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Some actor years back he was being cute shooting himself with a blank.


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
What kind of ignorant moron takes somebody’s word that a firearm is unloaded and “safe” without checking for himself when it is handed to him, then proceeds to point it at someone and pull the trigger?

Oh yeah, an ignorant, liberal moron like Alec Baldwin

So much stupidity and negligence in this incident to know where to begin.

And these Hollywood idiots are idolized by Commie democrat zombies nationwide.



It's not the actors job or responsibility, as stated by Rockinbbar above...and he worked on filming sets.

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Originally Posted by Bwana_1

Which is what I think happened to the actor in 1984(heal 44 mag with blanks to his head screwing around, and fractured his skull and died)....along with the Jason Lee incident with a blank shot at his stomach, but shards of blank plastic entered his stomach as a projectile...6 hours of surgery later he died at 28 years old.


John Erik Hexum was dicking around with a .44 Magnum loaded with blanks, and put the barrel to his temple and pulled the trigger.

Instant dead.

Brandon Lee was killed on the set because they were filming a closeup of the gun, supposedly using dummy rounds to look like live ammo.... They did the closeup of the gun firing dummy rounds, then loaded the gun with blanks and did the scene that killed him.

The "dummy rounds" used had a live primer... And when they pulled the trigger, the primer pushed the bullet into the barrel. Once the blanks were loaded for the scene, it was fired, and the pressure from the blank shot the bullet out, just as if it had been real live ammo.

Armourer was at fault for not checking the gun, as well as having a live primer in the dummy rounds.


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"then proceeds to point it at someone and pull the trigger?"

I too would like to hear why He pointed the gun at someone while pulling the trigger, "blanks" or not. There could be a legit reason (in the movie making world), and no doubt if there isn't, one will be found.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Bwana_1

Which is what I think happened to the actor in 1984(heal 44 mag with blanks to his head screwing around, and fractured his skull and died)....along with the Jason Lee incident with a blank shot at his stomach, but shards of blank plastic entered his stomach as a projectile...6 hours of surgery later he died at 28 years old.


John Erik Hexum was dicking around with a .44 Magnum loaded with blanks, and put the barrel to his temple and pulled the trigger.

Instant dead.

Brandon Lee was killed on the set because they were filming a closeup of the gun, supposedly using dummy rounds to look like live ammo.... They did the closeup of the gun firing dummy rounds, then loaded the gun with blanks and did the scene that killed him.

The "dummy rounds" used had a live primer... And when they pulled the trigger, the primer pushed the bullet into the barrel. Once the blanks were loaded for the scene, it was fired, and the pressure from the blank shot the bullet out, just as if it had been real live ammo.

Armourer was at fault for not checking the gun, as well as having a live primer in the dummy rounds.


Yes I understood the 1st incident with Hexum, but wasn't aware of the Lee details...thanks for explaining.

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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
What kind of ignorant moron takes somebody’s word that a firearm is unloaded and “safe” without checking for himself when it is handed to him, then proceeds to point it at someone and pull the trigger?

Oh yeah, an ignorant, liberal moron like Alec Baldwin

So much stupidity and negligence in this incident to know where to begin.

And these Hollywood idiots are idolized by Commie democrat zombies nationwide.



It's not the actors job or responsibility, as stated by Rockinbbar above...and he worked on filming sets.



Actually it’s the job of everyone who is handed a firearm by someone else


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Originally Posted by las
"then proceeds to point it at someone and pull the trigger?"

I too would like to hear why He pointed the gun at someone while pulling the trigger, "blanks" or not. There could be a legit reason (in the movie making world), and no doubt if there isn't, one will be found.


It would make a teeny tiny bit more sense of the person he shot was another actor while filming a scene, but an assistant director or crew member???


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
What kind of ignorant moron takes somebody’s word that a firearm is unloaded and “safe” without checking for himself when it is handed to him, then proceeds to point it at someone and pull the trigger?

Oh yeah, an ignorant, liberal moron like Alec Baldwin

So much stupidity and negligence in this incident to know where to begin.

And these Hollywood idiots are idolized by Commie democrat zombies nationwide.



It's not the actors job or responsibility, as stated by Rockinbbar above...and he worked on filming sets.



Actually it’s the job of everyone who is handed a firearm by someone else


Actually, no...actors are not nor claim to be weapons experts, they have a Pro on site for that very important job and responsibility.

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My guess is that most actors have become complacent to any type of firearm safety due to the fact that it was someone else’s job. I am sure that is about to change.

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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
What kind of ignorant moron takes somebody’s word that a firearm is unloaded and “safe” without checking for himself when it is handed to him, then proceeds to point it at someone and pull the trigger?

Oh yeah, an ignorant, liberal moron like Alec Baldwin

So much stupidity and negligence in this incident to know where to begin.

And these Hollywood idiots are idolized by Commie democrat zombies nationwide.



It's not the actors job or responsibility, as stated by Rockinbbar above...and he worked on filming sets.



Actually it’s the job of everyone who is handed a firearm by someone else


Actually, no...actors are not nor claim to be weapons experts, they have a Pro on site for that very important job and responsibility.


The “pro” or “authority” should be required to demonstrate to the person he’s handing the firearm to that it is safe.


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Originally Posted by Calvin
My guess is that most actors have become complacent to any type of firearm safety due to the fact that it was someone else’s job. I am sure that is about to change.



I think gun safety used to be worse in the movies than it is now.

I know several actors got pretty good at twirling sixguns while on the set of movies and TV shows. All that down time in costume and nothing to do, but play with the guns.

Sammy Davis Jr. turned out to be one that got really, really good with a gun. He was a national competitor on the fast draw competitions. He was really good.



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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by Bwana_1
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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
What kind of ignorant moron takes somebody’s word that a firearm is unloaded and “safe” without checking for himself when it is handed to him, then proceeds to point it at someone and pull the trigger?

Oh yeah, an ignorant, liberal moron like Alec Baldwin

So much stupidity and negligence in this incident to know where to begin.

And these Hollywood idiots are idolized by Commie democrat zombies nationwide.



It's not the actors job or responsibility, as stated by Rockinbbar above...and he worked on filming sets.



Actually it’s the job of everyone who is handed a firearm by someone else


Actually, no...actors are not nor claim to be weapons experts, they have a Pro on site for that very important job and responsibility.


The “pro” or “authority” should be required to demonstrate to the person he’s handing the firearm to that it is safe.


Meaning, open the action and visually show the novice that it is empty or loaded with blank ammo


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia

The “pro” or “authority” should be required to demonstrate to the person he’s handing the firearm to that it is safe.


Maybe.

But what actor really knows the difference?

If they did know the difference and asked to be shown the gun was safe, I'm sure the armourer would do so.


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A guess
Union set up
To cause another mess on the set before they all left.
Told the new girl these are ready to go.
She trusted
Union shut down production as they wanted.




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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by rcamuglia

The “pro” or “authority” should be required to demonstrate to the person he’s handing the firearm to that it is safe.


Maybe.

But what actor really knows the difference?

If they did know the difference and asked to be shown the gun was safe, I'm sure the armourer would do so.


Even if the novice couldn’t tell the difference, at least it would be a safety check by an armourer who is a supposed “expert”


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by rcamuglia

The “pro” or “authority” should be required to demonstrate to the person he’s handing the firearm to that it is safe.


Maybe.

But what actor really knows the difference?

If they did know the difference and asked to be shown the gun was safe, I'm sure the armourer would do so.


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As to why a crew member was shot, I suspect “horseplay” on the set with “prop” firearms.


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Nope. She placed three guns on a table for the scene and declared them all “cold”. The assistant director took one of them and gave it to Baldwin and told him it was “cold”.


That's a problem, big problem.


Not the AD's job .


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No horseplay
Someone put a live round in that prop.




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Originally Posted by Wtxj
No horseplay
Someone put a live round in that prop.


“Horseplay” meaning they’re jerking off, running around between scenes playing cowboys and Indians with prop guns “shooting” each other.

What other explanation is plausible as to why a firearm was pointed at an assistant director and shot?


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