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Sir Bulkie,

My CH4D Canntool handled .510-caliber quite easily.
Old Barnes Original 600-gr/.510 were beautified nicely with it.
Maybe I have a new and improved model or mine just doesn't realize it is not supposed to do that ?

My arrow is the 485'ish Grain FN Cast bullet leaving the barrel 1750ish ... She's ready.

Sir Bulkie,

I had previously looked there and saw the image and read this:

This popular tool will roll a cannelure groove on any jacketed bullet from 17 to 45 caliber.
Completely adjustable for depth and height. One setting will produce thousands of bullets.
Also useful for making a second cannelure to lock the core to the jacket to control expansion of hunting bullets.
Precision machined throughout. The cutting wheel is hardened to 59C Rockwell, so it will never wear out!

Image is wrong, and the caliber-capability range might need updating too:



Dang ! If mine is right-handed, then the "old" one is left-handed, which is something I had not noticed before !
Here is my model from CH4D that has the beefed-up lever and is .51-caliber capable:




Above has been presented previously. Brass on left above is for .510/.338 Lapua Magnum Improved.
(Brass on right is .400 Whelen-B for next batch of bullets.)
Some who have owned the Corbin canneluring tool liked the CH4D better, they say it is better built, more stoutly constructed.
Since my CH4D is required for no more than .51-caliber canneluring, I am happy.

Yes, bled promptly, the meat was tasty for a mature buck in the rut.
I saute'ed some diced tenderloin with onions and mushrooms for my supper tonight.
It was to die for, said the buck.

smallfry, you have shown excellent judgement on the .450 Rigby thread.
It deserves recognition by membership in the Knights of the .458 Winchester Magnum Brotherhood.
Choose your sir name please.

That thread does have some interesting material that could be quoted here,
to harken back to the days when the .458 WinMag needed defending.
Much has been debunked since then.

Recognizing the greatness of the .458 WinMag does not have to be a chilling effect on commerce.
Sure, it may sometimes stifle the sale of a lesser known .458-caliber rifle and ammunition,
but it also spurs the proliferation of rifles for the .458 WinMag and its ammunition and components.
And one can still own and play with all the others too.
Have your cake and eat it too.
I like your idea of turning an FN/SC/Portugal M70 .338 WinMag into a .458 WinMag.
Now that I have realized it only takes an unblocking of the rear of the magazine and a shortening of the bolt-stop-ejector,
I will do that too, soon as the GUNSMITH gets caught up on his backlog, for I have a .500 Jeffery languishing there at the
GUNSHOP & SPA FOR WAYWARD RIFLES.
That one is just for fun, not a serious rifle like any .458 WinMag is.
I need the GUNSMITH to re-barrel the M70 .338 to .458 WinMag.
I can do the magazine unblocking and bolt-stop-ejector shortening myself if need be.
Even a late model .30-06 M70 can be used by adding on the bolt face enlargement by GUNSMITH.
No milling of action bridge needed for up to 3.6" COL.

Sir Jerry,
Your 450-grain TSX load at 2418 fps from your .458 WM+ Beauty will no doubt leave a good blood trail
from whatever angle you hit the vitals.
I look forward to your images of dead deer.

I stopped by the local emporium and there was a Happy Hunter getting the disembodied head of his buck B&C scored.
I overheard that it went 150-yards after being shot with a .300 WinMag and there was no blood trail initially,
though the buck was "double lunged" or shot through both lungs with a handloaded 180-gr TSX.
It ran about 50 yards then turned 90 degrees and then started bleeding on ground for another 100 yards.
Happy Hunter kindly texted me a couple of images of his deer on the spot at my request.
There was an exit wound, through rib cage with no shoulder bone or heart hits.
The deer was shot at close range, 60 to 70 yards.
Happy Hunter estimated the weight was about 180 pounds on the hoof.
I "unofficially" measured the rack outside spread and it was a hair over 20 inches (B&C uses inside spread, IIRC).
It had a very symetrical 8-point set of antlers.

The.458 WM+ will more likely make that blood trail start right where the deer was standing when hit.
The blood trail length may be zero yards long, or more, that's as precise as I can predict.