24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 3 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 38,891
Likes: 4
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 38,891
Likes: 4
LHO did it.


Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile.

Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe)

Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,202
Likes: 18
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,202
Likes: 18
Originally Posted by Strider1
[Linked Image from media.giphy.com]

Self Portrait???


The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)

member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,202
Likes: 18
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,202
Likes: 18
Originally Posted by Fireball2
It took 12 hours of work for me to get lightheaded in 107 temps years ago. I sat down and was fine in less than 5 minutes.

YMMV.

Did you have adequate water?

I helped drag a guy up the final part of a steep slope and into the bed of a truck after a hike down to a lake in SoCal for a swim. We were HS age and in good shape. If we hadn't got him in the truck, got water into him and a wet blanket on him, he likely would have died. Couldn't have been more than a couple of hours in those conditions for him to get heat illness.

So yes, YMMV depending on conditions and "luck"???


The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)

member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 45,030
Likes: 25
R
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 45,030
Likes: 25
Mehhhh...
Californians...
Probably Liberal Socialist Democrats anyways.
Probably death by Bunga- Bunga.
Sad for the kid and the dog.

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,912
Likes: 2
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 37,912
Likes: 2
Dunno where I heard it, they were only 1.5 miles from their vehicle but that last 1.5 miles involved a steep climb.


"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
IC B2

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 23,546
Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 23,546
Likes: 1
about 5 years ago I went hiking in a gorge which was roughly a 7 mile loop in May. The temperature was around 83 degrees and my wife and I knocked out the hike in about 2 hours. It wasn't all the challenging.

Then in July we decided to do it again with a group of people and the temp ended up being 97. I wasn't sure I was going to make it out. at one point I was laying down on a flat rock in the open sun just trying to get enough energy to finish the last 1/4 mile. We had water, probably not enough, but the heat just zapped me, and since then I just avoid being outside in that kind of heat doing any activity.

That said, that was just me, my wife was fine, all the people I was with went ahead, and certainly there weren't any dogs dying that day.

If the heat did kill these people, they had to make some collective decision that did them in which is hard to believe. at some point you want to seek help and protect that child at all costs.


Last edited by KFWA; 10/23/21.

have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 3,742
E
ERK Offline
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
E
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 3,742
If either man or woman went down for the count any normal parent would do their best to save the child. They would not just sit down and let the kid die. Edk

Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 3,845
Likes: 1
B
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
B
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 3,845
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by dingo




One hour without water in those temperatures and it's usually all over. People die in Australia every year in similar circumstances - nothing unsual about that.







Nonsense.

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,771
H
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
H
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,771
Roofers work their asses off in similar conditions and don’t miss a beat. Somethings fishy

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,202
Likes: 18
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,202
Likes: 18
Originally Posted by ERK
If either man or woman went down for the count any normal parent would do their best to save the child. They would not just sit down and let the kid die. Edk

Odds might be that both parents were in heat stress and neither was thinking right. Similar to hypothermia, the brain becomes secondary to the body keeping the basic life systems running.


The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)

member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?
IC B3

Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,255
Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,255
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Johnny, I think you might be grossly underestimating the debilitating effect of exertion at 109F and neither shade nor water.


No thats funny as hell. NOBODY can tell me about heat or dehydration related things. I am an EXPERT on the subject.

I can do you one better than that. I had one troop that had terminal Leukemia, he tried to kill himself or the cancer by going into the gym sauna until he was damn near cooked. Twice they found him near death in the sauna and not only did he survive, it cured the Leukemia.

I’ll stick to my belief that just like many other cases over hundreds of years, they don’t know or don’t want to admit what happened and they want it to go away.

Last edited by JohnnyLoco; 10/23/21.
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,202
Likes: 18
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 45,202
Likes: 18
Originally Posted by hunter4623
Roofers work their asses off in similar conditions and don’t miss a beat. Somethings fishy


Roofers are acclimated to the work also.

I worked in a place where the average daily high is over 100F from June through Sept. If I'm not mistaken, an average day in July is 108F and we had periods of 5+ days in a row over 120F. One becomes more used to it as summer progresses.

I came home from work one day, stayed inside for a couple of hours, then went out and mowed the lawn. Looked at the thermometer and it was 104F and I hardly felt it and commented to myself that I was glad it was finally cool enough to do some yard work.

My understanding, both those adults came from IT or some sort of indoor profession and more than likely rarely saw 107F temperatures.

People from up north die every year in AZ because they feel that "dry heat" is pretty pleasant and they hardly seem to sweat. Next thing you know, they're down for the count.

I get acclimated to the cold too. Most folks don't shovel snow in shorts and a 20 year old threadbare hoodie.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]


The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)

member of the cabal of dysfunctional squirrels?
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 19,730
Likes: 13
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 19,730
Likes: 13


Interesting how some of you are comparing seasoned construction workers who work in the heat for a living to a pair of soft ac loving city folks that just moved one of the hottest parts of California and decided to go for an extended exhaustive hike in heat index conditions that kill some of the very same seasoned construction/ labor workers every year.


"Maybe we're all happy."

"Go to the sporting goods store. From the files, obtain form 4473. These will contain descriptions of weapons and lists of private ownership."
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 95,719
Likes: 2
J
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
J
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 95,719
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Musta been global warming.


Ha, Covid.


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

I Dindo Nuffin
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 95,719
Likes: 2
J
Campfire Oracle
Offline
Campfire Oracle
J
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 95,719
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by hunter4623
Roofers work their asses off in similar conditions and don’t miss a beat. Somethings fishy


Yep. They have water.


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

I Dindo Nuffin
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 56,311
Likes: 9
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 56,311
Likes: 9
Some people die easy too.

There's that.


_______________________________________________________
An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack

LOL
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 41,605
Likes: 11
DMc Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 41,605
Likes: 11
Breaks my heart to think, the baby probably died first. What happened after that nobody knows.


Make Gitmo Great Again!!
Who gave the order to stop counting votes in the swing states on the night of November 3/4, 2020?
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 635
2
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
2
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 635
I call B.S.
All four died at the same place, same time... of heat stroke?
C'mon man... this is baloney.

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 31,269
Likes: 4
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 31,269
Likes: 4
280, they weren't found for two days. Once again, nobody has claimed they died at the same time or that they died within an hour or so. These were not acclimated roofers or construction people. They were a man, a woman, and an infant hiking in rough terrain when the temp shot up over 60 degrees.

I don't disparage posters who have heat experience. But it wasn't you out there. As a rough analogy, there have been people who survived chest shots with a .357 Magnum and others who have keeled over dead with one hit from a .25 ACP. You cannot make any assumptions about how susceptible other people are to something based on your own or somebody else's hardiness.

To those claiming BS, kindly show us actual evidence that they died of something other than hyperthermia. Not guesses, not theories. Evidence.


Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 18,497
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 18,497
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
To those claiming BS, kindly show us actual evidence that they died of something other than hyperthermia. Not guesses, not theories. Evidence.
Have you been shown “actual evidence” that they all died from hyperthermia...?


Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
Page 3 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

574 members (10gaugemag, 06hunter59, 10gaugeman, 10Glocks, 1234, 64 invisible), 2,316 guests, and 1,309 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,192,394
Posts18,488,802
Members73,970
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.194s Queries: 55 (0.010s) Memory: 0.9099 MB (Peak: 1.0258 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-04 15:13:54 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS