24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 23,502
7
79S Online Content OP
Campfire Ranger
OP Online Content
Campfire Ranger
7
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 23,502
Damn who would vote no on that type of contract wow. Oh wait greedy uaw members.

On Tuesday, John Deere's UAW members voted to reject an offer from the company that would have meant a 30% pay raise over the six-year term of the contract, along with an $8,500 ratification bonus and new paid parental leave, among other benefits boosts, while maintaining their zero-premium health care coverage.

Roughly 55% of John Deere's UAW membership voted down the deal. The initial offer was rejected by 90% of workers, and would have meant immediate pay raises of 5% and 6% depending on the worker, with 3% raises in subsequent years.

After workers turned down the second deal, Deere & Co. chief administrative officer Marc Howze told Bloomberg, "The agreement that we provided is frankly our best and final offer. In order for us to be competitive we have gone as far as we're gonna go."

Howze added, "We're not going back to the bargaining table. There's nothing else to bargain about."

Upon news of the second rejection on Tuesday of the contract covering more than 10,000 Deere workers in several Midwest states, Howze said in a statement that the company would "execute the next phase of our Customer Service Continuation Plan." Deere has kept operations at their affected plants running since the October 14 strike began by calling in trained, salaried non-union employees.

Deere spokesperson Jennifer Hartmann told FOX Business Wednesday evening, "We are continuing discussions with the UAW, but we believe we’ve exhausted our options economically – while still remaining competitive. Our employees currently earn the best wages and benefits in the industry."

When reached by FOX Business for a response to Deere's position, UAW spokesperson Brian Rothenburg said, "We are still on strike. The elected bargaining team Vice President [Chuck] Browning and the UAW team continue to discuss next steps."

"The UAW appreciates the community support of our members on the picket line," Rothenburg added.


Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.

Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,821
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,821
What else is in the contract.....like maybe language to close certain plants?

Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,821
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,821
Aint nuthin ever free.

If theyre offering you something theyre also gonna take away something.

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 8,793
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 8,793
They should all be fired and Deeere should continue with their salaried, non-union workers.

Deere should then move all operations to At Will States.

Screw those union commies.

Stupid should be painful, especially in this uncertain economy.

Last edited by High_Noon; 11/03/21.

l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right.
- Del Gue
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,821
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 17,821
And that is part of the risk.

IC B2

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,945
J
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
J
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,945

Originally Posted by hookeye
What else is in the contract.....like maybe language to close certain plants?



Originally Posted by hookeye
Aint nuthin ever free.

If theyre offering you something theyre also gonna take away something.



No fan of labor unions and especially not the UAW but this is often the case when union members reject labor contracts containing what sounds like 'juicy' economic packages... Ironically, the liberal news media reports the juicy stuff to the general public but rarely ever details the critical issues.

Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 21,832
Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 21,832
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by hookeye
What else is in the contract.....like maybe language to close certain plants?



I agree.
But I gotta say, I'd love to vote on that next year in our contract.
Sure beats the 3% raises we don't always get.
The $350/month insurance with $3 or 4k deductibles.


A smart man would try to give up that $8500 bonus in return for more
raise.


Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,818
Likes: 4
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,818
Likes: 4



"Whose bright idea was it to put every idiot in the world in touch with every other idiot? It's working!" -- P. J. O'Rourke
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 5,535
S
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 5,535
UAW=You ain't working!

Joined: May 2014
Posts: 5,817
O
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
O
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 5,817
Deere said ... they will "execute the next phase of our Customer Service Continuation Plan."

What does this mean?

IC B3

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,786
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,786
Originally Posted by High_Noon
They should all be fired and Deeere should continue with their salaried, non-union workers.

Deere should then move all operations to At Will States.

Screw those union commies.

Stupid should be painful, especially in this uncertain economy.



Bullshit, they are working with what they have...good luck to them.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 12,156
C
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
C
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 12,156
Originally Posted by joken2

No fan of labor unions and especially not the UAW but this is often the case when union members reject labor contracts containing what sounds like 'juicy' economic packages... Ironically, the liberal news media reports the juicy stuff to the general public but rarely ever details the critical issues.


From what I've read Deere is trying to get them to give up pensions, that's why it keeps getting voted down. As usual the media puts out a bunch of slanted BS and leaves out the real story.

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,786
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,786
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Originally Posted by joken2

No fan of labor unions and especially not the UAW but this is often the case when union members reject labor contracts containing what sounds like 'juicy' economic packages... Ironically, the liberal news media reports the juicy stuff to the general public but rarely ever details the critical issues.


From what I've read Deere is trying to get them to give up pensions, that's why it keeps getting voted down. As usual the media puts out a bunch of slanted BS and leaves out the real story.




And as usual the resident jack-asses start pointing the finger and shouting "commie"...too stupid to realize it is mostly working men trying to do for their families.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 5,817
O
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
O
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 5,817
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Originally Posted by joken2

No fan of labor unions and especially not the UAW but this is often the case when union members reject labor contracts containing what sounds like 'juicy' economic packages... Ironically, the liberal news media reports the juicy stuff to the general public but rarely ever details the critical issues.


From what I've read Deere is trying to get them to give up pensions, that's why it keeps getting voted down. As usual the media puts out a bunch of slanted BS and leaves out the real story.

The story is pro Deere. I thought the media was pro democrat.

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,786
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,786
Originally Posted by OldHat

The story is pro Deere. I thought the media was pro democrat.



Media is pro anything that will make a buck regardless of whose arse it has to lick.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 5,817
O
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
O
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 5,817
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by OldHat

The story is pro Deere. I thought the media was pro democrat.



Media is pro anything that will make a buck regardless of whose arse it has to lick.

Recent events show that to be false, obviously.

Joined: May 2014
Posts: 5,817
O
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
O
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 5,817
Originally Posted by JSTUART

And as usual the resident jack-asses start pointing the finger and shouting "commie"...too stupid to realize it is mostly working men trying to do for their families.

In the US the unions vote democrat overwhelmingly.

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,786
J
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
J
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 29,786
Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by JSTUART

And as usual the resident jack-asses start pointing the finger and shouting "commie"...too stupid to realize it is mostly working men trying to do for their families.

In the US the unions vote democrat overwhelmingly.




I don't give a flying fuck what they vote...they are doing for their own which is what we all do.

Or don't you think workers should be able to stand and bargain to do better...maybe you think they should just roll over and take a screwing like obedient dogs.

Screw you.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 23,546
Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 23,546
Likes: 1
ok, we'll pay you what you want, but we're gonna lay off half of ya to do it!

if its on face value a money grab by the union, shame on them, but I have to believe there is more to the story. It would be hard for any working man to walk away from that kind of offer.


have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,939
Likes: 1
J
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Sleepy
Campfire 'Bwana
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,939
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by JSTUART

And as usual the resident jack-asses start pointing the finger and shouting "commie"...too stupid to realize it is mostly working men trying to do for their families.

In the US the unions vote democrat overwhelmingly.


Local 798 openly supported Trump



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
Page 1 of 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

551 members (1234, 10Glocks, 01Foreman400, 1lessdog, 17CalFan, 10gaugemag, 61 invisible), 2,453 guests, and 1,168 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,192,403
Posts18,488,921
Members73,970
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.207s Queries: 55 (0.011s) Memory: 0.9104 MB (Peak: 1.0277 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-04 16:17:35 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS