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Given that a 100 million + Americans will soon be dying from the COVID vaccine, I don’t blame the trucking companies for not wanting too much staff. The problem will soon resolve itself.
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The piss tests only detect the residuals from smoking weed, not the intoxicating effects.The residuals may be in your system for up to 30 days after you light up. The intoxicating effects only last a few hours. I agree treat weed the same as booze. But there needs to be a test for intoxication, not residuals.
Wouldn't a basic road side sobriety test do the job?
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The piss tests only detect the residuals from smoking weed, not the intoxicating effects.The residuals may be in your system for up to 30 days after you light up. The intoxicating effects only last a few hours. I agree treat weed the same as booze. But there needs to be a test for intoxication, not residuals.
Wouldn't a basic road side sobriety test do the job? No because that's hocus-pocus and coppers are just out to get you. Remember? Standardized field sobriety tests are unscientific and bogus.
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The piss tests only detect the residuals from smoking weed, not the intoxicating effects.The residuals may be in your system for up to 30 days after you light up. The intoxicating effects only last a few hours. I agree treat weed the same as booze. But there needs to be a test for intoxication, not residuals.
Wouldn't a basic road side sobriety test do the job? No because that's hocus-pocus and coppers are just out to get you. Remember? There is a bit of subjectivity to those tests............................. which is why they are followed up by a breath of blood test in most instances.
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Given that a 100 million + Americans will soon be dying from the COVID vaccine, I don’t blame the trucking companies for not wanting too much staff. The problem will soon resolve itself. Show us where the doctor touched you.
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This must be the only country on earth that pushes and encourages substance abuse....then penalizes the fugg out of you for doing it. Hey now, Mister. They did do away with all those horrible opioids that people were using for pain management and getting high, dontcha know. 🦫
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This must be the only country on earth that pushes and encourages substance abuse....then penalizes the fugg out of you for doing it. Hey now, Mister. They did do away with all those horrible opioids that people were using for pain management and getting high, dontcha know. 🦫 Hahaha! After we invaded Afghanistan for the dope. Go ahead and ask your doctor about ___________ and then kill yourself for losing your job when you take it.
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Wouldn't a basic road side sobriety test do the job? No. The effects of weed are not as pronounced as booze. Anybody with a tolerance (i.e., been smoking for some time) for weed could pass a road side sobriety test. Being stoned isn't the same as being drunk. If you develop and market a road side test for weed, you will be rich.
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Wouldn't a basic road side sobriety test do the job? No. The effects of weed are not as pronounced as booze. Anybody with a tolerance (i.e., been smoking for some time) for weed could pass a road side sobriety test. Being stoned isn't the same as being drunk. If you develop and market a road side test for weed, you will be rich. Not true.
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Anybody else think there is a strong correlation between the two?
I believe trucking companies require piss test....no?
Is that why Cali outlawed independent truckers? Because they legalized weed?
I don't know, just a thought I had and figured I'd share. With so many states legalizing weed, it has to be a factor.
DOT requires companies to drug test their employees on Amy DOT related projects including pipeline workers
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Jim, 40+oz of coffee and blood pressure meds, I'm well flushed. Valsdad, It's not "Away from home". Moving your family, or even military allows personal life to go on. (Obviously, military varies in this) I typically left the house sometime Sunday, sometimes Saturday. From then on, it was sleep when you can, eat when you can, shower when you can. No time to do anything much you wanted. Maybe read a bit in the bunk. Stand around at a customer and listen to drivers lie. Get home late Friday or Saturday morning. Long hours? 3100miles/week 55mph, average. Always was cooking the book to minimize hours. Often started over with a new one because I had over 70 in the last 8 days logged. No idea the real numbers, but it was around $900/wk. Somehow, never broke $40k/yr. Mid 90's. It literally was your life. All the stuff you do after work on a week day. None of that. Not a cry fest. Did it for a number of years, the company I was pulling for closed, and I walked away. Life ain't easy. For years after I quit long haul, we struggled financially, but we got to live our lives. We would have stuck with it, but it wasn't woth it. Got into dumptrucks, then hauling gas/diesel. As to weed? Would love to say it's nothing. But I know too many CDL holders with DUIs. Do know that it's getting harder to hire clean pissers. We had one hot recently. Cost the guy a good opportunity. Other outfits have quit testing. Don't ask don't tell! They would rather have a pothead then no one.
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This must be the only country on earth that pushes and encourages substance abuse....then penalizes the fugg out of you for doing it. Yep, the state and lawyers making hay every day.
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Jim, 40+oz of coffee and blood pressure meds, I'm well flushed. Valsdad, It's not "Away from home". Moving your family, or even military allows personal life to go on. (Obviously, military varies in this) I typically left the house sometime Sunday, sometimes Saturday. From then on, it was sleep when you can, eat when you can, shower when you can. No time to do anything much you wanted. Maybe read a bit in the bunk. Stand around at a customer and listen to drivers lie. Get home late Friday or Saturday morning. Long hours? 3100miles/week 55mph, average. Always was cooking the book to minimize hours. Often started over with a new one because I had over 70 in the last 8 days logged. No idea the real numbers, but it was around $900/wk. Somehow, never broke $40k/yr. Mid 90's. It literally was your life. All the stuff you do after work on a week day. None of that. Not a cry fest. Did it for a number of years, the company I was pulling for closed, and I walked away. Life ain't easy. For years after I quit long haul, we struggled financially, but we got to live our lives. We would have stuck with it, but it wasn't woth it. Got into dumptrucks, then hauling gas/diesel. As to weed? Would love to say it's nothing. But I know too many CDL holders with DUIs. Do know that it's getting harder to hire clean pissers. We had one hot recently. Cost the guy a good opportunity. Other outfits have quit testing. Don't ask don't tell! They would rather have a pothead then no one. Well, the job I retired from, I got on the boat/barge combo at 0800, went downriver for two days unless a lock broke, the ship broke, the weather got bad, dumped the fish at/after sunset on the second day which on the Columbia River was 9PM or later in the summer, then turned upriver to pick up another load. Then, if everything cooperated, which it rarely did, I was supposed to get back to the project by 5PM on the fourth day, turn in the paperwork, and get scheidt ready to leave at 0800 the next morning. Sometimes this went on for 28-32 days in a row. Many times we didn't get back until after midnight and we still had to be ready to turnaround at 0800. First day of the trip, I had to check the fish every two hours until after midnight, then every four hours until we dumped them. In other words, no real rest for 2 days. And maybe I might get a full four hour break IF an alarm on the barge pumps didn't go off, or the O2 levels stayed above spec. And having to go out in any type of weather from snow/sleet/ice or temps over 100F, high winds, water coming over the decks etc. When I got home, there was no going to town for fun or supplies, as town was 30 miles up the hill out of the canyon and nearly an hours drive each way. Not a whole lot different from trucking, and yet I was pretty happy to have a decent job even tho the wife and dogs were 6-17 hrs drive away depending on the year. And I had the pleasure of living in a 17' RV, then a 24' RV, and finally a 28' travel trailer. All I'm saying is if it takes driving an OTR truck to make a living, that's what one does, whether it keeps one away from family or not. And those guys make about as much as I did in my job, except I might get better OT compensation. But 2 week periods with 120 hours of OT weren't always fun, even thought the pay was good.
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I bet fatigue kills more people than a truck driver that had a joint a couple days ago.
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I bet fatigue kills more people than a truck driver that had a joint a couple days ago. 100%. Saw one wreck where a fella drifted off to sleep, ended up hitting bridge support at 80mph. 40k lbs of charcoal were all of the interstate, the tractor was cleaved in half, and ol boy was hamburger...... But I've also seen people so f'ed up on edibles that you'd think they were on pcp. I guess every situation is different at the end of the day.
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The piss tests only detect the residuals from smoking weed, not the intoxicating effects.The residuals may be in your system for up to 30 days after you light up. The intoxicating effects only last a few hours. I agree treat weed the same as booze. But there needs to be a test for intoxication, not residuals.
Wouldn't a basic road side sobriety test do the job? No because that's hocus-pocus and coppers are just out to get you. Remember? Standardized field sobriety tests are unscientific and bogus. So you're saying a person can pass a standard roadside sobriety test and not be capable of driving safely?
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I bet fatigue kills more people than a truck driver that had a joint a couple days ago. Neighbor of mine passed out at 5am on his way home from a all night drive and took out a telephone pole about a 1/4 mile from the house. He seems to feel as if driving that fatigued was just fine and falling asleep and hitting the utility pole was just a stroke of poor luck that he didn't quite make it home first. Didn't we have a poster on these threads that recently posted nonchalantly about falling asleep and totaling his truck? Is it just me that thinks that is a irresponsible dangerous thing to do? Rates right up there with doing 25 in a 65mph speed zone on an icy road while taking pictures.
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The piss tests only detect the residuals from smoking weed, not the intoxicating effects.The residuals may be in your system for up to 30 days after you light up. The intoxicating effects only last a few hours. I agree treat weed the same as booze. But there needs to be a test for intoxication, not residuals.
Wouldn't a basic road side sobriety test do the job? No because that's hocus-pocus and coppers are just out to get you. Remember? Standardized field sobriety tests are unscientific and bogus. So you're saying a person can pass a standard roadside sobriety test and not be capable of driving safely? No I was trolling you. Thanks for being stupid. Now go back to posting nazi memes, phuuckhead.
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