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Originally Posted by longarm
Not yanking anyone's chain; I'm genuinely curious. What is it about THIS gun that renders it "obsolete" ?

Feature-wise, a good BHP is superior to nearly every commonly issued 9mm. Big sights, plenty of capacity, good trigger, good ergonomics.

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You can stop being a kchunt anytime lamebob.
And BTW gen five glocks are going for about the same.

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I think I'll be needing one

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I believe Canada still issues them.


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Good evening to you sir, I hope the day's been decent to you and you're well.

As far as I'm aware the Canadian Armed Forces is still issuing Inglis made HP to everyone but some of the door kickers. I want to say JTF2 use something else, perhaps a Sig of some sort?

Talking to guys who used them in Afghanistan, the only gripe was lousy magazines, but otherwise I didn't hear any reports of them not working.

Up to a couple years ago Australia still issued them, but I'm not sure what they're issuing now.

There's talk of replacing the Inglis with a polymer frame pistol, but as fast as the Armed Forces gets anything procurement wise accomplished, everyone else will have phazers before they get it all done.

All the best to you sir as the days get shorter.

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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
They're made in the US, not Turkey.


Thanks Bob.

Your point is clarified- further investigation reveals that Girsan is making their own version of the Hi Power, but the Springfield version is made in Geneseo, IL.


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Originally Posted by longarm
Not yanking anyone's chain; I'm genuinely curious. What is it about THIS gun that renders it "obsolete" ?



Know I used that term, so, my opinion.

Technology has moved on.
The "craptastic" pistols work very well.
Are durable, reliable, corrosion resistant, lighter,
cheaper to make/buy, simpler manual of arms.


Gotta laugh when cheaper is treated as bad.
Cheaper is always better if performance is not impaired.
Guns are expensive. Issuing agencies buy a bunch. It adds up.

Think of muscle cars.
The High Power is kinda like them.
Desirable for form and nostalgia.

Obsolete?

As in junk? Hell no!

As in not very many people that love them would choose them as daily
drivers over much distance. Nor for bad winter driving. Or for cross country
trips in August. Some might. Most just enjoy the style, the nostalgia,
The sound, the old school performance. Some, enjoy the wrenching they
require.

But comparing a 67 Camaro to a 2021 Camaro,
You gotta admit "We've come a long way Baby".


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So when they do one in stainless w a red dot cut itll suffice?

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Originally Posted by ratsmacker
I already have a craptastic plastic pistol, but these intrigue me, as it's damned near a carbon copy of the old Mk II I had back in the 1990s. It was one helluva shooter, I flat-wore that thing out. Yeah, I wanna recreate those "good old days" and there's not a danged thing wrong with that (and I shoot them a lot better than the craptastic plastic, too).
I also dote on 1911s and revolvers, how about that?


I like it and can identify!


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Ill proly buy the old school blued version, after i get a VP9.

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And everyone is already sold out of Mec Gar 15 rd magazines


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This is the image I was trying to post earlier. Finish appears to be a polished blue to me.


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Originally Posted by ready_on_the_right
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This is the image I was trying to post earlier. Finish appears to be a polished blue to me.

Nope. Dull.

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They'd have to charge at least 200 bones more for a high polish.

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The thing about a good HP and for that matter the 1911 is that, if you have to get in a gunfight with a handgun, there is really nothing better. They are not the cheapest. They are not the lightest to carry. They are not the most rustproof (although you can FNC or shake-n-bake either reasonably cheaply). They do not have the simplest controls. But they are the best at the one thing they were designed to do. The ergonomics are great. The triggers are great. You can get hits more reliably and faster with them than with anything else that doesn't have a compensator. That's why they remain relevant.

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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
The thing about a good HP and for that matter the 1911 is that, if you have to get in a gunfight with a handgun, there is really nothing better. They are not the cheapest. They are not the lightest to carry. They are not the most rustproof (although you can FNC or shake-n-bake either reasonably cheaply). They do not have the simplest controls. But they are the best at the one thing they were designed to do. The ergonomics are great. The triggers are great. You can get hits more reliably and faster with them than with anything else that doesn't have a compensator. That's why they remain relevant.

I have to agree with this.

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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
As in not very many people that love them would choose them as daily
drivers over much distance. Nor for bad winter driving. Or for cross country
trips in August. Some might. Most just enjoy the style, the nostalgia,
The sound, the old school performance. Some, enjoy the wrenching they
require.


An epic load of horse [bleep]. I just can't figure if you're serious.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
The thing about a good HP and for that matter the 1911 is that, if you have to get in a gunfight with a handgun, there is really nothing better. They are not the cheapest. They are not the lightest to carry. They are not the most rustproof (although you can FNC or shake-n-bake either reasonably cheaply). They do not have the simplest controls. But they are the best at the one thing they were designed to do. The ergonomics are great. The triggers are great. You can get hits more reliably and faster with them than with anything else that doesn't have a compensator. That's why they remain relevant.

I have to agree with this.



Nonsense


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Not nonsense. Fact. From a guy who can run his Glock with pretty much anybody, the G17 hits where I look because I have put many thousands of rounds of live ammo and more dry fire practice into making it do that. The 1911 and BHP hit where I look after MUCH less familiarization. They simply fit me, whereas the Glock works great, lasts ungodly well, and is accurate, but took a lot of practice to make it instinctive for me. There are many others who would tell you the same.

John Moses Browning knew how to make a gun fit the hand. Knew putting the bore axis low in the hand was important. Some modern makers could pay more attention to such things.

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Some of you guys could start an argument about pie and ice cream....

I’m not a Hi Power “fan”. At $1000-$1200, they just don’t do it for me, personally. I’ve owned several CZ75’s, and back when you could pick one up for less than $400, they were a helluva deal. Most I see now are pushing $600 or more. I still like ‘em, but not a “deal”, for a gun finished in black paint.

This new Hi Power, at a price point of $600-$650, looks like a “deal”. Forged frame/slide. Great fit/finish. Walnut grips.

It’s good to see a NEW, good quality, all steel, classic pistol on the market, at a good price. Would I buy one for EDC??? No.

Would I buy one to play with on the range?? Hell, yes.

I look forward to a $750 “Capitan” model, with a 500-yard ladder sight, because, “Why the hell not???”.

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