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I have never met a Christian who would miss an opportunity to proclaim loadly their foundation is Christ.

"For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.” Mark 8:38

"They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed." Titus 1:16

Vanna, we have someone here who needs to buy a clue!

I have not once been shy of my personal relationship with Christ and my constant dependency of the Holy Spirit. I've proclaimed it here many times.

That's not salvation.

If someone wants to say they are saved, it's not my place to agree or disagree, that's Gods authority and he didn't tell me either way.

Then there's those who proclaim to the world they 'saved' souls, they 'saved' many, them, I, me.... Uhhh, no you didn't.

Kent

And where would that part be, because the verse you just quoted sounds like it is talking about the many who have posted on here including yourself.
This Bible you and others keep saying you read and believe must be some other version than what I have read. Or, you guys are just a bunch legalist trying to get people to follow the letter of the law, something Christ warned us about. As much as you don't want to believe or see it, there was no book or scriptures that God gave anyone to make into a book or to teach from. That which you all keep quoting is known as the "traditions of men". Christ made it quite clear that he talked in parables and Paul agreed by saying the stories were allegories. But here you guys are telling all that the Bible is a literal book which in reality is calling Christ a liar. No wonder he said... And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? He gave us all the key to entire the kingdom, but you all hide the key or don't even know what the key is and keep those who were entering from entering and you refuse to enter in yourselves because it doesn't fit your legalistic view of a Book written in Allegory,mysticism, and parables.
It is so obvious that we certainly are not reading the same King James Bible.

How many times can you ask this (3) and not go back in this thread and find it, you sure as hell read, quote and comment on everyone else's posts.

Kent

"For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words ..." Mark 8:38

I've never met a Christian who said they saved souls. Maybe you have, but I have not. On the contrary all I have ever heard was the simple statement that a Christian's job is to proclaim the word of God and God does the saving.

Where did Christ say this, exactly?


You are not being clear ... you don't think the King James Bible is Holy Scripture? Or do you?

I know the bible better than you and never cherry pick.

I found it interesting earlier you used Mat 7 14 to reply to Rene maybe... not going back and look... made me laugh that you completely ignore the first verses of Mat 7, pretty much been claiming ignorance of that message which started this whole thing.

I've figured out you just wish to divert attention from the subject by attacking the messenger.

Kent

I can not read an insinuation. An insinuation is a state of mind of the reader. You were the reader.

You don't even know what you are replying to.

Kent

Not in your legalistic meaning.
So where did Christ say to read this book in a literal way?
It was because he turned the literal teachings upside down was the reason they killed him. And don't forget it was the church leaders, clergy, ect. that killed him. Those so called scriptures they were quoting back then, along with the same scriptures you quote now are exactly what Christ called the traditions of men.
FIRST seek the Kingdom, that was what Christ taught. And where is this Kingdom? Again, Christ taught that it resides inside of you. But where are you looking and are teaching/telling that this Kingdom is?

Mat 7:1 is about hypocritical judgments. I know that because Jesus said so. John 7:24

The disciples of Jesus judged - a lot. But you knew that , right. Acts 5:1-10, Gal 1:8-9

There is only one judgment Jesus forbids and that's spiritual, God's authority.

Problem you have is relating everything into the physical, as is religion's problem.

You may read the bible but you don't understand it.

Kent

That is some weird theology you got going on.

Where did Christ teach that the Kingdom resided inside of us? Where do you get this idea? You must of read it somewhere.

Christ taught that Scripture he quoted said he was the Christ. He did not say that Scripture was traditions of men. On the contrary, Christ loved and upheld all of Scripture. All of it. He said it clearly in Mat 5:17-20. He could not have been clearer.

So you don't think King James Bible is Holy Scripture? I'm not asking you about what I'm saying. I'm asking you what you think about the King James Bible.

When Jesus died, Peter’s hope was crushed. And he feared for his life.

But something happened three days later that rekindled his hope, and it wasn’t “Holy Scripture.” And that same something emboldened him to stand up to the very power structure that had Jesus crucified, and it wasn't “Holy Scripture.”

It was the Resurrection. He (Peter) very clearly and very specifically said so himself. The Resurrection…NOT the Bible…is the key apologetic event and the key component of the Gospel. The Resurrection…NOT the Bible…is the very foundation of Christianity.

Where does Jesus forbid this judgment? Where did you get this idea from?

Still ... Peter was taught from The Holy Scripture. Peter did not deny Holy Scripture. Peter loved the Scripture.

Not from Paul...

Did you find HC's Billy graham burning in hell post yet?

Kent

Always fun to watch the christians try to out christian each other.

Anyway, I can judge anything in this world as long as I do it fairly... if I say someone's a dipchit, they're a dipchit... Jesus doen't care cause he knows they're a dipchit too...

Kent