? You'd be a fool to toe the line when the ruling class doesn't.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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... crew was illegible Mexicans. Tough boss, ragging on their penmanship. Hahaha!
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Who can be expected to respect law and law enforcement when there is such blatant disregard of the rule of law by the very people that apply it? Selective enforcement...Jan 6th political prisoners, immigration violations on a massive scale, election law fails in every state, refusal of the Supreme Court to put hot button issues on the docket, blatant instances of clear treason, court decisions and sentencing(or lack of) based on skin color, politicians and their families accepting millions from foreign entities.....it just goes on and on. Who can respect the rule law in these times? You'd be a fool to toe the line when the ruling class doesn't. Well said. Spot on.
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A lot of you people are old.
Is this a recent revelation?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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To respect something it must be fair and equitably applied regardless of political ideology or status. Because the Rule of Law emanates from the Department of Justice, how can anyone have any respect for the RoL today? Each administration reapplies, ignores, or simply defies the previous interpretation of the Rule of Law. The Department of Justice today has been reduced to a powerful political baton used to bash the opposition party.
So, no, I have no respect for the Rule of Law. But I have the utmost respect and empathy for Federal, State, and Local law enforcement officers that must endure the incessant stupidity of politicians. I do not see how they have the fortitude to stay on the job.
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If I find laws tolerable, I’ll probably tolerate them; if I find them intolerable, I’m gonna break them to the degree that I can get away with it. The government is not my moral compass. The government is not just a little corrupt or unjust in the course of doing its work, but in fact the government is primarily an agent of corruption and injustice. Exactly Obama set the standard if you don't like the law then ignore it. The problem for him and other members of the ruling class is they think they are the only ones who will adopt that strategy, and only the laws they object to will be ignored. When the serfs start ignoring the laws they don't like well that's just not acceptable. This situation reminds me of France prior to the revolution not to mention our own country under British domination. I am beginning to think the solution is becoming obvious.
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Maybe LE will let you guys lick their boots when they come to take your guns.
Maybe where you live, you fear law enforcement doing that... Here, our county is a declared 2nd Amendment Sanctuary county. Our sheriff is a Constitutional Sheriff. Our legislators passed Constitutional Carry, and legalized suppressors in conflict of insane NFA rules that tax and regulate them. Local elections matter too.
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Maybe LE will let you guys lick their boots when they come to take your guns.
Maybe where you live, you fear law enforcement doing that... Here, our county is a declared 2nd Amendment Sanctuary county. Our sheriff is a Constitutional Sheriff. Our legislators passed Constitutional Carry, and legalized suppressors in conflict of insane NFA rules that tax and regulate them. Local elections matter too. Good points, but when the Jack Boots come calling they could care less and a lot of local LE will fall in right behind them. Just look at what has happened here and around the world. Latest example, Australia LE.
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Good points, but when the Jack Boots come calling they could care less and a lot of local LE will fall in right behind them. Just look at what has happened here and around the world. Latest example, Australia LE.
Not here they won't.
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If I find laws tolerable, I’ll probably tolerate them; if I find them intolerable, I’m gonna break them to the degree that I can get away with it. The government is not my moral compass. The government is not just a little corrupt or unjust in the course of doing its work, but in fact the government is primarily an agent of corruption and injustice. This all sounds good when the person stating it has a moral compass, but when over half of the citizens of this country have no compass, this is the first article of anarchy.
I was thinking the other day how much I used to hate Bill Clinton. He was freaking George Washington compared to what they are now.
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Its a great question, just look at how many prosecutors are going after the people that stormed the capital on Jan 6th.. Charging them with all kinds of crimes, and spending millions of dollars hunting them down. (not saying what they did was right) but hardly anyone is being prosecuted for burning down cities and rioting. They are left alone to do it again. 2 sets of laws in this country obviously.
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Not my words.
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. a group of Americans tried that and 2.5% of the population died in a civil war . A union above all else.
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A bunch of you morons were asleep at the wheel when they banned smoking and drinking two beers before you get in your car.
Oh! And don’t forget the “deadbeat dad” laws that were unanimously favored and still advocated for today.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Not the Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. I mean the law as defined by present day LEO’s, prosecutors and Judges at every level. Do you actually give a damn on a moral level anymore? The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. The bias in application of the rule of law removes any respect of it for me.
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To answer the original question: NO!
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There have been many prophets up to the present day that knew all this. Here's one of the best.
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Maybe LE will let you guys lick their boots when they come to take your guns.
Maybe where you live, you fear law enforcement doing that... Here, our county is a declared 2nd Amendment Sanctuary county. Our sheriff is a Constitutional Sheriff. Our legislators passed Constitutional Carry, and legalized suppressors in conflict of insane NFA rules that tax and regulate them. Local elections matter too. Good to hear that, Barry.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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"We are living in a post constitution America!"
That pretty much sums it up right there. Some of us live in areas where local LE, bureaucrats and elected officials still respect the constitution but the higher up the chain you go, the less the constitution matters.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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There have been many prophets up to the present day that knew all this. Here's one of the best. You’re so profound, Fireballz. LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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This all sounds good when the person stating it has a moral compass, but when over half of the citizens of this country have no compass, this is the first article of anarchy. I see it differently. The government is not your friend and it most certainly is not here to help you. The purpose of government is not to make the lives of citizens better, the purpose of government is to accumulate power at the expense of the citizens. Almost everyone in government has no moral compass.
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The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. Good words, & I agree & act the same. MM
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The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. Good words, & I agree & act the same. MM What you fail to see, is that there are many like you that live by their compass, feel the same right to do so and they are or belong in jail.
I was thinking the other day how much I used to hate Bill Clinton. He was freaking George Washington compared to what they are now.
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"We are living in a post constitution America!"
That pretty much sums it up right there. Some of us live in areas where local LE, bureaucrats and elected officials still respect the constitution but the higher up the chain you go, the less the constitution matters. about the same here Mark. why should anyone care about the rule of law, when local authority or government could care less? heck they let these Antifa/BLM idiots do whatever they want, along with the transients... any one who is only a drain on society.. now people who contribute to society and the economy..... they'll beat you like you are the last slave on the plantation...
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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only freedom left in this country, is if the government doesn't know who you are, where you are... or that you even exist....
maybe the transients are smarter than we all are.... but I wouldn't want to live their life style either.
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
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I fear the law, but have no respect for it... I honesty believe the law no longer has respect for me... not 100%, but more of 80/20... The other possible question is... does the law fear me? As an individual... probably not so much... As a larger group... odds improve. I just finished putting up a second metal building... crew was illegible Mexicans. GREAT GUYS... Love America... crazy hard workers... lots of mutual respect between us. I will share one observation about them... They absolutely HATE black people... hate their guts and livers. They don't like lazy white people much either, but they have an absolute loathing for lazy blacks. Your illegal hiring/Mexicans is work - and they worked hard - that's good. While some here complain of the preponderance ( 80% -90% of commercials, by my observation) of blacks in commercials, at least they are "working", if you can call pretendshit "work". Your Meskins likely don't pay taxes, which is both good and bad. They are taking advantage of " free" perks our "system" lets them get away with - that's all bad since they don't pay taxes. (I wouldn't either, given choice- or not as much, btw). They will mostly vote Democrat- that's bad. Not that voting Repub is a whole lot better, given the topic of this thread. We will soon be the same latrine as where they come from. We are well on our way already, due to rule of law NOT being followed. Not that I believe Heinlein to be wrong..... I'm pretty much in the same boat - Does the law make sense (yes)? , should I follow it if it doesn't? (No, unless the consequences are sufficiently unsavory - call me pussy...) So congratulations on hiring illegals. I guess.....
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I just finished putting up a second metal building... crew was illegible Mexicans. GREAT GUYS... Love America... crazy hard workers... lots of mutual respect between us.
I will share one observation about them...
They absolutely HATE black people... hate their guts and livers. They don't like lazy white people much either, but they have an absolute loathing for lazy blacks.
I’ll share a couple more truths with you. They don’t “love America”. They love the opportunity to come here and reap the benefits of a country that they don’t have the courage to create in their own. They love to get drunk and rape and molest American women and girls. They love to take advantage of a country and clueless populace that lets them. They love to flaunt the fact many American cucks hire them and pay them to do these things and worse. The myth that illegal aliens are hardworking, harmless, Gid fearing Catholics is hilariously sad.
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I think I understand the question as well as the position of the OP and may be tempted to say I agree BUT I don’t like the way it was framed.
I believe whole heartedly that respect for and observance of the rule of law is central to the maintenance of liberty and of a free and just society and therefore unreservedly adhere to it.
I do not, however, believe that our ruling class share that belief but are cynically abusing their power by setting themselves above it. I further believe that, just as our FFs said, this creates a situation where to do as I’m told is in fact DISrepect for the rule of law.
When authorities are unjust, it is the patriot’s responsibility to rebel.
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I consider the arbiter of justice to be an authority higher than the rulers or the rules themselves, as stated in the DOI and am uncertain where many here would derive such moral authority given their atheism. Happy if they live as practical theists, as there are far too many theists who live as practical atheists…
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The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. Good words, & I agree & act the same. MM And another moral relativist dodo bird speaks. Unreal.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. - Plato
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I fear the law, but have no respect for it... I honesty believe the law no longer has respect for me... not 100%, but more of 80/20... The other possible question is... does the law fear me? As an individual... probably not so much... As a larger group... odds improve. I just finished putting up a second metal building... crew was illegible Mexicans. GREAT GUYS... Love America... crazy hard workers... lots of mutual respect between us. I will share one observation about them... They absolutely HATE black people... hate their guts and livers. They don't like lazy white people much either, but they have an absolute loathing for lazy blacks. Your illegal hiring/Mexicans is work - and they worked hard - that's good. While some here complain of the preponderance ( 80% -90% of commercials, by my observation) of blacks in commercials, at least they are "working", if you can call pretendshit "work". Your Meskins likely don't pay taxes, which is both good and bad. They are taking advantage of " free" perks our "system" lets them get away with - that's all bad since they don't pay taxes. (I wouldn't either, given choice- or not as much, btw). They will mostly vote Democrat- that's bad. Not that voting Repub is a whole lot better, given the topic of this thread. We will soon be the same latrine as where they come from. We are well on our way already, due to rule of law NOT being followed. Not that I believe Heinlein to be wrong..... I'm pretty much in the same boat - Does the law make sense (yes)? , should I follow it if it doesn't? (No, unless the consequences are sufficiently unsavory - call me pussy...) So congratulations on hiring illegals. I guess..... These 4 guys came with the buildings... (i.e. you buy the buildings and the crew is sent to put it up). They came in a 2020 Dodge 3500 Cummins with a equally impressive custom built trailer. 100% legal. DOT number on the side... commercial plates. Tools were PERFECT (not some 5 gallon bucket of crap)... all ran matching top shelf DeWalt... multi-pack recharging station off of a super quiet gen. Most organized assembly line of tools and production I have ever seen. End of the job they picked up every scrap of waste steel, every piece of trash, every screw they had dropped after the tip went dull... They even picked up the cigarette butts that were there from the masonry crew of Americans. They "Yes Sired" me to death. Will they vote "R" or "D"... I did not ask... but I know with certainty they are absolutely money motivated Capitalists. The boss is married (presumably the DOT truck is in the wife's name and she is a citizen?). He has been here 9 years (since he was 19) and has spent over $10k with the Government trying to become a legal citizen (did not ask particulars, but he did not strike me as a liar). As for drinking... I offered them a few beers at the end of the job... only one of them drank... he took one beer from me. Not sure if they pay taxes or not, but I do suspect someone in the supply stream of the buildings does pay taxes on the labor performed... I am not sure how that would not happen. Workers Comp and Insurance is paid by the fabricator (I know that much). ------------------------------------------------------------------ If I had a crew of 10 polite hardworking white guys like this... the money I could make would be unreal. Did I leave anything out?
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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I just finished putting up a second metal building... crew was illegible Mexicans. GREAT GUYS... Love America... crazy hard workers... lots of mutual respect between us.
I will share one observation about them...
They absolutely HATE black people... hate their guts and livers. They don't like lazy white people much either, but they have an absolute loathing for lazy blacks.
I’ll share a couple more truths with you. They don’t “love America”. They love the opportunity to come here and reap the benefits of a country that they don’t have the courage to create in their own. They love to get drunk and rape and molest American women and girls. They love to take advantage of a country and clueless populace that lets them. They love to flaunt the fact many American cucks hire them and pay them to do these things and worse. The myth that illegal aliens are hardworking, harmless, Gid fearing Catholics is hilariously sad. I would agree with about 1/2 of that (bold above). Flaunt is not a word I would use, but I kind of agree... they like to step up to the plate and smack a home-run... most men do... Or at least most men used to like to do that... before all that kneeling down to Gentle George crap.
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If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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See? That's what the main problem is. The Bolsheviks KNOW that conservatives respect the rule of law, and will mostly try to obey the law. They aren't hamstrung by the same respect for the law, and will in fact break the law in whatever way it may take to further their agenda. They use respect of the law against us. Time and time again. And they get away with it. One day the majority may wake the fugg up and finally see that the Left has declared war quite some time ago.
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Way to be completely unresponsive to the OP question.
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Way to be completely unresponsive to the OP question. This thread has stuck to topic more than most here. I bet you moderate on another forum, don't you?
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Jeebus does it always come to this? What is your answer to the original question?
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I am sure it has been said already....but the Constitution is the highest law of the land, and I swore an oath to defend it.
So any "unlawful order" will be ignored, as I choose (re: Heinlein).
Will there be consequences? Perhaps.
And consequences for whom?
Time will tell.
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For a better understanding of what we're dealing with I'd suggest reading Sidney Powell's book "licensed to Lie". It pretty well describes what we're going through now. Our legal System has been corrupted and it goes to the top of the Federal judiciary. Over the years the Clintons, Bush and Obama have managed to populate our Federal Judiciary with their minions that rule politically instead of legally. They want to Make Law instead of Enforce Law.. Want to change the Federal Judiciary? Change those that appoint and control it. Quit re-electing people that don't have your liberty in mind.
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Jeebus does it always come to this? What is your answer to the original question? I think I was clear enough. Maybe you should start your own thread to moderate? Why the hell do you care how or what my reply to another is, Karen? BTW, what the fugg do your last few posts here have to do with the original question?
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Not in a long time now. When there's a double standard of application of law, it ceases to serve the citizens. Lady Justice ain't blindfolded anymore.
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For a better understanding of what we're dealing with I'd suggest reading Sidney Powell's book "licensed to Lie". It pretty well describes what we're going through now. Our legal System has been corrupted and it goes to the top of the Federal judiciary. Over the years the Clintons, Bush and Obama have managed to populate our Federal Judiciary with their minions that rule politically instead of legally. They want to Make Law instead of Enforce Law.. Want to change the Federal Judiciary? Change those that appoint and control it. Quit re-electing people that don't have your liberty in mind. rainshot, you've nailed it. The poison runs deep. It will take a big knife to cut it out.
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Jeebus does it always come to this? What is your answer to the original question? I think I was clear enough. Maybe you should start your own thread to moderate? Why the hell do you care how or what my reply to another is, Karen? BTW, what the fugg do your last few posts here have to do with the original question? The point is the OP showed himself to be squarely in the camp of moral relativism which is precisely part of the problem 8n this country. What's your answer to his original post?
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We have a two tiered legal system.
Anyone that respects a two tiered legal system is either one of the small, elite tier, or an idiot..... Unfortunately this ^^^ Most folks never get to see this. Some of us have seen it and we are not happy with it. John Roberts said "we don't have democrat and republican judges". I say Bull$hit !!! Rainshot said it: For a better understanding of what we're dealing with I'd suggest reading Sidney Powell's book "licensed to Lie". It pretty well describes what we're going through now. Our legal System has been corrupted and it goes to the top of the Federal judiciary. Over the years the Clintons, Bush and Obama have managed to populate our Federal Judiciary with their minions that rule politically instead of legally. They want to Make Law instead of Enforce Law.. Want to change the Federal Judiciary? Change those that appoint and control it. Quit re-electing people that don't have your liberty in mind. The democRATs and leftists are in control of the court rooms now. My guess is now the FBI has raised the danger rating on this forum just on this thread alone. We are questioning the honesty of the courtrooms. That's a no no in many folks minds. Stolen elections have consequences. kwg
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I respect the concept, but the application (i.e., the enforcers of the law) have lost a lot of my respect. The cops still have it, but the courts, especially the judges, do not. But, like everybody else, I continue to act towards the those enforcing the law as though I do respect them. I don't know what situation may arise where I forego that and openly express my contempt, but it certainly could happen.
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Jeebus does it always come to this? What is your answer to the original question? I think I was clear enough. Maybe you should start your own thread to moderate? Why the hell do you care how or what my reply to another is, Karen? BTW, what the fugg do your last few posts here have to do with the original question? The point is the OP showed himself to be squarely in the camp of moral relativism which is precisely part of the problem 8n this country. What's your answer to his original post? Since you can't seem to read well, I agree with him. It's hard to respect a double standard of law application , when the entire judicial system is weaponized against the citizens.
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Nope. 2 Tier system where law applies to some depending on race, status, political affiliation ect.
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The moral principals that define my integrity, and my ethics are all that concern me any longer. I fear the law, but have no respect for it, mainly due to its biased application. A government this corrupt deserves no respect and no support from honest folks. Good words, & I agree & act the same. MM And another moral relativist dodo bird speaks. Unreal. Look, another dumbass that believes a government dictates what right or wrong is. As far as moral relativity, I’m not sure how it applies to me or you’d label me as such. I certainly don’t believe that morals/ethics differ or are based on my cultural norms. Quite the opposite, I believe right and wrong is universal at a basic level. Killing, stealing and lying is wrong. Pretty simple.
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Not so much lately. How can I have respect for a system that has no respect for me? The current administration is openly contemptuous of me and other conservatives. They lie to us about almost everything, inflation, the border crises, covid-19, etc. but if we resist their lies we become the enemy. Hilary Clinton called half the country deplorable. Ashli Babbitt was summarily executed and nothing is done about it meanwhile the policeman who killed Floyd is convicted of murder. It's hard to have respect for such a lopsided system. The odd thing to me is those in power have no respect even for their own.
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Generically law has always been a two tiered system since the dawn of society, economic and political.
Scumbag Powerhungry fûcks like bluefish prefer political most moral men economic.
The Constitution is the currently greatest balance of the two in the history of mankind.
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Good people back the blue. Unfortunately we found out their loyalty is to their pensions and the deep state. MAGA
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Wrong. Government does not dictate right or wrong. Never said that. If I have misread the OP fine, apologies, but I took him to mean his ethics are whatever he says they are. If so, I strongly disagree. But if OP means his ethics are aligned with universal truths then we agree.
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I have the utmost respect for the authors of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. I have zero respect for the vast majority of our current lawmakers. I have the utmost respect for the LEO's and armed service members who are our there making sure we keep those original ideals intact. Believe me - there are some that are still out there, and it's unfair to paint them all with a broad brush. I have zero respect for the ones who do otherwise. And I'm damn glad I grew up in the era I did, and not the current one. I agree 1oo% with this
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Most law has been broken, i tolerate the laws that are tolerable and discard the other way round Fffuugk you, you miserable scamming piece of schidt.
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Absolutely not.
I've seen a couple good people be accused of things I'm certain they didn't do. And in the absence of evidence (he said, she said) the nature of the accusations reigns over "innocent until proven guilty".
They were, in fact, forced to try to prove innocence.
Consider the Duke Lacrosse team. They only got exonerated because their families had the money to find enough evidence to prove innocence. Something that's often impossible.
Consider your own reaction to someone being accused of a sex crime. "They ought to hang...." Remember when you heard about a bunch of rich college athletes raping a woman.
Our system isn't supposed to work that way. But, it does.
On the other hand, look at what Hillary has hotten away with.
Look at the rioters, caught at 10pm, released by 10am. Repeatedly.
How, could you possibly believe in "The Rule of Law"?
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Yes. Still respect the bones of the system, hijacked though it is. Innocent until proven guilty, jury of peers, etc.
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It depends on the integrity of those administering it. Everything a democrap touches including the Rule of Law, turns to schitt,.
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Is killing a lying, stealing, corrupt politician right or wrong?
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"The law is the king speaking".
This has been the attitude of the us Government for a very long time. I haven't recognized the authority of Washington D.C. in 30+ years, when I had only just begun to realize what was really going on. The States are catching up quickly now.
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I see the law as more of a guideline where I get to choose which I agree with.
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The problem is basic, conservatives mostly believe in the rule of law. Liberals on the other hand do not " as far as they are concerned your not guilty of any wrong doing until your caught and convicted of it". With one side of the populace trying to hold on moral higher ground and the other refusing to even recognize it, you will see a steady erosion of it. That is where and why we are at our present situation here in the US. ..mb
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The problem is basic, conservatives mostly believe in the rule of law. Liberals on the other hand do not " as far as they are concerned your not guilty of any wrong doing until your caught and convicted of it". With one side of the populace trying to hold on moral higher ground and the other refusing to even recognize it, you will see a steady erosion of it. That is where and why we are at our present situation here in the US. ..mb You would probably have a valid argument there if the law didn't demand that I believe and support the gender crap, homo crap and all the other unadulterated filth the weirdo politicians pander to. No...the law is a guideline only...and only when it suits me. F uck 'em.
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I recall conversations with our legal counsel, during my working years.
The gist of it was that the naivete of idealistic law students is knocked out of them during the first year.
A couple of examples: "There is no law, only lawyers". Professor to law student (sarcastically) "Oh, Mr.___has discovered a LAW!"
We are living under a tyranny of lawyers. A civilized society, a nation of laws, needs lawyers, but the influence and power of the legal profession has come to exceed that which is reasonable. Furthermore, the greatest concentration of such power is found disproportionately among graduates of a few elite law schools. Far too much concentration of power.
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[quote=Magnumdood]How anyone that sees hillary clinton walking free every day can have respect for our "rule of law" mystifies me.[/quot
Whole bunch of MFers out there that fit that piece of thought . POS recently involved in a wreck , no insurance , no DL , been arrested several times for various crimes , rolls over on some other POS and walks , to much lead way given to snitches and bitches . Lot of good points made in this thread , future will be interesting to say the least . Kenneth
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I got aware of there being a problem many years ago , brought it to the attention of family at a dinner once . That all laughed and thought it was the silliest thing they ever heard . That would never be allowed here ! A while back I brought that dinner up in a conversation, well well , no one remembers . Set here pondering on how to follow up on this , There is much truth in some things left unsaid being wise . Won’t change anything . Kenneth
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Is killing a lying, stealing, corrupt politician right or wrong?
I have often asked myself this. Where is the line between defending our Constitution and obeying the law? As good decent people we might struggle with that concept and those that are subverting our nation are taking advantage of us. Take for example Bennett Schiff. He has lied so many times and knows nothing will be done about it. He thumbs his nose at those of us that value decency and are trying be patient and hope our justice system will do what needs to be done. All the while he still gets away with undermining what's right. So here is what always comes to my own mind as a question for myself. Am I by being part of allowing this to continue truly obeying the Constitution as the Founders intended. In my mind they wrote every word of those documents to enforce the basic God given rights we all share and to be true to God means to do my part in trying to ensure those that follow me can enjoy that same life of freedom. For me the time for action is not if it should be taken but where and when and how.
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I learn mostly by example. I have learned that the law seems to be mostly a suggestion.
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Due to the appalling politicization of the criminal justice system I taken a fairly simple approach to the "law".
Malum in se laws will be obeyed to the best of my ability. Malum prohitbitum laws will be ignored as I desire. I'm not going to have my life ruled by weak "men" and Karen the housefraus.
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