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When I was guiding deer and elk hunters we had a stead fast rule. Bolt handles up, always. Cant go off by accident and instantly able to put into action when needed. SMARTEST ADVISE I HAVE EVER SEEN ON THE FIRE! I had a 700 oops years ago (safety release and pew)... been up bolt ever since. His advice is bullschit. I am not a remington guy. Think I have only ever owned 1 remington rifle that I shot. But I thought the deficiency in the rifle was that the rifle could fire WHEN YOU DROPPED THE BOLT? If that is the case, repeated opening and closing of the bolt on a chambered round might not be the best plan here. As I said, not a remington guy and could easily be wrong here.
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When I was guiding deer and elk hunters we had a stead fast rule. Bolt handles up, always. Cant go off by accident and instantly able to put into action when needed. SMARTEST ADVISE I HAVE EVER SEEN ON THE FIRE! I had a 700 oops years ago (safety release and pew)... been up bolt ever since. IT begs the question; Why not just get rid of that POS 700? How do you keep the bolt closed with it up? Must send losts of time looking for dropped cartridges.Might work in a stand!
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I always keep my safety on, don't point my muzzle at people, and keep my finger off the trigger whether I'm crossing a creek or not.
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Y'all carry and hunt any way you want...
I am either cold chamber... or bolt up hot. When I carry bolt up I wedge a piece or corn between the bolt handle and the stock so it can’t fall down. I know stuff. My bolts are all positive and firm, but I guess I could see that if they were "loose". This was also the common practice when I hunted in Africa. Muzzle control and bolt up on a live chamber. That is the dumbest schit I have read in my life.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Y'all carry and hunt any way you want...
I am either cold chamber... or bolt up hot. When I carry bolt up I wedge a piece or corn between the bolt handle and the stock so it can’t fall down. I know stuff. My bolts are all positive and firm, but I guess I could see that if they were "loose". This was also the common practice when I hunted in Africa. Muzzle control and bolt up on a live chamber. That is the dumbest schit I have read in my life. I guess you know more than the PHs in Africa when hunting dangerous game. It was very common and worked well.
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when I did mostly still hunting, I always carried a hot chamber. It did not take but a moment to open the action if I had to cross a creek or a fence. With me mostly stand hunting now, I walk to the stand with an empty chamber, and don't go hot until seated and ready.
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What the hell do you all mean by bolt up? Doesn't the bolt then fall back to the rear, leaving the action open and if you have a live round in there, doesn't it go flying out?
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What the hell do you all mean by bolt up? Doesn't the bolt then fall back to the rear, leaving the action open and if you have a live round in there, doesn't it go flying out?
There is a midway point that works on Mauser, M70s, and Ruger (maybe some others) that will keep it the round in the chamber and not be fully cocked until you close the bolt all the way down. Bolt up doesn't mean all the way up. This dates way back in Africa with many of the hunters when hunting dangerous game.
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I guess you know more than the PHs in Africa when hunting dangerous game. It was very common and worked well.
No it did not work well. You were instructed by a fugking moron.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I guess you know more than the PHs in Africa when hunting dangerous game. It was very common and worked well.
No it did not work well. You were instructed by a fugking moron. It predates you and you are basically clueless in this practice.
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What the hell do you all mean by bolt up? Doesn't the bolt then fall back to the rear, leaving the action open and if you have a live round in there, doesn't it go flying out?
There is a midway point that works on Mauser, M70s, and Ruger (maybe some others) that will keep it the round in the chamber and not be fully cocked until you close the bolt all the way down. Bolt up doesn't mean all the way up. This dates way back in Africa with many of the hunters when hunting dangerous game. That might work if you hold the rifle in your hands for a brief period of time. No fugking way that works when slinging, changing, hands or throwing over your shoulder all day.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I guess you know more than the PHs in Africa when hunting dangerous game. It was very common and worked well.
No it did not work well. You were instructed by a fugking moron. It predates you and you are basically clueless in this practice. Bloodletting predates me as well. You were instructed by a fugking moron.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Whaddya fellas do when your upland bird hunting?
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Whaddya fellas do when your upland bird hunting? They all carry doubles and leave the action open…..
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What the hell do you all mean by bolt up? Doesn't the bolt then fall back to the rear, leaving the action open and if you have a live round in there, doesn't it go flying out?
There is a midway point that works on Mauser, M70s, and Ruger (maybe some others) that will keep it the round in the chamber and not be fully cocked until you close the bolt all the way down. Bolt up doesn't mean all the way up. This dates way back in Africa with many of the hunters when hunting dangerous game. That might work if you hold the rifle in your hands for a brief period of time. No fugking way that works when slinging, changing, hands or throwing over your shoulder all day. I never said anything about slinging, changing hands, or throwing it over my shoulder all day with the bolt up on a live round. This is only done when stalking the dangerous game. Get a clue.
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Whaddya fellas do when your upland bird hunting? Fugk your mom. LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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What the hell do you all mean by bolt up? Doesn't the bolt then fall back to the rear, leaving the action open and if you have a live round in there, doesn't it go flying out?
There is a midway point that works on Mauser, M70s, and Ruger (maybe some others) that will keep it the round in the chamber and not be fully cocked until you close the bolt all the way down. Bolt up doesn't mean all the way up. This dates way back in Africa with many of the hunters when hunting dangerous game. That might work if you hold the rifle in your hands for a brief period of time. No fugking way that works when slinging, changing, hands or throwing over your shoulder all day. I never said anything about slinging, changing hands, or throwing it over my shoulder all day with the bolt up on a live round. This is only done when stalking the dangerous game. Get a clue. OK I’ll get a clue. Because the safety on a Mauser 98 makes zero sense when compared to a bolt left in the half closed/half open position as one approaches the final stages of a stalk. LOL The fugking schit people come up with never ceases to amaze.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Whaddya fellas do when your upland bird hunting? Fugk your mom. LOL Bro, my mom is dead. It was tragic. A hunting accident. If only she'd listened to her PH...
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Whaddya fellas do when your upland bird hunting? Doves here mostly... some geese. 99% with a Browning Maxus. Cold chamber to the blind or stand... then hot with constant muzzle control. Almost never use a safety. I don't usually hunt in groups, but if Dick Cheney invited me I probably would oblige him...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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Y'all carry and hunt any way you want...
I am either cold chamber... or bolt up hot. When I carry bolt up I wedge a piece or corn between the bolt handle and the stock so it can’t fall down. I know stuff. Dummy. Evahbody know ya gotta use a Lima bean. Sheesh. Hold into the vegetables.
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