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Science is like anything else. Music, food, religion, politics.
There's science, and then there's people cherry picking for what suits them. so, in the end, you have a topic that bends whichever way you like.
"We're following THE science"
THE science?
C'mon man...
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In the real world, "Science", like Math, is grounded in repeatable and provable fact. It's when the progressive thinkers get ahold of it when suddenly 2+2=5.
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Science is a process, it is the application of the scientific method and is constantly evolving.
“The Science “ does not exist.
Real science encourages open, vigorous debate as part of the process to finding better answers.
Not much open vigorous debate on key issues lately.
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Science is a process, it is the application of the scientific method and is constantly evolving.
“The Science “ does not exist.
Real science encourages open, vigorous debate as part of the process to finding better answers.
Not much open vigorous debate on key issues lately. 100%
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Can you expound on your post a bit more? Covid related no doubt, and I understand folks from both sides of the vaccine topic are frustrated. Just wanting insights as to what you think people around here are missing in your opinion.
Certainly trust your perspective and hence the honest question.
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Science......there are more Scientists today, than has ever been previously in total.
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Always good to see Dave post.
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Science is a process, it is the application of the scientific method and is constantly evolving.
“The Science “ does not exist.
Real science encourages open, vigorous debate as part of the process to finding better answers.
Not much open vigorous debate on key issues lately. There's peer review by fellow scientists, and then there's political spin by non-scientists.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
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Can you expound on your post a bit more? Covid related no doubt, and I understand folks from both sides of the vaccine topic are frustrated. Just wanting insights as to what you think people around here are missing in your opinion.
Certainly trust your perspective and hence the honest question. Recent use of this new term "The science". I feel we are being groomed for further direction from "THE science". The science will soon drive whatever political direction you can imagine. My point is, what they really mean is "follow OUR science"
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I concur! Thanks for the clarification, I was a little slow on the uptake.
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The Cleveland Clinic did a study with health care workers who had recovered from covid.
Zero were reinfected.
That's better than the vaccine protection.
That's peer reviewed data that isn't debatable.
Yet, after pressure from .gov, they changed from "you shouldn't get the vaccine if you've had covid" to "we follow CDC guidelines and everyone should get the vaccine."
Them doing that was a VERY big deal. Had they done anything like that pre coronapocalypse, it would have been blasted by everyone.
Yet, crickets....
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Science is like anything else. Music, food, religion, politics.
There's science, and then there's people cherry picking for what suits them. so, in the end, you have a topic that bends whichever way you like.
"We're following THE science"
THE science?
C'mon man... Science refers to a process for discovering the truth, not any particular set of conclusions, yet it's the latter that the establishment is pushing as the definition of science that we need to "follow."
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How are you doing, work wise?
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Copernicus didn't follow the science. Galileo didn't follow the consensus science. Of course they were both ultimately wrong, but not as wrong as the 'science' that came before them. What was lacking in their time is the same thing GRF states. Vigorous, honest debate to reach a real conclusion rather than a political one. "Science" was political 500 years ago just as it is now because it is a tool used to keep the subjects in line.
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How are you doing, work wise? Me? Living the dream. 😁 All ready for rifle season. My niece is coming up to opener. Have the whole week off. And it's been 126 days since I did a TEE on a covid patient. WINNING!!!!
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Excellent!
My youngest is in a deer stand this morning.
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Excellent!
My youngest is in a deer stand this morning. Niiiiiiiice. I haven't had time for much bow hunting the last few years, but I've had all of rifle season off, which kinda makes up for it.
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Science is a process, it is the application of the scientific method and is constantly evolving.
“The Science “ does not exist.
Real science encourages open, vigorous debate as part of the process to finding better answers.
Not much open vigorous debate on key issues lately. Bingo. Science is the process which leads to fact, failure or inconclusive results.
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You could never build a rocket if you followed science the way a COVTARD does.
They’re fugking idiots.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Sounds like conservative christians and the bible.
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