Discuss.

LMAO?

That reminds me

We got to get our Operation Christmas Child boxes ready before next Wednesday. I participate in FGM and Samaritan’s Purse international

https://www.samaritanspurse.org/what-we-do/operation-christmas-child/

Hope the big guy does ok.

We raise livestock Vaccines work.,

Not a lot of political motivations or money in livestock Wabi.

I might consider an experimental vaccine on a goat or calf long before I would on my grandchildren. I am begging my daughters not to do that to their children.

I wonder if AIDS made the jump to humans by vaccine.

I’m sorry to hear it, but do we know that what you imply, that his heart inflammation was caused by the vax, is in fact true? I’m not saying it isn’t, but, generally there is too much “correlation means causation” on the ‘Fire.

Nah. That was from Africans Fuqking Monkeys.
For real.

These aren't vaxes. They are experiments.

Franklin is a quack, deceiver and shill just like his father

Shouldn't we be praying for a fellow believer in peril?

PTL, amen


mike r

Can’t do that. He has deceived millions, just like his Dad. I’ll let our Creator deal with him, and I’ll sit this one out

You couldn’t be more in error than if you declared, the earth is flat.

Pretty big talk. Got a link? Meanwhile, you’re an anonymous guy on a hunting forum...brave.

But the earth IS flat. You familiar with the North Star (aka Polaris)? If the earth is spinning, the solar system is spinning, and the Milky Way Galaxy is spinning, how on earth is the North Star in the same place night after night, year after year, century after centuries? Think about it

Thanks for the astrology lesson dumbfugg.
Lol

His daddy patterned his “ministry” after Charles Finney. I’m not yet convinced that Franklin fell anywhere but right below the tree. He should have kept his personal decision to himself and not tried to make it a part of Christian Conscience. He has opened himself for deserved scrutiny and possibly ridicule.

This^^^

The Graham ministry will monster car crush your azz, as it sets out to do good things in this world. There’s not a damn thing that you can do to slow it down.

Why is a preacher urging people to do anything that doesn't concern religion?

I came from JimfromTN giving that Monkey a jab in the ass.......so you could say yes......

Nice, I knew we had to have at least one here!

Just another worthless Troll.

Both Franklin Graham and his father are fine men.
Billy Graham was one of the finest.

Point of interest the spinning earth and thus the North Pole oscillates on a slow 26,000 year cycle, go back 4,000 years and Polaris was just another star.

https://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/north-star-movement/

Blame Newton’s First for the inconvenient lack of precision.

Richard, what's being touted as a vaccine does not address the virus, only supposed to lessen the effects of it. A world away from vaccinating livestock

You do realize that the covid "vaccines" didn't actually meet the CDC definition of a vaccine, so they changed the definition, right?

Jim and Tammy Faye Baker
Oral Roberts
Joel Osteen
Jerry Falwell
Joseph Smith
Dali Lama
Buddha
Mohammed
Jim Jones

And a bunch of others- - - - - -

You do realize you’re talking to Wabi, right?

Comparing Joel Osteen to the Dalai Lama? Polar opposites.

So you would give your herd a shot that wasn’t tested and just rushed to market. Okay

Flew under the radar there.

It certainly could have happened that way. I could believe a Sub-Saharan would have his (or her) way with a chemp.

Maybe I would for a disease that was 100% fatal like Blackleg. But not for a little virus that clears up on its own 99% of the time. Wouldn't be worth the trouble.

Nope. I read that some groid in Africa fugged a monkey.

EDIT: I just read 12344mag's reply, which is entirely plausible - maybe even more likely..

Love to see what’s stuffed into the slumlord shoe box….

Don't normally weigh in on these things but I think Billy Graham was legit, a true Christian, and morally upright.

The only thing I know about Franklin is that he kind of resembles his dad.

Unless Billy Graham ripped you off, personally, or harmed you in some way, there are probably more worthy targets for insults.

mRNA treatments are not what you think of as a vaccine. They literally changed the definition of the word in the texts to include these new hands, because they are not vaccines.

China has a vaccine, though.

WTF? Lol

You already chose not to sit this one out with your big mouth. Sounds like you have a big piece of the deceiver in your life.

Then it made the groid to human jump when those yankee slave ship crews got tired of screwing each other and started diddling the cargo.

I would subscribe to this logic… religiously.

Make sure you take your “natural causes” booster you CNN Disciple.

The protection offered by their vaccine is waning. Now they’re going forward with mRNA technology.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1238684.shtml

Yep.

Covid is a religion.

Hawkeye,

The last time I said that Franklin was wrong about something, I had several friends "defriend" me from my friends list. This isn't even Facebook. LoL.
BTW, I still remained friends to them though.

I'd open up a can of John chapter 8 on Graham if I ever found him in the same church. He should know better than to preach a works based gospel.

HC

I get write-back letters sometimes. Had a kid in Zambia write me back.

school supplies, crayons, coloring books, flip flops, socks, hair berets, combs , hygiene, bar soap, tooth brush kit, dollar store toys per appropriate age. They really love flash lights. Can do some hard candy but food in general is no-go. No conflict toys like army men.

There is only “one work” that gets you into Heaven

Nice !

If I was a dick...I’d send em this Garth shît but I’m saving this garbage for the inlaws and inlaw-cousins.

This be like one notch better than Michelle Obama’s book

😃

Yeah, the work the Lord finished. ✝️
☕ 🙂 👍

That’s a clean miss Johnny, but have a good evening.

You truly made the 'has been' singer category when your greatest hits CD reaches Dollar General bargain bin...

Kent

Haha

50 cents.

Not at all. Billy said " There's many ways to get to heaven" That' a straight lie.

Humans and cattle are identical.GMAFB !

You can't be completely unaware that these death shots are not vaccines.

Did you get your mRNA shots yet?

Real vaccines have saved millions of lives and prevent some real carnage like that caused by polio. This one isn't real.

I feel badly for anyone who takes the word of Big Pharma,without duly researching the noxious substances which they want to inject into your body.

Was that one of his interviews?
I vaguely remember Larry King asking him a couple questions trying to pin him down.

Here's a quote on what Billy said about hell not being literally a place of fire.

https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/15false/Billy_Graham_Lies_About_Hell.mp4

Not what the Bible says

https://biblehub.com/john/6-29.htm

That's the first verse that came to my mind when you first made the response to my comment. I decided to keep it simple by referring to Christ's finished word of redemption on the cross. From reading your other statements, don't you believe that He did the hard part, taking the punishment we all deserve?
That would leave us with a free salvation of no works on our part, wouldn't it?

https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/15false/Billy_Graham_Is_Burning_In_Hell.mp4

I think that this preacher has enough of his transcripts to prove your point. Of course I believe that, contrary to either of the Grahams, that salvation is by grace alone through faith in Christ alone. They teach a multiple works false gospel. I didn't always know this as I didn't follow them, but did go back and listen to their Sermons. I didn't want to come to any conclusions based on the opinions of someone I don't even know. It saddens me since I have known many who used to follow Billy and were not aware of this.

I just want to know why god did this to Franklin?

Well, he is friends with Crappy Hamper.

Is this where you wanna be when Jesus comes back? Making fun of little ole Happy Camper?

Engrish please?

In the front of the line. 👍👍

I did notice the Crappy's back after his six day posting hiatus, while signing in to lurk every day. Wanted to see if he was missed I guess.
I'll bet he was dissapointed.

Better?
😁

God bless you Slum.

The Big Guy is ok. The F Graham pedophile, not so much.

So...you're saying JimfromTN is your dad?

Holy Crap... what a succinct brilliant statement.

Send that to the pope...

Like the NAPA auto parts guy telling me what type of heart bypass surgery to get for my dad.

This is worth reading. I suspect it was due to the vaccine. You have to wonder how many people are quiet about their vaccine side effects because they don't want people to know they made the wrong choice.

https://www.myocarditisfoundation.org/potential-causes-of-pericarditis/

Wabigoon, You are correct many vaccines work. I have had many vaccines. I recently got my shingles vaccine.

These vaccines are biologically different. That is the point. The technology is radically different. If you have been reading any threads you know that is true.

Read this. Just a few chapters.
https://www.myocarditisfoundation.org/potential-causes-of-pericarditis/

Most likely something irritated or attacked the pericardium. We don't know the details of his case but it is reasonable to believe the vaccine caused the issue.

I too believe they were/are Christian men. I did not agree with every thing theyu said, but I believe they were/are Christian men.

Looking back.... on the memory of.....

Now the poor schmuck has nothing left but his millions.

I'am loading up 80 boxes and heading up to Charlotte with them this morning.

Don't know anything about Franklin... having known many minister's kids, most weren't angels, and seldom live up to their father's legacy... but maybe he has.

Anyway Billy has a legacy, he brought the story of Christ to millions, I truly feel he was led by the Holy Spirit. Yet he was a man and all men are unperfect.

It's the exact way I feel about Paul. Of course I will be attacked for saying this about Paul... Paul brought Jesus to the masses, he did a good job as an unperfect man, he was led by the Holy Spirit. But his words are his, not God's, same as Billy Graham.

Kent

Way cool 😎😎😎😎

But just don’t go thinking all them good works are gonna earn ya the price of admission 🙂

What about Peter?

Good works like helping your fellow man is a natural byproduct of following Christ, it can't be taught or forced, it just is.

Kent

What about Peter?

Except he wasn't perfect either, will probably relate to your inquiry.

Kent

Apparently Billy Graham modeled his ministry after that of Charles Finney who was the primary figure in the Revivalist movement.

Charles Finney denied original sin, denied the substitutionary work of Christ and taught a governmental faith of works. Had the American church convened to consider his teachings (as it should have) he would have been rightly labeled a heretic and his teachings heretical.

Since Finney became influential pretty much any movement in America that is supposed to be Christian is influenced by this man and his teachings.

Make up your own mind about Billy Graham but this influence can’t be denied. It is a fact of history.

Nobody's got it right, not Billy, not Paul, not Joseph Smith, not Mother Terisa, not the Pope... not me... God didn't expect for us to get it right 100% in this world... and that's Jesus's life lesson... it's very simple.

Kent

I’d make my bet that God didn’t intend for anyone to get it THAT wrong.

What the hell does that have to do with this unproven mRNA vaccine

Yes. I couldn't decipher it.

I'm not asking this in an accusing way or to cast F.G. in a bad light but does anyone know if he did as Steve Hornady and require his people to be vaccinated? He employs quite a few people. Just asking, not saying.

Bad things happen to good people.

But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

yes, if you are equating old school vaccines with this new mRNA test gene-therapy, I'm going to have to call you an idiot. Wake up.

Another death in my community last week, 53 yr old male, got the JNJ shot one day, dead the next. All these spiked proteins react to some peoples system and cause blood clots and heart attacks.

Brother Kent;
Top of the morning to you my cyber friend and brother, I hope it's a good day for you folks down in your area and all in your wonderful family are doing okay.

Way, way back when, Billy Graham came to Vancouver for a crusade and of course the local TV station sent some keener reporter down to interview him and possibly find some fatal flaw to expose.

As I recall, Billy Graham and about 6 other folks went down to a local grocery store, picked up a van load of groceries, went to a local food bank and then Billy Graham spent at least an hour talking to the folks there - both the ones working and the folks coming to receive the food.

The reporter more or less quietly said they were pretty moved by the whole experience.

I've read Franklin Graham's book back when too, might still have it in fact. When the girls were little we got involved supporting Samaritan's Purse, especially Operation Christmas Child and we still do. I'm not sure that the girls don't too now that I think about it.

Anyways, a little town two valleys over had a catastrophic flood a couple springs ago Kent and naturally the part of town containing a mobile home park which was build on a flood plain got savaged. Funny how any natural disaster seems to hit the mobile home parks, you know?

Before any Canadian government whatever was in helping and before the Canadian Red Cross - there were boots on the ground from Samaritan's Purse helping folks there. They were helping with clean up, food, whatever they could.

Again the local news station out of Kelowna came away impressed.

That's all I know about that Brother Kent, which admittedly isn't much.

As you said, we're all human and most days I'm "extremely human" and struggle to keep my own life between the ditches. Some of my fellow humans do a much better job assisting other fellow humans than I do, that much I'm sure of Kent.

I'll add Franklin Graham to the list of folks I pray for daily for sure.

All the very best to you all as we head into cooler and much shorter days.

Dwayne

Good on you, slumlord. Best post yet.

I dont follow good works philosophy. I made a commitment with I was 18 yrs old. I am sanctified and justified and one of the elect. I have security of the believer as well.

I do the boxes and have done them for almost 20 years. I think it’s a great think to bring a little bit of happiness to some dirt poor kid who lives in a miserable shîthole.

Our church buys the boxes and for $5 you can pour all types of needs in it. When school starts every year, they put those spiral notebooks on sale for like .25 cents and same on those crayons. Big time loss leaders.

Instead of filling the school bus outside for entitlement ghetto rats in the walmart parking lot. I send my stuff around the world

Most my upstairs bonus room, I have bins with stored up and organized with all that type stuff. Keep an eye out all during the year for things that might make a cool addition to the box.

slumlord;
Top of the morning to you sir.

Good man and good post.

I'm with you on spreading some happiness if we're able to. Why not, right?

Good luck on your hunting and all the best.

Dwayne

Karma is a bitch

We sent 300 boxes the other day. Our congregation is about 50 on a good day. The sending gets bigger every year, I think we started about 8 years ago.

Good on ya Slum!
We do maybe 4-5 annually, and then pick a kid from Sevier Co. Salvation Army Angel Tree.

It's not enough though.

The heart condition developed years ago. Sorry sheep.

I haven't gone thru all the responses yet so I hope I am the first.
Show us on the doll where the bad man touched you.

You are an idiot. Billy Graham was a great man and I do not see anything sinister about his Son.
But I do agree he should have kept his mouth shut about the Vax.

I would think there is a tremendously huge difference in Slumlords gifts and Billy Franken's gifts.
I would venture to say that Slumlords cash he spent on gifts came from his own pocket and not from the pockets of fleeced sheep.

Yep.

When our faith goes no further than private internal devotion, we’re missing out on the essence of Christianity. It’s good and it’s important, but it’s not enough.

What are you most grateful for…? Is it God’s sinless perfection…? Or is it God’s sacrificial intervention…?

It’s not when we hear that Jesus is perfect that something rises up on the inside of us. What makes something rise up on the inside of us is when we hear that perfect God sent His perfect son into our mess for our benefit.

That’s the Gospel.

It’s “as you do unto others you do unto Me.” That’s the essence of Christianity. What if THAT had been the posture of the church for the last 1700 years…?

Salvation through Jesus Christ.

Good on you Slum !!!

He lets Ren play with the crayons on occasion too

The CF theologians and epidemiologists debating the relative merits of preachers and medicine on the same thread is pretty cool.

happy camper vs. johnny loco is epic.

Learning the True Path to heaven continues to be confusing and amusing.

#praisethelordandpassthemonkeyphugginvaccine


mike r

Hi lvmiker. Hope all is good out there with y’all.

The conclusive path to heaven, to me, is really very simple…and it’s based on the goodness of God and the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.

God Bless!

I guess that makes sense if you consider yourself the government's livestock.

All is well, thank you. Your faith and tolerance are admirable.


mike r

Flat earther is going to be pissed you left him out.

Franklin Graham Comments on Biden Election

I don't agree with everything the guy says or does, but he's not afraid to take a stand for what he believes.

FG quote...

The more I read about young Graham, the more i like him.

Wabi, this isnt 1960. Back then, laws restricted Big Pharma from making billions off vaccines.

Polio and dpt and pertussis etc vaccines still work. They were worked on for years in testing before being cleared. In the 90s laws were changed.

Now Big Pharma and the deep state have control of the AMA, CDC, WHO and FDA. GET A FREAKING CLUE. THIS IS NOT YOUR DADS BIG PHARMA.

Honepotting and coercion and threats used by the Cabal and CCP work. Thats how they effect fraud in our elections.

You freaking think the vaxes for covid were tested for more than a month?

Ok, explain this. MSM news all in Sept was that COVID-19 cases were UP 300% from Sept 2020.
How could that be as 200 million Americans were double vaxed already?

Can you not add?

GOD said to look at the fruit the tree produces before partaking. What good fruit has Biden or Faukki produced.
Who is your god? Bitme, Faukki, the MSM, CDC who gets $4.6 billion a year from Big Pharma, .Gov?

Can you not remember Lancet having to retract the BS they intentionally printed about Hydroxychloroquine.?
Trump said a month ago he has learned Pfizer controls the CDC.
Flynn said 3 weeks ago the vaxes are not good.

GOD said the vipers venom wont harm you. HE was talking about your salvation. HE didnt say tge vioers venom wouldnt end your life on earth.

Why does WH staff, Congress and their staff and employees of Pfizer, Moderna and J an J not have the vax mandate?

Why do they want to force the kids to get it?

Why do they lie and say kids with a corona virus cold say tgey have COVID-19 when they test positive with the PCR test which cant distinguish the difference?

Well RC, it's too late now?

Thank you Dwayne, it's tolerable here and just getting into the weather that makes Az the great state it is.

As a young man I attended 2 Billy Graham revivals, in stadiums packed to the top. My experience with him is those few hours and he was impressive, I respected his commitment and feel he was sincere in his belief in Christ and his hope for mankind.

Anyway, I know you are a good man and Christ follower. May you and your family share many great times and get through the tough times.

Good to hear from you brother.

Kent

Maybe not. Take 1200 mg a day of NAC, Glutamine and White Pine tea to detox.

Maybe every vial of vax isnt poisoned. Maybe they planned to let some say, as you, that they are doing well, to convince others to take it, while planning to get you with a booster later.

If they can make effective vaxes for mutating Covid, why cant the make effective vaxes for mutating Hiv?

The vaxes reduce your immunity.

Take low dose Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin or Quercitin, Zinc Sulfate, 4000 C, 10,000 IU of D, selinium, etc to prevent future viral infections.

I posted the video of Gates saying a year ago that this Covid wasnt bad but the next one will get everybodys attention.

Did anyone hear on the Buck and Clay radio show yesterday whether they were referring to a specific western european country or all of western europe reporting 73% of those now dying of COVID-19 disease are FULLY VAXED.

Luckily myself and Billy Graham and everyone else are only judged by God and not by self appointed 'christians' here...

Kent

Rong. Wasnt it Africans fughking fughking african monkeys.

So, what do believers think about what his dad, Billy says at the 50 second mark?

https://www.kjv1611only.com/video/1...cement_Billy_Graham_Is_Still_In_Hell.mp4

He's exactly right.

What source is that, that's twice you put up a link that has... Billy Graham is still in hell... you make this up or just support it?

Kent

You are wrong ken. I responded with a different link to rifle builder.

I see that you hold to a Universalist view of salvation: that Muslims, atheists, Mormans and Buddhists go to heaven.
That must be comforting, but it's not what God's Word says.

Jesus said, "I am the way, the Truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Did you know that He also said that religious people like Billy and Franklin Graham were lost and on their way to a literal hell.

You may wonder why someone who starts an endeavor to encourage many of us to fill shoe boxes with age appropriate toys and school supplies for the less privileged would go to hell?

Geeze....not Mormons either?


Just Baptists.

It's cool big James.

So it's Billy Graham is burning in hell...

Do you support the judgment of salvation by anyone other than God?

Kent

The reason that Billy and Franklin Graham Cracker are not good people is this: They promote “easy-believeism”, which is a lie and is not in the Bible.

Just “believe in Jesus”, just “accept him into your heart”, just “make a decision”, just “confess your sins”, etc.. WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!

I’m not intentionally trying to offend anyone, because I used to trust in that garbage 30 years ago. However, you religious people that trust in your pastor, church, or “religious service” need to wake up and find out what our Creator really says in the Scriptures!
Got news for you: lots of non-religious people that live a good life will be in heaven. MANY religious, self-righteousness hypocrites won’t be there

Are you Happy Campers butt boy/sock puppet?
Lol

No, being Baptist doesn't get anyone to heaven any more than Unitarian Universalist.
There's too many Baptists that heard big name preachers say things like, "turn from your sins, give your life to Christ, promise to do such and such, make a commitment..."
None of those things save. Why?
It's because they are things called"good" works.

Ephesians 2:8,9
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast."

The Bible places good works of man in conflict with the undeserved kindness offered by God as His FREE Gift to "whosoever believes" the gospel. You've read Wabigoons posts of John 3:16 before. Here's another Bible passage that explains the same, from the book of Acts.

"Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."

Don't make me get my gas meter Happy.

That was a dumb comment. HC and I disagree about what I just wrote about. How many drinks u had tonight, dum azz? Can you read or comprehend what someone writes? Or do you simply have a knee-jerk, infantile emotional reaction and response to ridicule subjects that your Neanderthal IQ can’t grasp?

Quit while you are behind dummy

To recap this, I don't think that those of us who listened to some Sermons from these men are lost. There's much truth in their Sermons , including the gospel. The problem is that they added to the gospel here and there. Most of the time, I noticed it was in the very end at the point they call the " invitation" and prayer to be saved. That's when subtle works were added. It's easy to miss if you aren't listening very closely. I already mentioned what those works are they told people must do to be saved in a previous post.
However, IF you or anyone has decided to give up on trusting your works and instead places faith in the Real Savior, He gave His promises throughout the Bible. ie.

"If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son."

I John 5:9...

That verse is one of many reasons that we should not believe someone because of their celebrity status as a preacher, likability, or any reason other than this saith the Word of God.

You got pretty jazzed off that comment so you must be his butt boy.
Is Happy hurting you?

"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh."

Listen Up Laughable-“man”, you are way out of your intellectual depth if you want to take me on, and it’s obvious to anyone that reads your childish posts!
My advice? Go to your local Kindergarten Playground tomorrow and insult and bully some 4-5 year old kids till you make them cry. Perhaps you will get your fix.
OK, after stooping to your level and talking to you, I want a shower

Chill out men.

True that.

This is a tough place.

LMAO

You reprobates better listen to hc and r4l. They control the portals of heaven.

#godsgatekeepers

ptl, amen


mike r

Happy camper has me on ignore.
Noooo!!!!!!!!!

Crappy Hamper says all the people in that video are going to Hell Wabi.

Yes; I must bend over and take juvenile insults that were unwarranted and inflammatory? I think not. You should be conversing with Laughable-man, not me or HC.

Ruger,

I don't think salvation on the part of the sinner is easy or hard.
Jesus clearly did the hard part by offering Himself to experience all of the torments necessary to appease the justice of His Righteous Father. Wouldn't you agree that This was in our place. The gift of life was already purchased by Him.
When I read the theme of the gospel of John, it says

"And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.". 20:30...

Does this contradict what He told the Pharisee Nicodemus in chapter 3?

Bending over. Sound about right.
Lol
#sodomy

Thanks OH. It’s not that I don’t believe that the vax caused it because it’s known as causing derangement of the vascular endothelium, enabling thrombosis.

Of course, blood clots — strokes, etc — can occur from causes other than the vax also. That was my point.

Are you retarded?
Can you look at a post header and and see who is being addressed?
Wabi was speaking in general and specifically to TRH, the OP.
It's not all about you cupcake.

If not love, respect one another.

Can't tell these zealots schit.

You two head injury types seems to be drawn together.

One love Wabi.

I'm plumb tuccerd out, good night good folks.

🦫

Dizzamn cuz.

Ain’t no “zealot” here, Laughable-man! Course you are too stoned/intellectually impaired to comprehend what I previously wrote, so I will try my best to break it down for you in rudimentary grammar that you MIGHT be able to understand.

I don’t claim to be a Christian

I don’t go to church

I reject the teachings of the churches

I severely dislike the teachers/preachers and their hypocrisy and “holier than thou” attitudes

I don’t agree with HC, and many others on the CF that buy into “mainstream religion”. I call them out on things I know are not true

That being said, I don’t tolerate overgrown juveniles ridiculing others because they think they are an easy target, and they can get their rocks off with no impunity (might wanna look that word up Laughable-man). No charge for the free vocabulary lesson; my pleasure!

So you are supporting the accusation that Billy Graham is in hell?

Kent

"Judge not", especially if you are cognitively grossly impaired.

I support the Bible truth that,

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."

Is that clear enough?

Ya it's clear, you justify it through Paul what Jesus absolutely forbid and the most offending thing to God.

Kent

I wonder if Crappy Hamper is ever lonely in his very small and shrinking congregation?
Even Ruger4Life seems to have jumped the Crappy wagon.

Outstanding advice; can’t go wrong with this

So you don't believe half of the New Testament books either?
Oh. ..
You, NaVelGayser and other gospel deniers should get together and start your own cult. He's looking for a feeling of acceptance from what he just said.

Nope; just avoid the No Valor Hunter bandwagon. There’s no award for riding on the coattails of of imbeciles with a sub-par IQ

You're confused, but we knew that.

I don't need anything but the Jesus part... you are the one denying Jesus through Paul.

I want to hear you say Billy Graham is loved by God and saved... since you insinuated he was in hell with your links.

Kent

I don't think that Billy Graham is in hell.

Yeah...naw.

Amen brother Jim.

Kent

Crappy's just jealous of Franklin because he has a following.

Rather; no charge for the failed lesson.

HC,
Are we wrong to believe Jesus still expects believers to be baptized according to His instructions?

So you are saying JimfromTN is your Dad?

half mud puppy....half monkey.....jimfromtn...you are 12344's father.......bob

Prime example of a Libtards capabilities of understanding life.

Donut boy! Your words!

https://www.samaritanspurse.org/operation-christmas-child/mission-and-history/


Today’s pic and deadline. 172 boxes from our little church for the Franklin Graham/Samaritan’s Purse mission work we support. A few more came after I took this pic





A typical scene

Good on you...

I also made a promise when I was 18... to watch over my Aunt and Uncle's son (mentally retarded) if anything ever happened to them... I became Rudy's Legal Guardian about 5 years ago...

Sure wish Rudy or anybody... any more... could be as happy as those kids seem...



I fought forest fires for years... Boss used to say "Put the wet stuff... on the red stuff..."

John Fogerty wrote... "Lord... and when you ask em how much should we give? They only answer more more more more..."

Damn hard to find a purpose some days... Strange times... Wet stuff seems to do absolutely nothing to the red stuff anymore...

Glad you are dialed in on SP... Looks BEAUTIFUL...

A very worthy cause

You’re a good dude Slumlord. Your faith clearly goes further than just your private internal devotion. “When you do these things to the least of these brothers and sisters of Mine, you do them to Me.” That’s the essence of Christianity.

" Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back. 31 [a]Treat people the same way you want them to [b]treat you. 32 If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them" luke 6:30-32

"But when you [a]give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your charitable giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you." Mat 6:3-4

You do accept the words of Christ correct?

Bash a guy for being charitable because he hurt your feelers.
What an azzhole.

I give, lend help to and participate in community mission work without the want or need for public recognition.

I only posted this in open to call attention to a ministry at hand that goes on daily with or without attacks from secular humans, apostates, false teachers and downright devils.

It’s also a worthy ministry that many could get off their high horse and give to.

There are lots of good ministries that don’t require cash or funds be sent into a dark unknown rathole.
Physical needs being met and time/labor being put forth to help a needy person in God’s name are ones I can see direct results from.

This thread is about Franklin Graham and after both his father and him have been attacked and even accused of burning in hell... ya it's appropriate to show examples of their ministries and outreach.

Kent

You don't need to justify your motives to me. I did not respond to you. My response was to antlers.

I don't think I have ever attended a church that did not have a shoe box operation in progress this time of year. I've heard testimony from those who receive the shoe box and they have been grateful.

I'm sure their website shows their ministries.

People who read the Bible know what it says about works and material justifications.

Personally I have respect for the graham family ministries. I accept their testimony as Christians.

Charity is an interesting subject. I have never been able to figure out if most people do it or hardly anyone. What do you think?

i'm still pissed at his old man for having those hours long tv specials back in the 3 channels days. your choice was lawrence welk, billy graham cracker or the flying nun.

Ones love for God is *chiefly* demonstrated, illustrated, and authenticated by loving others. Period. When you open the New Testament and ask the question, "What does it look like to be a follower of Jesus...?", it's crystal clear.

If you don't 'get' anything else, here's the thing that should describe Jesus’ followers, here's the thing that should characterize Jesus’ followers 'more than anything else', here's what He said to His closest followers before He left the earth - "By *this* everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

It's not by how much Bible you know or memorize, it’s not by the gold cross hangin' on your neck, it's not by goin' to church on Sunday morning, it’s not by ‘following rules’, it's not your church bumper sticker, it's not what kind of family you were born into or raised in, it's not that you were baptized, it's not the ‘way’ you worship, it's not by policing other people's behavior, and it’s certainly not by having a high and mighty attitude.

"By *this* everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another." The defining characteristic of a follower of Jesus…according to Jesus Himself…is how they treat other people.

word

I thought you didn't accept the New Testament?

You agree with Mat 6:3-4 don't you?

So which ones did Christ love more the kids in the picture or the crack whores in Memphis?

I have to admit the kids with their Christmas shoe boxes are pretty cute.

Ha .. He was a big deal on television wasn't he. Of course, now a days we have Keanu Reeves, sporting a high school beard, slaughtering half of gotham(I may have the city wrong) and walking away with a slight limp.

Why don't you comment to HC, take him to task, quote scripture on his blatant judgement of Billy Graham's salvation, twice insinuating he's in hell?

Kent

I am not a christen.....and even I can see that the grahams were and are good people..

hc and those like him are hateful ...the exact opposite of the grahams .....bob

What this thread needs is a good ole Religous persona sock puppet troll Near Death experience hand of God intervention fable.
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Something for the rubes to read and believe in again.


Some of you are being played to the max by Happy Camper.

Like a cheap plastic toy guitar.........

SMH.....

What I can do, is post a cowboy hunter, singer.

Joel Olsteens face makes me want to take a dump.

I call him the grinner. He reminds me of a grinner.

Yes sir!

Kill Opossum at every opportunity.

The Grahams being Christian know that goodness is meaningless.

“If the world hates you, [a]you know that it has hated Me before it hated you." John 15:18

I remember something like, Works without Faith are like a tinkling bell,?

You are naive.

Take a look in the mirror old hat.

"And He said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.” Luke 7:50

Thanks Hat! Our first grand daughter is named Faith.

You are a rube....

Old Hat and wabigoon... you need to get the beam out of your eye before you look for a mote in ours.

Why are you silent on Happy camper's judgement of Billy Graham's salvation?

Kent

It's always fun to watch the Christians condemn each other to hell.

Who have I condemned?

Well?

How do you know?

Where?

Stay cool brothers in Christ.

Did you miss the entire thread?
Don't be thick old timer.

Remember This.

For the most part, yes I did.

Get an honest gig strider1.

And you beleive verbatim in a book created and crafted by man for his own agenda,s over the centuries.
That is undeniable truth just based on all the different branches of christianity.
Cause man wanted things his way and not listen to others beliefs about god.

Just start your own religon and bible for your own needs and purposes.


All to keep rubes like you in control for power and benjamins..

Tell me about all the missing books of the bible and tell us who, how, and why man decided and not god to include or exclude in the earliest ones circa 300AD to 450 ish AD

Oh what church started up all that back .
And then explain who and why started making all the other branches of christianity and how they started selecting what they wanted in and out of bibles to tailor them for their own agenda,s.


Tell me every word in the bibles of all branches are Gods exact and unwavering words man would never dare tailor for his own purposes.


You are a rube...
Following a crafted religious sock puppet troll called Happy Camper playing you like a marionette.

You used to be a decent respectable poster before you fell in with him over the last yr.
If you are that easily manipulated by a online troll.
Then you truly are a rube and must have no life other than on here.
Sad....

Now you are seen as a fool....


No one on here has ever had their religious beliefs or what they say about their beliefs slammed and taken to the level as Happy Camper has.
That speaks volumes when members that normally dont argue with people of faith on here at all.
All start attacking 1 person that shows up out of the blue preaching this that and the other.
Maybe just maybe we see BS.
Big BS...

Maybe we can get a near death hand of god intervention story from your bud Happy Camper soon.
Among all his other BS stories he has posted on here.

Maybe you can help him with some???

SMH.......

Praying for you Rory. May you have good heath, and happiness.

Thank you Wabi.
Unfortunately I feel you have fallen under a troll.

Trolls will go to great extents to spin their game.
For their own agenda of control .

The web can be a slippery slope.

I wish you the best you are a good person.
But I think you are way too trusting of your fellow human being at times.
It is not a bad thing being a part of your faith and beliefs

But when others take advantage of a person like that.
It is sad seeing it happen.

I have been a Christian for almost 50 years. Honestly, do you think I'm some stupid rube who has just now heard your objections and counter points to faith in Christ. I've heard it all. Believe me when I tell you the atheists and non believers here are absolute amateurs when it comes to critiques of Christianity. I spent countless hours debating and listening to it all for decades among professional atheists - not sportsman.

Let's take your first point ... "And you beleive verbatim in a book created and crafted by man for his own agenda,s over the centuries. That is undeniable truth just based on all the different branches of christianity."

That is just a bald claim - a bald claim is one not based on evidence. It's just your opinion. There is no science or logic that necessarily makes your claim true. In fact it is abviously vacuous. If you have 10 people in a room and 9 are wrong but 1 is correct. The 9 errors DO NOT make the 10th

The existence of a supernatural Creator is based on evidence ... see the Kalam Cosmological argument or the Teleological Argument. This is just a small foundation on which to build, but it gets the ball rolling. There is much much more.

Oh.....

And Rory is a 4 letter word.
Loved by Few
Hated by Many
Planet wide.


Mostly cause I did my Job and feelings be dammed...

March or Die.......

Don't get too caught up with OH, Renegade.

He's is just a trumped up Zoroastrian.

I know nothing about Happy Camper other than his posts here, and to be honest, while I don't agree with everything he says, I find many of his religious posts to be sound. Why? Because I read the Bible, and I take the Bible very, very serious. I take the Bible as Truth.

I am a true and devoted believer to Jesus Christ.

I said nothing in that post about a person beliefs or faith.

I said man has tailored Bibles and created branches of christianity for his agenda,s
And man has decided what is included or excluded in bibles and religons he has tailored for his agenda,s

Anything more you add is a moot point to me.


You keep on being led by a troll for whatever it accomplishes for you.

I like that Zataran’s myself. The red beans n rice.

No Rory is not a 4 letter word. I enjoy your posts on the campfire and I appreciate your concern.

No kidding. Wish these preachers would find themselves a pulpit.. elsewhere.

All this preachy stuff just highlights their dumb gene.

Nobody resists Christianity because it loves too much; nobody resists Christianity because it’s too welcoming; nobody resists Christianity because it’s so willing to carry other peoples burdens; nobody resists Christianity because it’s too giving; nobody resists Christianity because of Jesus; and nobody resists Christianity because it’s so forgiving and so open and so gracious.

What people find so easy to resist about Christianity is the posture of so many of its practitioners…that of “we know it all, and we’re better than y’all.” A high and mighty, hypocritical, spiteful, even hateful attitude toward others.

If that’s your Christianity, if that’s your approach to following Jesus, are you doing anybody…other than yourself…any good…?

Tell me about early christain conventions like I mention.
Which you have not answered other than with some vague analogy.
And who was making decisions on what books to formally recoginize to be used in the bible.

Was God their with them making sure every word was his word and his word only.


Please......


Cause I can easily google fu all the early christain conventions during the late roman empire when they was deciding and formalizing the early church and what they wanted in and out of the earliest formalized bibles.

I did it all before yrs ago on here.
And people didnt like it.
Cause it is historical fact those events occurred
Giant "cut copy edit paste" sessions by man.
Not God....

You are totally advoiding the gist of what I said.
Putting you fingers in your ears and closing you eyes.

Tell me 100% of what is any bible in any branch are gods exact words and meanings.

You cant....

Cause the fact all the different branches and bibles exist.
Proves man has crafted this for his agenda,s thruout time.

We are to Love/respect one another, what is wrong with that?

How do you know this? You just assume this to be true because you assume God does not exist or does not intervene in the lives of man.

Once you believe, truly believe, in the supernatural reality of God as *The Creator* of the universe then the idea that He could intervene in the lives of men through a an inspired book is a small step.

What Christians beieve is that God inspired men to create a paper book. That is what makes it Holy. Because it is inspired and directed by the Holy Spirit.

The spiritual world is very, very real.

You don't read the Bible. If a person does not read the Bible they don't know what Christianity is or what God wants.

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"May God Bless us all", Amen.

I will answer your questions, but first, please tell me do you believe God is real and He exists? Do you believe that the spirit world is real?

I believe in God .
I have said many times before.
My belief is not your belief.
Nor are any individuals beliefs at their core anyones else's belief no matter what they profess.
That is what understanding and perception is.
Everyones is always different in its context.

The my way or the highway system is for dominance, control, power, and money.
Man agenda,s....

Has been since the dawn of time.

Man...

Years ago I ran across a pic
Jesus giving a soldier the last smoke in his pack.
I have looked for that pic to no avail.
Using every wording I can doing google fu.

Pretty generous of him.
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Wait, what? you told me the spirit was all about symbolism.

Anyway don't play dumb about HC and the links he put up, 2 of them, titled Billy Graham in hell and Billy Graham burning in hell, right in this thread. I don't chase guys from thread to thread but this one is alive again so let's have at it.

wabigoon is involved also because he continues in this thread but doesn't confront HC on the most offensive to God, one man judging another's salvation, claiming God's authority to denounce someone to hell.

This is the problem with organized religion, they turn a blind eye to what they consider their own instead of confronting.

Kent

Okay, thanks.

I believe Holy Scripture, known as the Bible, is The Word of God because I believe God is real. I mean actually real. I believe God miraculously inspired and protected His Word (Special Revelation) through out history. So I don't believe the Bible was just a bunch of dudes sitting around taking notes.

No Christian forces anyone to believe anything. Christianity does claim that it is THE ONLY true way to God (The Creator). If that offends you then, oh well. "So have I become your enemy by [a]telling you the truth?" Gal 4:16

ALL religions have been used for dominance. That has been true since the dawn of time. That does not make Christianity false. It makes men evil.

The men and women who actually knew Jesus personally and chose to follow Him...people like Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, James, Andrew, Mary, Martha, and Paul...the men and women whose faith laid the groundwork for the evangelization of the entire world, did so without the Christian Bible itself. And they received salvation without even having the Christian Bible itself, as did many, many followers of Jesus who came after them.

There were tens of thousands of Christians before there ever was a Christian Bible. The Christian Bible didn’t even exist until the 4th century. The Christian Bible did not create Christianity. It’s the other way around. The Christian Bible was created because of Christianity. Christianity would still be true even if there were no Christian Bible.

Using symbolism to communicate does not make it unreal.

Show me the links.

I'm tuckered out, Pray twice, and post inn the morning, may God Bless use all,

This is false. All the Christians in the first century used the Old testament. You would know that if you read the bible. The verses are extremely clear that Christ used the bible to teach.

You keep trotting out that falsehood no matter how many times you are shown to be wrong.

Read the thread, don't act dumb, your self proclaimed ability to debate is compromised.

Kent

Me too. God bless and good night!

The Old Testament (Hebrew scriptures) is NOT the Christian Bible.

And the Hebrew scriptures (the Law and the Prophets) meant nothing to the Gentile Christians. It wasn’t their history, and it wasn’t a covenant with them.

Jesus sometimes referred to the Hebrew scriptures when He was speaking to Hebrews, because that’s all they had…that’s all they knew. It was their history, and it was a covenant with them.

Answer the questions about the formation of the early church and creation of the bible during the late roman empire.
And the numerous mtgs over a period of 150 to 225 yrs
And tell me where God was when man was deciding it all.
Who,s ear did god have in those events telling whoever the following

This means this
It is written like this.
Leave this out
Dont forget to include this.

Dodg,evade, and innuendo attempts at slight with verse is all anyone seems to get from you......

One small example.
The people that kiss rattlesnakes or whatever with them.
Read the KJV correct??
So if you are reading and Believing the KJV as your foundation reference source for faith.
What are the snake types reading and understanding that you are not.
Who started it.
God???
Why didnt god share the snake thing with all if those words were his for man to abide by.

Man started snake stuff for his own agenda.

Are the snake kissers saved
Do the snake kissers think you are saved



What about the JW,s
Are they saved

Catholics are they saved

Mormons
Are they saved.


And do they see you as saved.



Man.
Bibles.
Branches of christianity.

All tailored and created by man for a agenda



No way all of these could exist if it was lock step zero variation set in stone Gods words and his words only.

How many people in power thru out the ages have created religons and bibles for their own needs and manipulated Gods words for their agenda,s or own desires......

It’s a good thing that the Christian Bible is NOT the foundation of Christianity.

Tiny Tim

Snake kisser ?

Is that the slippery slope after meat gazing ?

I dunno..


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That's not what they said. Again, if you read you would know his.

That is not what Christ said. If you listened to Christ you would know that.

I directly answered your question - Holy Spirit.

"You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world." 1 John 4:4

My hope isn’t anchored to anything that can be read from...it’s not anchored to a book (the Christian Bible) that didn’t even exist when Christianity first began.

My hope is anchored to an event ~ the very same event that kindled the dwindling hope of Peter and John and James (the brother of Jesus) and the rest of the first followers of Jesus.

The Resurrection is the determinative event of Christianity. Both Jesus and His atoning work are the supreme revelatory work of God.

And it didn’t happen because of the Christian Bible. The Christian Bible exists because of the Resurrection.

Apostle Peter says that his hope is anchored to the Resurrection of Jesus, period, NOT a book.

“In His great ‘mercy’ He has given us ‘new birth’ into a ‘living hope’ through the ‘resurrection’ of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil, or fade.”

Christ is not a destination, but a companion on the journey. He's everyone's companion and no one has special privilege regardless of what they claim.

Kent

Nice... short and spot on.

"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Pet 3:9
"Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”" Matt 14:33

You are rejecting a book while quoting from a book.

Peter was taught from The Holy Scripture. Peter did not deny Holy Scripture. Peter loved the Scripture.

I wonder if OH and HC think that there is limited space in heaven?


Maybe they act the way they do so people will fall for their schit and not get in?

The 144,000 ?

The first fruits lol

Top cut-n-pasters

"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Pet 3:9
"In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?" John14:2
"After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands," Rev 7:9

In reading through this thread I have a question on us judging others. There has been much said about not doing that and saying anything negative about Franklin and Billy G. Are we not judging by saying anything positive too?

Should of known to stop after the first kiss LOL.

Judging is about judging a person's salvation, claiming God's authority. We can and do judge a person on actions and worldly issues. We absolutely can judge a murderer, thief, liar... or someone doing what we think is good, we can judge a person's actions and defend ourselves against them or praise them. The world is ours and the spirit is God's.

Kent

Yes, we are.

The Bible tells us the world is satans.

WWJD

You can say you don't like Billy Graham all you want, for whatever reasons make sense to you, doubt Billy Graham would even care... until you say he's burning in hell, then God cares.

Kent

No...
You have not answered a thing I have put out.
Other than what you choose to cherry pick or put out for a snarky fall back to the bunker reply.


You are waste of time and a denier of historical truth.
A my way or the highway type..

Useless.........

God cares about every word we say and every thought we think.

"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed." Gal 1:8-9

Satan is a word man gives to our evil side, sin. God gave man and mankind freewill here, it's on us, not a name we use to absolve ourselves. Sin is real, depression, hate, all the negative emotions... you can call it Satan and demons if you want, but it's us. And then there's the Holy Spirit... good, love, forgiveness.

You can give powder to either and take away power from either... most of us do some of both.

Kent

"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

"For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few." Mat 7:14

"Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour." 1 Peter 5:8

I bet you suck at dodgeball also.

"Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men," Col 3:23

I understand all of that. The point I'm making is that we should be as careful in our positive judgements as were are the negative. There are some people that I feel made it to Heaven and I tend to keep that to myself. There are those that I have had doubts about and it's the same for me. I also won't promote a person to much of a degree unless I have had a one on one experience in life with. The Bible to tells us to know them that labor among you. I can't do a very good job of that with people like Franklin G. I can with my own pastor and close friends though.

Happy Camper does not accept repentance.

Where?

Something interesting going on that's been going on since the beginning. People looking for ways to divide, argue, disagree, criticize, belittle, demoralize, dehumanize, marginalize. Imagine instead if those same people invested exactly as much time looking for ways to agree, sympathize, edify, educate with kindness, show mercy, have compassion, etc. Imagine if they spent more time doing it than the other. Imagine if they spent all their time doing it.


Wonder what the results would look like?

No wonder God looked down and was disgusted with what we had become.

Brother Kent;
Good morning, I hope all the odd weather we've been having up here has missed you all down there and that you and your fine family are well.

I just wanted to say thanks for the previous reply and sincere kudos for the thoughts in the quote.

It is certainly the place where I'm at in my life Brother Kent, that much I'm sure of.

Anyways that's it and I hope you all have a great week.

Dwayne

You did, you little monkey.

"We know that we are from God and that the whole world lies under the control of the evil one.”" 1 John 5:19

"“I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. He has no claim on me.” John 14:30

"And the devil took him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time, and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will. If you, then, will worship me, it will all be yours.” And Jesus answered him, “It is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.’”” Luke 4:5-8

True

Last night, I was reading Matthew Chapter 4, the parallel of Luke 4.
It was interesting to note that the most vehement critics of truth on this forum fit the profile of Satan here like a glove.
That is one reason that I gave up on some hard hearted devil's kids. There's a lot more who are open to God's kindness.
In the real world, if someone shows no interest, we politely move on to others the Lord puts in our path. Here, on the other hand, have full time rejects that try over and over to turn others from God's grace.
Because of that, I made a decision.

People could tolerate Happy Camper?

You can't believe in an infinite, all powerful, and all knowing God and then say that he is disgusted with his creation.
Do you see a little dichotomy there?

You are confused.

It is you that turns people away from God.

You're just a run of the mill asshat with an inflated opinion of your own importance.
The only credibility you have here is with your fellow retards.

Want me to post some more of your quotes to prove it?

How about if I post some of your quotes.
They might just get the attention of those paid to read these forums.

The Lord judge you according to your works reject.

You are an enemy of God.
You are in NO position to judge in matters pertaining to the gospel.

Go for it asshat.
You are an inconsequential clown.

Don’t confuse the pittance you are paid to post your links ad nauseam with others getting paid to read this forum.

Wasn't that a John Lennon song?

The only thing I have ever seen you post have been old pictures and attacks against Christians. Is there something else?

Not Christians.

Just you and HC.

That’s a lie! He posts many things but only attacks Charlatan’s. There is a big difference. If you weren’t so obtuse you would know that.

Wrong again you Anti Christianity Troll.

Billy Graham is in hell for helping all those black kids.....


Dang!

Jim be tha debel.
Lol

Pretty good eh?

Hahahaha!

Show me a post where I have attacked Christians in general and not you or Crappy Hamper in particular. I am a Christian.
I don't think you or Crappy are very good Christians, you're both too full of yourselves.

It has also seemed to me you are extremely critical of believers in general in past postings. I was surprised to read this. Good for you.

The fact that I am a Christian has been stated before.
Show me where I have been critical of Christians in general.
There are several Christians here who take criticism directed at them personally to generalize it to Christianity.
Happy Camper and OldHat stand out prominently.

krp and Antlers are the type of Christians I identify with.

Some people are very good at keeping secrets.

Yes, I'm guarded about speaking of personal salvation either way. I knew I was pushing it calling out HC to say Billy Graham was saved, but it was rhetorical and in response to him insinuating BG was burning in hell. I knew he wouldn't answer, a sock puppet, a personality conjured from someone's mind, he's not a real person. Mostly I wanted to see what response, from the self appointed christian leaders here to HC's judgement of damnation of Billy Graham.

Of course they ignore it, let it slide, they think HC is one of them, he can do no wrong. They are hypocrites. HC is laughing in his hand.

Kent

If you're a Christian wouldn't it be better if you identified with Christ? I mean that is what it's about. Honestly, do you read the Bible. At all?

I mean krp and antlers don't appear to believe in any Holy Scripture.

Brother Dwayne, I always appreciate a comment from you, thank you.

Kent

It was no secret.
You and Crappy Hamper have probably run off or alienated many Christians or potential Christians with your holier-than-though, know-it all, judgmental rantings.

I believe the Jesus part...

Kent

Guarded about speaking of personal salvation? I have never heard of a Christian with such a mindset. Christ disagrees with your position.

Oh, so now you are saying HC insinuated? Which post is this?

And there you are passing out judgement and showing you are clueless.
Are you and Crappy related?

Which Jesus part? The part that comes from the Bible or the part that people make up in their imagination? God told us to only trust the part from the Bible.

"For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many." Mat 24:5

You should take your passive aggressive questions and put them where the sun don't shine.

I have never met a Christian who would miss an opportunity to proclaim loadly their foundation is Christ.

"For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.” Mark 8:38

"They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed." Titus 1:16

Vanna, we have someone here who needs to buy a clue!

I have not once been shy of my personal relationship with Christ and my constant dependency of the Holy Spirit. I've proclaimed it here many times.

That's not salvation.

If someone wants to say they are saved, it's not my place to agree or disagree, that's Gods authority and he didn't tell me either way.

Then there's those who proclaim to the world they 'saved' souls, they 'saved' many, them, I, me.... Uhhh, no you didn't.

Kent

And where would that part be, because the verse you just quoted sounds like it is talking about the many who have posted on here including yourself.
This Bible you and others keep saying you read and believe must be some other version than what I have read. Or, you guys are just a bunch legalist trying to get people to follow the letter of the law, something Christ warned us about. As much as you don't want to believe or see it, there was no book or scriptures that God gave anyone to make into a book or to teach from. That which you all keep quoting is known as the "traditions of men". Christ made it quite clear that he talked in parables and Paul agreed by saying the stories were allegories. But here you guys are telling all that the Bible is a literal book which in reality is calling Christ a liar. No wonder he said... And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? He gave us all the key to entire the kingdom, but you all hide the key or don't even know what the key is and keep those who were entering from entering and you refuse to enter in yourselves because it doesn't fit your legalistic view of a Book written in Allegory,mysticism, and parables.
It is so obvious that we certainly are not reading the same King James Bible.

How many times can you ask this (3) and not go back in this thread and find it, you sure as hell read, quote and comment on everyone else's posts.

Kent

"For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words ..." Mark 8:38

I've never met a Christian who said they saved souls. Maybe you have, but I have not. On the contrary all I have ever heard was the simple statement that a Christian's job is to proclaim the word of God and God does the saving.

Where did Christ say this, exactly?


You are not being clear ... you don't think the King James Bible is Holy Scripture? Or do you?

I know the bible better than you and never cherry pick.

I found it interesting earlier you used Mat 7 14 to reply to Rene maybe... not going back and look... made me laugh that you completely ignore the first verses of Mat 7, pretty much been claiming ignorance of that message which started this whole thing.

I've figured out you just wish to divert attention from the subject by attacking the messenger.

Kent

I can not read an insinuation. An insinuation is a state of mind of the reader. You were the reader.

You don't even know what you are replying to.

Kent

Not in your legalistic meaning.
So where did Christ say to read this book in a literal way?
It was because he turned the literal teachings upside down was the reason they killed him. And don't forget it was the church leaders, clergy, ect. that killed him. Those so called scriptures they were quoting back then, along with the same scriptures you quote now are exactly what Christ called the traditions of men.
FIRST seek the Kingdom, that was what Christ taught. And where is this Kingdom? Again, Christ taught that it resides inside of you. But where are you looking and are teaching/telling that this Kingdom is?

Mat 7:1 is about hypocritical judgments. I know that because Jesus said so. John 7:24

The disciples of Jesus judged - a lot. But you knew that , right. Acts 5:1-10, Gal 1:8-9

There is only one judgment Jesus forbids and that's spiritual, God's authority.

Problem you have is relating everything into the physical, as is religion's problem.

You may read the bible but you don't understand it.

Kent

That is some weird theology you got going on.

Where did Christ teach that the Kingdom resided inside of us? Where do you get this idea? You must of read it somewhere.

Christ taught that Scripture he quoted said he was the Christ. He did not say that Scripture was traditions of men. On the contrary, Christ loved and upheld all of Scripture. All of it. He said it clearly in Mat 5:17-20. He could not have been clearer.

So you don't think King James Bible is Holy Scripture? I'm not asking you about what I'm saying. I'm asking you what you think about the King James Bible.

When Jesus died, Peter’s hope was crushed. And he feared for his life.

But something happened three days later that rekindled his hope, and it wasn’t “Holy Scripture.” And that same something emboldened him to stand up to the very power structure that had Jesus crucified, and it wasn't “Holy Scripture.”

It was the Resurrection. He (Peter) very clearly and very specifically said so himself. The Resurrection…NOT the Bible…is the key apologetic event and the key component of the Gospel. The Resurrection…NOT the Bible…is the very foundation of Christianity.

Where does Jesus forbid this judgment? Where did you get this idea from?

Still ... Peter was taught from The Holy Scripture. Peter did not deny Holy Scripture. Peter loved the Scripture.

Not from Paul...

Did you find HC's Billy graham burning in hell post yet?

Kent

Always fun to watch the christians try to out christian each other.

Anyway, I can judge anything in this world as long as I do it fairly... if I say someone's a dipchit, they're a dipchit... Jesus doen't care cause he knows they're a dipchit too...

Kent

Discussion about religion is a good thing.

Oh well. I quit associating myself as a christian some years ago... now I just follow Christ... hope the subtlety of spelling christian with a small c isn't lost on anyone.

Kent

The first followers of Jesus didn’t have ‘the Christian Bible’ that we have today. Somehow many people have gotten the idea that the Christian Bible ‘is’ Christianity, and as the Christian Bible goes, so goes Christianity. For me, nothing could be further from the truth. Christianity does not rise and fall on the integrity or the verifiability of the Christian Bible.

Christianity preceded the Bible; the reason we have the Christian Bible is because of Christianity. There were many thousands of Christians before ‘the Christian Bible’ ever came along in the 4th century.

Jesus told His Jewish followers that their scriptures pointed to Him. He said that He was the fulfillment of all in what we call the Old Testament. And some of His followers believed Him, they saw that it lined up with Him and the things they were seeing. They started believing that He was the Messiah who was the fulfillment of the Jewish scriptures. And then He was crucified...game over, lights out...clearly He was wrong and they were wrong about Him. And there were no Jesus followers immediately after the Crucifixion. And they no longer believed that Jesus was the son of God when they saw Him die.

And then He rose from the dead and the whole thing got started; and suddenly all those Jewish followers went back to those scriptures that Jesus said told of Him and concluded that He was right, they’d lost faith, He was back, they were back, and everything in their scriptures pointed to Him.

Christianity preceded the Christian Bible. And if you never opened a Christian Bible or the Old Testament; if you never saw a Christian Bible or an Old Testament; if suddenly the entire Christian Bible or Old Testament vanished, it would do nothing to undermine Christianity.

Because Christianity began when Jesus rose from the dead, and His first followers recognized that He was who He claimed to be. People followed Jesus after the resurrection because of the resurrection. That’s how Christianity got started. It is not near as fragile as many might think; it certainly does not hang by a thread of some passage in scripture…or by any scripture or the Christian Bible itself…it’s much more sturdier than that. If it was that fragile, Christianity would have never survived the 1st century.

'God works in strange, and mysterious ways"

It could be were it not for the self righteous booger eaters that condemn all beliefs that differ from their own.

That should cue up a cascade of scripture quotes and threats of eternal damnation to that fiery furnace. LMAO

PTL, amen.


mike r

Well, instead of that let me ask you this.

If a religious guy didn’t try to convince you your differing belief or lack thereof was wrong, why the fugk would you listen to him?

Huh? I don't understand your question.


mike r

Amen.

It is so simple, many "don't get it", I have to pinch myself at times.

As for the first two it says Satan is the ruller, not Satan's. There are many Scriptures telling us the world belongs to God. In both the Old Testament and the New Testament. God created it and allows Satan to play in it. But most certainly it does not belong to Satan.

As far as Satan saying something believable, believe Jesus. He says Satan is a liar.

Settle down, Nancy. You're not the only "Christian" here.

Where do you get information about Jesus?

We should at least have respect for one another.