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Well, for one I appreciate the OP's story.
When I was 11 (1972), I broke my leg riding a dirt-bike. This was in the East Texas woods near Broaddus. I'm talking remote.
My 8-year old sister and 9-year old female cousin went back to the house (Honda 50's), several miles away down country dirt roads to get my mom. My 10-year-old male cousin and an 11 year-old friend stayed with me on their dirt bikes (Honda SL70).
On the way back to the house, my sister and cousin were confronted by a man blocking the road with a vehicle. My sister and cousin said that he had a small boy with him, crying, and the man was holding a pistol. He ordered them to stop. The girls turned around and fled to where I was laying with a broken leg and told us what happened. My 10-year-old cousin went with them and headed back toward the house. The vehicle, man, and boy were gone.
A while later, my mom and uncle arrived with the '72 Buick station wagon. At about that same time, a couple of early 20ish young men rode up on horses. They were amiable and helpful in getting me loaded into the station wagon for the 40 or so mile trip to Lufkin & a hospital. For some reason my uncle was spooked. He sent my mom in his station wagon to take me to the hospital, and said he was going to accompany the other kids home on my Honda.
Within months, the story of The CandyMan and the Houston Mass Murders broke. When Dean Corll's picture was shown on tv, my sister screamed. (She is still traumatized by thoughts of what happened to that young boy all these decades later). When we saw Elmer Wayne Henley's photo, we all recognized him as one of the young men on horse back.
They recovered over a dozen mutilated bodies of young boys within a half of mile of where we were. God was definitely with us that day or we would have been victims - like so many others.
I didn't have a gun, but I probably had a knife. I don't think it would have done much good. Wow, that's one hell of a story. I remember reading a book about that, that sick f-cker would stick glass rods up those kids peckers then break them.
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Well, for one I appreciate the OP's story.
When I was 11 (1972), I broke my leg riding a dirt-bike. This was in the East Texas woods near Broaddus. I'm talking remote.
My 8-year old sister and 9-year old female cousin went back to the house (Honda 50's), several miles away down country dirt roads to get my mom. My 10-year-old male cousin and an 11 year-old friend stayed with me on their dirt bikes (Honda SL70).
On the way back to the house, my sister and cousin were confronted by a man blocking the road with a vehicle. My sister and cousin said that he had a small boy with him, crying, and the man was holding a pistol. He ordered them to stop. The girls turned around and fled to where I was laying with a broken leg and told us what happened. My 10-year-old cousin went with them and headed back toward the house. The vehicle, man, and boy were gone.
A while later, my mom and uncle arrived with the '72 Buick station wagon. At about that same time, a couple of early 20ish young men rode up on horses. They were amiable and helpful in getting me loaded into the station wagon for the 40 or so mile trip to Lufkin & a hospital. For some reason my uncle was spooked. He sent my mom in his station wagon to take me to the hospital, and said he was going to accompany the other kids home on my Honda.
Within months, the story of The CandyMan and the Houston Mass Murders broke. When Dean Corll's picture was shown on tv, my sister screamed. (She is still traumatized by thoughts of what happened to that young boy all these decades later). When we saw Elmer Wayne Henley's photo, we all recognized him as one of the young men on horse back.
They recovered over a dozen mutilated bodies of young boys within a half of mile of where we were. God was definitely with us that day or we would have been victims - like so many others.
I didn't have a gun, but I probably had a knife. I don't think it would have done much good. Wow, that's one hell of a story. I remember reading a book about that, that sick f-cker would stick glass rods up those kids peckers then break them. I looked up this candyman and wish I hadn’t. Horrible.
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Got kidnapped when I was 5 years old, in 1974. Some strange hippy bastard grabbed me from out in front of the apartment complex we lived in back then. After a couple of hours he apparently thought better of it and tied me to a goalpost with my shoelaces over at the nearby school. During recess the kids found and untied me, took me to the office, and called the police; much to the relief of my frantic mother. There was a manhunt for the guy but they never caught him. Reflecting on this, there was either divine intervention or I was damned lucky!
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Edit in his favor ... may have meant as is now but not what original put I don't see an edit tag on the original post.
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A dude shares a compelling, heartfelt, obviously traumatic story from his history. Y'all act like Rachel Maddow and concentrate on grammar and placement of commas just to distract from the story.
Bunch of damn ass-hats...
I wasn't making fun bro, I was just saying HOLY SHIET. I know the story of the Candy Man and can't believe someone here has first hand knowledge. Glad you made it to adulthood. For Realz Just cuz the OP is FOS doesn't mean everyone else is
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Got kidnapped when I was 5 years old, in 1974. Some strange hippy bastard grabbed me from out in front of the apartment complex we lived in back then. After a couple of hours he apparently thought better of it and tied me to a goalpost with my shoelaces over at the nearby school. During recess the kids found and untied me, took me to the office, and called the police; much to the relief of my frantic mother. There was a manhunt for the guy but they never caught him. Reflecting on this, there was either divine intervention or I was damned lucky! Another HOLY SHIET!
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That fuggger be deddd aint he
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That fuggger be deddd aint he Both men in the picture are dead but Jeff Doucet, the rapist in the red shirt, died the day after the picture. Gary Plauche, THe father of the victim and the shooter, died of a stroke some years later.
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It depends on the situation. One time someone had the drop on me. I put my gun down.
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Well, they were probably safe since the youngest victim of the Candyman was 13 and most were in the range of 17 or so. They weren’t focused on children, they were focused on teenagers and the his teenage accomplices would lure the young men to parties with promises of drugs and booze.
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Do not conflate your misadventure with citizens confronting a criminal near their homes. The victims of the law in the jogger case found themselves unfairly subject to a convoluted and muddy part of the law which should have set right by their peers. When I was a youth with someone chasing for something I should not have done or was simply outnumbered I ran for cover and kept running. The criminal attempting to take the shotgun was expected by no one. He was deranged by birth or choice. The case was self defense after the victims got themselves in over their dimwitted heads. Under the law, it could happen to you if you approached someone who then attacked you because you approached them, putting yourself and your weapon near them, creating the situation resulting in their death. Also, ID isn't GA. The idea that mores and laws should be the same for people who live in what are practically different countries is ludicrous. Look: https://matadornetwork.com/read/map-shows-many-european-countries-can-fit-continental-us/
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Do not conflate your misadventure with citizens confronting a criminal near their homes. The victims of the law in the jogger case found themselves unfairly subject to a convoluted and muddy part of the law which should have set right by their peers. When I was a youth with someone chasing for something I should not have done or was simply outnumbered I ran for cover and kept running. The criminal attempting to take the shotgun was expected by no one. He was deranged by birth or choice. The case was self defense after the victims got themselves in over their dimwitted heads. Under the law, it could happen to you if you approached someone who then attacked you because you approached them, putting yourself and your weapon near them, creating the situation resulting in their death. Also, ID isn't GA. The idea that mores and laws should be the same for people who live in what are practically different countries is ludicrous. Look: https://matadornetwork.com/read/map-shows-many-european-countries-can-fit-continental-us/Preach it dumbasssss
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Anybody but a bunch of rednecks with double-digit IQ's should know that if you're going to shoot a groid, do it from long range, and don't take video!
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Well, for one I appreciate the OP's story.
When I was 11 (1972), I broke my leg riding a dirt-bike. This was in the East Texas woods near Broaddus. I'm talking remote.
My 8-year old sister and 9-year old female cousin went back to the house (Honda 50's), several miles away down country dirt roads to get my mom. My 10-year-old male cousin and an 11 year-old friend stayed with me on their dirt bikes (Honda SL70).
On the way back to the house, my sister and cousin were confronted by a man blocking the road with a vehicle. My sister and cousin said that he had a small boy with him, crying, and the man was holding a pistol. He ordered them to stop. The girls turned around and fled to where I was laying with a broken leg and told us what happened. My 10-year-old cousin went with them and headed back toward the house. The vehicle, man, and boy were gone.
A while later, my mom and uncle arrived with the '72 Buick station wagon. At about that same time, a couple of early 20ish young men rode up on horses. They were amiable and helpful in getting me loaded into the station wagon for the 40 or so mile trip to Lufkin & a hospital. For some reason my uncle was spooked. He sent my mom in his station wagon to take me to the hospital, and said he was going to accompany the other kids home on my Honda.
Within months, the story of The CandyMan and the Houston Mass Murders broke. When Dean Corll's picture was shown on tv, my sister screamed. (She is still traumatized by thoughts of what happened to that young boy all these decades later). When we saw Elmer Wayne Henley's photo, we all recognized him as one of the young men on horse back.
They recovered over a dozen mutilated bodies of young boys within a half of mile of where we were. God was definitely with us that day or we would have been victims - like so many others.
I didn't have a gun, but I probably had a knife. I don't think it would have done much good. Holy fugk. THat's terrifying. Not sure it would be easy to share either, thanks I was unfamiliar with the story. Now I wish I'd never read the wiki on it.
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I remember reading a book about that, that sick f-cker would stick glass rods up those kids peckers then break them.
ltpowell says there are no f a g s in Texas. LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I remember reading a book about that, that sick f-cker would stick glass rods up those kids peckers then break them.
ltpowell says there are no f a g s in Texas. LOL I did?
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I grew up near this event. I was also a very young lad when it happened. I specifically remembered how terrified the community got. Kids would walk to school in packs of 10-20 with numerous adults. One of my neighbors walked a bunch of us to school with a shotgun. Nobody said a word about it. When that last boy was murdered, the whole county about went ape chit. It was terrifying. I believe there were around 500 police officers dedicated to the case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakland_County_Child_Killer
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These are all great & interesting stories, but WTF do any of them have to do with the OP's question?
"Would you surrender your liberty to non LEO gunmen on the street?"
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"I don't see an edit tag on the original post."
He might want to edit again because I80 never gets close to 13 miles from the Oregon border.
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