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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
Melvin Forbes it to rifles what John Hennessey is to performance cars


Llama Bob is to opinions what a**holes are to "everybody's got one."



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Nah, he is more like a hemorrhoid.

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Originally Posted by TRexF16
How 'bout that .257 Roberts!? Pretty good cartridge, eh?

Why yes, yes it is. 😀


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Originally Posted by TRexF16
How 'bout that .257 Roberts!? Pretty good cartridge, eh?


Strange you’d mention that!!!

My gun dealer, cousin, has quite a fine collection of rifles worth much much more than what I own or could possibly afford.
He shoots a 721 Remington chambered for 257 Roberts. Shoots 100 grain spbt’s for all his game bigger than prairie dogs.

My dad’s favorite rifle was a Mauser 98 barreled/chambered in 257 Roberts. He liked Remingtons a lot, but he reached for that Mauser when deer season came around.

I had a 257 Roberts on a Mauser action. I sold it and now have a Remington Classic in 257. It’s unfired and I have qualms about shooting it. I have a nice 25-06 Classic and an early beat up 25-06 ADL which shoots so well I usually grab it when time to shoot a .25 caliber. The bluing is maybe 40%, if lucky, and the stock should be refinished.


I prefer classic.
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I love the 257 Roberts, in fact I'm considering it for my next NULA build. I've heard so many great things about short actions and it seems it'll fit in Melvin's model 20.

I'd have to add at least 8 ounces to my rifle if I wanted a 300wsm.

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Originally Posted by Pabst
I love the 257 Roberts, in fact I'm considering it for my next NULA build. I've heard so many great things about short actions and it seems it'll fit in Melvin's model 20.

I'd have to add at least 8 ounces to my rifle if I wanted a 300wsm.

I see what you did there...

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Let's Go Llama Bob!


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Originally Posted by moosemike
Performance aside I just don’t like the look of the .300 WSM cartridge and I do like how the 30-06 looks.



At least we have one honest guy. The .300 WSM stomps the .30-06 as a cartridge. If you don't like its looks and want to shoot the inferior cartridge because it looks super special to you, well, that's a personal problem laugh

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So if the 30-06 is so lame does that mean we need to trash the 30-30; 300 Savage; 303 British; 308 Winchester, etc???
Oh, almost forgot, let’s get rid of the 300 Weatherby. The action is way too long and heavy and that’s not even taking into account all of the valuable barrel space it takes up….


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I’ve got to quit reading this thread…..
I laugh so hard my side hurts….
My 30-06 reloading components are going on sale…
I’ll keep the 308, it’s stubby like the 300 Wimpy Shorty magnummmm.


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What about the 7.62x54r?

With everyone's favourite bullet, a Barnes 165 TSX (another debate perhaps?), the 7.62x54r pushes it to about the same velocity, but with less powder. Over 3000 fps with a 150. You do not know the power of the dark side!

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After reading this about my 30=06 - all the deer mounts on the wall just got up and walked out.

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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
Originally Posted by moosemike
Performance aside I just don’t like the look of the .300 WSM cartridge and I do like how the 30-06 looks.



At least we have one honest guy. The .300 WSM stomps the .30-06 as a cartridge. If you don't like its looks and want to shoot the inferior cartridge because it looks super special to you, well, that's a personal problem laugh


What am I going to do with all that extra performance in the Woods? 100 yards is a long shot for me. If I have to go 150 I feel like some kind of sniper or something

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I'd just like a nice short 24" under and over double with one barrel .30-06 and the other .257 Roberts.

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Originally Posted by Riflehunter
I'd just like a nice short 24" under and over double with one barrel .30-06 and the other .257 Roberts.


You could add a third barrel for the 300WSM but it would probably turn out as awkward as Llama boobs.

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Originally Posted by moosemike
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What am I going to do with all that extra performance in the Woods? 100 yards is a long shot for me. If I have to go 150 I feel like some kind of sniper or something

Eastern hunting is an unconstrained problem - shooting dog-sized deer at living room distances. Use whatever the hell you like.

Cartridge performance always has has and always will be driven by the western hunter.

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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
Originally Posted by moosemike
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What am I going to do with all that extra performance in the Woods? 100 yards is a long shot for me. If I have to go 150 I feel like some kind of sniper or something

Eastern hunting is an unconstrained problem - shooting dog-sized deer at living room distances. Use whatever the hell you like.

Cartridge performance always has has and always will be driven by the western hunter.


How do western bow hunters make those gosh darned 600 yard shots? Don't tell me there's a 300wsm equivalent for the bowhunter and none of us have known about it until now.

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Llama Deuce has spoken.


I am..........disturbed.

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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
Originally Posted by moosemike
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What am I going to do with all that extra performance in the Woods? 100 yards is a long shot for me. If I have to go 150 I feel like some kind of sniper or something

Eastern hunting is an unconstrained problem - shooting dog-sized deer at living room distances. Use whatever the hell you like.

Cartridge performance always has has and always will be driven by the western hunter.


You just proved you know nothing about the size of deer in the northeast

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Originally Posted by moosemike
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What am I going to do with all that extra performance in the Woods? 100 yards is a long shot for me. If I have to go 150 I feel like some kind of sniper or something

Eastern hunting is an unconstrained problem - shooting dog-sized deer at living room distances. Use whatever the hell you like.

Cartridge performance always has has and always will be driven by the western hunter.


How do western bow hunters make those gosh darned 600 yard shots? Don't tell me there's a 300wsm equivalent for the bowhunter and none of us have known about it until now.




There's no way he has a clue about bowhunting. Dude doesn't sound like he has a prayer of getting within 300 yards of a game animal much less 30

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