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Very cool background there, Rex.



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"Yes Sir on the .257. I reckon I thought that was implied since it was the subject of the thread. I should have clarified."



Well, umm, err.... the 270 W would have killed em deader. whistle

laugh laugh

joking sir. Thanks for the piX and congrats.


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Well, since retiring I have a lot more time for rifle loonyism. I got me a 6.5 Manbun this year - figured I'd see what all the fuss was about.
Originally Posted by jwall
"Yes Sir on the .257. I reckon I thought that was implied since it was the subject of the thread. I should have clarified."



Well, umm, err.... the 270 W would have killed em deader. whistle

laugh laugh

joking sir. Thanks for the piX and congrats.


Jerry

Well, since retiring I have a lot more time for Rifle Loonyism. I even got me one of those 6.5 Manbuns this year - figured I'd give it a try and see what all the fuss was about. I think it might be almost as good as the .257 Roberts! This was last week - the newest rifle's first kill:
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Since my last hunt with the Roberts in 2016 I have been blessed to also hunt successfully with the .358 Win, .338-06, 35 Whelen AI, .270 WSM, 6.5x55, .308 Win, .243 Win, .25-06, and 30-30. And there are more in line waiting their turn.
But I could have just used the old .257 Roberts about as well. It's a mighty fine round.

Cheers,
Rex

P.S. - My lucky shirt and lucky hat still work!

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Its the hat, used to have one so I know they work.........


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I think the ultimate cartridge is what was passed down from previous generations. If you didn't come from a family that hunted or used firearms, that puts you in a very important position. You will provide family heirlooms for future generations.

Either way, you are part of a great legacy. A custodian of your family's possessions.
---

Joe Grinder's Heirlooms

Joe Grinder was a quiet man,
Who spent a lot of time at the range.
He was a hunter,
A father,
And a Gulf War vet,
Who didn't deal too well with change.

It wasn't because he was older,
If sixty could make you that way.
He just wished folks would mind their own business,
Like he did, himself, every day.

"Stop livin' in the past, old man!
It's time for a new Creedmoor gun!
It's like your frozen in time,
And you've fallen behind,
Your 30-06 is all done!"

Joe smiled when those fools started speaking,
And recited in their uppity way,
The mistakes Joe was making,
And how to improve,
As if Joe was the one who had strayed.

But he never paid much attention.
He just sipped from an old coffee cup.
And pondered on all of his targets,
And if he could tighten them up.

But then came that morning, one Tuesday,
When a young fellow they called Jimmy Jay,
Saw Joe in his chair,
And decided right there,
To reward him with counsel that day.

For twenty minutes, Jimmy Jay jabbered.
For twenty minutes, Joe's interest swayed.
But Jimmy kept talking,
And Joe kept on thinking,
'I'll ignore him, and he'll go away.'

Then the range clock struck the half hour,
And young Jimmy asked of old Joe,
If he'd learned anything of importance,
From the story that young Jimmy had told.

Joe sat silent, considering his options,
Now it was his time to speak,
And tell off foolish, young Jimmy,
And rebuff his silly critique.

"I only shoot four guns, you see,
'Cause that's all that I'll ever need,
And in the forty odd years that I've used them,
They have never failed to succeed."

"The first gun I got was dad's old 44,
That he got from his dad, at ten.
It's been in the family for one hundred years,
Passed down from past Grinder men."

"The next two, I got from my uncles.
And neither came back from the war.
The hippies protested them going,
But I was proud of their time in the Corps."

"This last was from my lovely wife, Sarah,
When I returned from my war in Iraq.
It was a 30-06 from her daddy,
Who used it, himself, some time back."

"These things are constant reminders.
They're heirlooms that fed us,
And symbols of service,
But to me, they are much more that that."

"They remind me of family,
Now long gone in my past.
The youth of my father.
My granddad's great vigor.
And fun teenage times,
When the world was less angry,
And before my innocence passed."

"So go buy your new Creedmoor rifle.
You need to create your own merit.
When you're done,
Pass it down,
And remember my words,
It's a memory your children inherit."

With that, Jimmy Jay started speaking,
But Joe shook his head to say no.
The young man looked confused and frustrated,
Then waved and said he must go.

And Joe took a sip of his coffee,
He leaned back and let out a sigh.
He thought for a moment,
Then started to laugh,
Jimmy Jay was too young to know why!

He just didn't get it.
Youth got in the way.
But he'll realize it,
In time.
That old heirlooms remain bright and shiny,
When fads are all covered in grime.

- 2018, Stephen Redgwell

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That was GREAT Steve. I liked that!


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Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
Its the hat, used to have one so I know they work.........


I wasn’t going to say this but now I must.

That last pic SURE reminded me of my close hunting
pard that passed in 2017. They look like brothers
in that pic. He used a ‘boondocker’ too.

Yep, they do work.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Thanks Dan.

Here's a new rallying cry for North America.

Make memories, not magnums!


No criticism here Steve but

My magnums made many memories and still
will. I’ll not bother y’all with PIX but I have them.

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Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I think the ultimate cartridge is what was passed down from previous generations. If you didn't come from a family that hunted or used firearms, that puts you in a very important position. You will provide family heirlooms for future generations.

Either way, you are part of a great legacy. A custodian of your family's possessions.
---

Joe Grinder's Heirlooms

Joe Grinder was a quiet man,
Who spent a lot of time at the range.
He was a hunter,
A father,
And a Gulf War vet,
Who didn't deal too well with change.

It wasn't because he was older,
If sixty could make you that way.
He just wished folks would mind their own business,
Like he did, himself, every day.

"Stop livin' in the past, old man!
It's time for a new Creedmoor gun!
It's like your frozen in time,
And you've fallen behind,
Your 30-06 is all done!"

Joe smiled when those fools started speaking,
And recited in their uppity way,
The mistakes Joe was making,
And how to improve,
As if Joe was the one who had strayed.

But he never paid much attention.
He just sipped from an old coffee cup.
And pondered on all of his targets,
And if he could tighten them up.

But then came that morning, one Tuesday,
When a young fellow they called Jimmy Jay,
Saw Joe in his chair,
And decided right there,
To reward him with counsel that day.

For twenty minutes, Jimmy Jay jabbered.
For twenty minutes, Joe's interest swayed.
But Jimmy kept talking,
And Joe kept on thinking,
'I'll ignore him, and he'll go away.'

Then the range clock struck the half hour,
And young Jimmy asked of old Joe,
If he'd learned anything of importance,
From the story that young Jimmy had told.

Joe sat silent, considering his options,
Now it was his time to speak,
And tell off foolish, young Jimmy,
And rebuff his silly critique.

"I only shoot four guns, you see,
'Cause that's all that I'll ever need,
And in the forty odd years that I've used them,
They have never failed to succeed."

"The first gun I got was dad's old 44,
That he got from his dad, at ten.
It's been in the family for one hundred years,
Passed down from past Grinder men."

"The next two, I got from my uncles.
And neither came back from the war.
The hippies protested them going,
But I was proud of their time in the Corps."

"This last was from my lovely wife, Sarah,
When I returned from my war in Iraq.
It was a 30-06 from her daddy,
Who used it, himself, some time back."

"These things are constant reminders.
They're heirlooms that fed us,
And symbols of service,
But to me, they are much more that that."

"They remind me of family,
Now long gone in my past.
The youth of my father.
My granddad's great vigor.
And fun teenage times,
When the world was less angry,
And before my innocence passed."

"So go buy your new Creedmoor rifle.
You need to create your own merit.
When you're done,
Pass it down,
And remember my words,
It's a memory your children inherit."

With that, Jimmy Jay started speaking,
But Joe shook his head to say no.
The young man looked confused and frustrated,
Then waved and said he must go.

And Joe took a sip of his coffee,
He leaned back and let out a sigh.
He thought for a moment,
Then started to laugh,
Jimmy Jay was too young to know why!

He just didn't get it.
Youth got in the way.
But he'll realize it,
In time.
That old heirlooms remain bright and shiny,
When fads are all covered in grime.

- 2018, Stephen Redgwell

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


That was GREAT Steve. I liked that!


Thanks for the kind words.


Safe Shooting!
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Mangleums are not necessary.


I am..........disturbed.

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Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
Its the hat, used to have one so I know they work.........

Yep. And I have a green one too for when I'm in the woods... ;o)

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This was last fall with the M99 .358 Win. Another fine round.
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I'm late to the party but saw some earlier mention and discussion of the 300 WSM in comparison to .30-06, and the common claim of superiority based on higher velocity "lighter" short action, etc. etc. I don't think I've ever seen an action for the WSM line of cartridges that came in lighter than a long/standard action intended for the .30-06 family. You'd have to work hard to make an action lighter than Melviin Forbes has done in his NULAs and yet his model 24 (24oz) is intended for the .30-06 family and his model 28 (28oz) action is intended for the WSM family, etc.

Where does this notion of a lighter action for WSM cartridges come from and why has it never been put to rest?

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Because some people excel at and revel in picking the pepper out of fly sh*t.



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In this case there doesn't seem to be any pepper to be found?

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LOL, that's right!



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I love how when the fangirls are presented with indisputable facts, namely that the .300WSM offers purely superior performance to the .30-06 in a smaller lighter package due to superior cartridge design, they have to come up with something to salve their butthurt. So they trot out Melvin Forbes, maker of $4000 garbage rifles that don't hold zero in field positions. He's got so many pissed off customers he's on failed venture 3 (or is it 4?). My understanding is that he can't even use his own name on his rifles anymore as it was sold off in a bankruptcy auction. So now it's new new ultralight craprifles or whatever

Yup, Melvin is the perfect foil for you girls. Send him your money, get garbage in return, and pretend you didn't get screwed laugh

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As pointed out earlier, and ignored by you. M70s weigh the same, too.

Give it up, Bob. You’re over your head. (30/06 shoulder is too steep , right?).

BTW, I’m hardly a 30/06 “fanboy”. The last time I used a 30/06 to kill a deer (or anything else) was 1964.

But then, you’re not here to share information. are you? You’re just trolling.

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Originally Posted by southtexas
As pointed out earlier, and ignored by you. M70s weigh the same, too.


No they don't. A M70 short action weighs substantially less than a long action. Are you some special kind of stupid?

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Go look at the Winchester website. FWTs in both cartridges weigh the same . . Still throwing insults... Guess that makes you feel like a big man?

And please show your data. How much less does a short action M70 weigh?

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Originally Posted by southtexas
Go look at the Winchester website. FWTs in both cartridges weigh the same . . Still throwing insults... Guess that makes you feel like a big man?

And please show your data. How much less does a short action M70 weigh?



You do realize that not all the featherweights are the same barrel length, right? Longer barrels weigh more.

You really are a special kind of stupid.

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So please share your data (facts) with us, how much is the “substantial” difference in the weight of the actions ? It must be about the same as the weight of the steel contained in 2” of barrel, or about 1/4” of action

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