Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Kyle~ Guilty Or Not Guilty?

Not guilty and the jury should agree. That being said, not sure about the merit of a 17YO walking around armed in a powder keg of a situation.

Rittenhouse was stupid for being there at all. If you play in mud you get some on you. When he saw a bunch of animals there a wise man would have left. A foolish boy stayed until he had to shoot people and now he may end up in prison for life. It would be different if he was in his own yard. I think he is not guilty of murder but he was stupid and it may cost him dearly.

...Jury deliberations began on Tuesday morning in the trial of Mr. Rittenhouse, who was 17 when he came to Kenosha with a semiautomatic rifle amid unrest over a police shooting and fired eight shots, killing two men and wounding a third. The five charges he faces include first-degree intentional homicide, which is called first-degree murder in other states and is among the most serious charges on the books in Wisconsin. If convicted of that charge, he could face life in prison.

Beyond those five counts, Judge Bruce Schroeder on Monday told jurors to weigh some less serious charges. That could prove significant, legal experts say, because the lesser charges offer jurors a path to compromise if they disagree on the most serious offenses. For example, on the charge of first-degree intentional homicide, the judge told jurors that they also had the option of finding the defendant guilty of second-degree intentional homicide or first-degree reckless homicide.

“The lesser charge implicitly invites a compromise among the jurors,” said Michael O’Hear, a professor at Marquette University Law School in Milwaukee, who said requests for juries to consider charges less serious than the ones a defendant originally faced were common.

James Kraus, a prosecutor in Mr. Rittenhouse’s trial, told reporters that his request to allow jurors to consider lighter charges on several counts was standard rather than an admission of weakness in the case.

The judge’s instruction on lighter charges was seen as a win for the prosecution. But in a victory for the defense, the judge on Monday dismissed a sixth charge against Mr. Rittenhouse. It was the least serious, a misdemeanor charge of illegally possessing a dangerous weapon as a minor. ...

Personally, I firmly believe the jury should unanimously find Rittenhouse not guilty of ALL charges, released and left alone to get on with the rest of his life a free man, ...BUT... unfortunately, what I'm expecting to more likely really happen is this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/12/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-charges.html

This statement is 180* from what America is.

Time was, in my country and, I believe, your country, that people were expected to turn out, armed if need be, to deal with disturbances of the peace and good order. Indeed that is why I quoted Robert Peel, earlier, because it was a principle from the common roots we have that the people would turn out, taking responsibility for protecting their community.

FWIW about a century ago relatives of mine, and many others besides, turned out with their guns to hunt down a gang of outlaws running wild in the region, robbing and murdering people. One of them was wounded by local citizens in an exchange of fire, and a few days later after being wounded again was captured by another group of local citizens not far from where my family has held land for the last 170 years. Another turned himself in, and the third was shot dead by another bloke, a farmer. These blokes who dealt with the bandits were hailed for it. Nowadays they'd probably be charged.

It seems to me, from this distance, that the young bloke turned out the way that people were, at one time, expected to do, and that there's a segment of the population which can't abide that he did so. That sort of self reliance, rather than dependence on the State for protection, seems anathema to them.

Well said. Exactly right.

WE are having trials in this nation, that should never see the light of day.... just to satisfy the radical left and their communist agendas....

We saw this in the Trayvon Martin trial, too. Clear case of an armed neighborhood watchman trying to keep an eye on a suspected prowler while coordinating with the police via cell phone. In that context, he was attacked by the suspected prowler, badly beaten, and finally drew his gun and stopped the attack, leaving the attacker dead. Those were the obvious facts, yet he was put on trial for murder.

If he is declared guilty it will only be due to the Lefts’ constant threats to burn this country’s urban centers to the ground.

I would on the one hand caution my son if he wanted to do what Kyle did but I’d also be damned proud that he desired to “be the change he wants to see”.

Kyle’s only mistake was the idealism of the young.

As has been said he is clearly not guilty and ought not to have even been charged. If he is declared guilty it will only be due to the Lefts’ constant threats to burn this country’s urban centers to the ground.

The Marxist/communist are changing the definition of right & wrong.

sounds like the defense didn't do enough on researching the jury. They have a liberal activist on there, at least one.

In a big bowl of turds, which ones don't stink?

They are trying to.

But that dog won't hunt.