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Those are amazing! Any idea the stone type and hardness? No, couldn't say if they were made in the area or trade ware. Lots of trade ware in central arizona from as far away as the the coast. I've seen huge seashell bracelets and necklaces. I've found travel lodges on long ridges, you can look and see how they would be trade routes from the rivers and valleys, over the mountains. Kent I have a few arrowheads that I’ve found. I have a few in a shadow box. Like you I will study them wondering about the people who made them. All of the items on this thread ask the same questions. Does the stone in the effigy seem as hard as granite?
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I try to pick up brass and shotgun shells when hunting. Sometimes I get caught up in the moment and forget. Got me in the habit of picking up brass, wads, and shotgun shells. Always makes me wonder if the Hunter got lucky.
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Jud, good stuff there. I usually find mylar balloons and schiedt. 30 miles from the nearest paved road, and a couple miles from the two track. Found a mylar balloon once, too. Usually old logging stuff; broken choker cables and old oil cans being the most common.
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In the early 90's, coon hunting by permit around a military camp, a buddy found a fully automatic M16 rifle leaning up against a tree. Dogs were treed and he said it was just right next to the tree they'd treed in. Had some rust. I told him to turn it in after he told me what he'd found. Can you imagine the reamin some youngster got for "losing" that Gov't property. Don't know if he turned it in or not but I said it would probably be jail if he was caught with it being Gov't property and class III. 1966 thru 1968, my dad was stationed at Pope AFB, which is inside of Ft Bragg, N,C. This was when Vietnam was really cranking up, and there was supposedly a 100,000 troops on base in basic training of some sort... 82nd AB was there, Home of Special Forces, 101st AB was there in 66, and moved to Ft Campbell KY in 67. It almost seemed any military personnel on base feel into two categories... either going to Vietnam or just came back from Vietnam. There is plenty of land at Ft Bragg being the largest Army installation in the country. Yet there were hunting zones all over the base, and as kids, we'd even wonder into places we shouldn't be. With all the training in the field going on, troops use to ditch all sorts of stuff into the brush so they wouldn't have to carry it. NOt being the only one, other kids in our Scout Troop, or while out hunting with their Dads, would find packs, sleeping bags, and tons of 308 and 223 ammo. Still packaged up, or in detachable magazines, not shot stuff, no rust on it.. just ditched by someone. We were suppose to turn that stuff in, but few ever did. about a decade ago, I took a military sleeping bag to the dump as it was falling apart.. I found that sleeping bag in 1967, and used it for decades, it being ALL over the USA and half of Canada. also found and kept a half dozen Shelter halves, so me and my brother had our own pup tents.. stuff just abandoned. Several times out hunting, I wandered into artillery impact zones deer hunting... and duds laying all over the place... some marked, many not. Wandered into one, that was scheduled for live fire. It rained shells for 30 minutes. After the first two, I found a foxhole nearby and just dove in and ate dirt. I was 15, but you never want to relive that experience again. The entire earth shook. but stupid kids, and crazy times. Life on military bases as a dependent certainly were nothing like the normal life a kid had, out in the civilian world, especially with Vietnam going on.
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Hunted and camped all over Az and have found old building remains, mines, crashed military jets with the bent to hell guns still in them. All kinds of shell casings from cannons to small arms and expended cannon shell heads and practice bombs down on the Barry Goldwater range. Even found an intact rocket half buried in the sand in a wash. Found an intact javalena skull while eating lunch on a rocky gorge side in eastern Az.. Old small nails from the Aravaipa mine there. All kinds of things. Some I kept and some I left. Indian stuff everywhere here. Love to havekept it all but don't have the room.
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155mm Howitzer rounds. Barnes Triple Shock prototypes. 😊
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Some really interesting stuff here. Thanks for sharing.
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I found some ancient .30-40 Krag rounds a long ways from a BLM road in WY a few years ago. We had a few minutes standing around discussing whose great-grandfather had shot at what? Questions without answers. Exact same thing here. Spotted an antelope on a ridge top. Hiked around to another ridge to get a shot. Layed down prone. Shot him. Picking up my pack see a cartridge laying there hand covered in sand. Pull it out and it too is a .30-40 Krag on BLM ground in Wyoming. It now rests in my nightstand collection of oddities.
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i found a dead guy in the middle of a lonely black top road around 0430 while traveling to my quail hunting spot outside Alachua, Florida. this was about 55 or 60 years ago.
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Those are amazing! Any idea the stone type and hardness? No, couldn't say if they were made in the area or trade ware. Lots of trade ware in central arizona from as far away as the the coast. I've seen huge seashell bracelets and necklaces. I've found travel lodges on long ridges, you can look and see how they would be trade routes from the rivers and valleys, over the mountains. Kent I have a few arrowheads that I’ve found. I have a few in a shadow box. Like you I will study them wondering about the people who made them. All of the items on this thread ask the same questions. Does the stone in the effigy seem as hard as granite? Yep hard, not weathered after 1000 years. Kent
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Very nice Kent! I noticed when I was in Arizona with Greg there was a lot cool Ol Indian forts/walls etc. lotsa stuff leftover from illegals too
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A buddy and I were taking a break from coyote hunting, sitting on a hilltop, when a fighter jet came up from behind and blew our doors off. Man, I bet that guy laughed his ass off.
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Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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wow cool find I found a mini ball ball hunting next to Antietam Creek 25 years ago laying on a gravel bar.
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Jud, good stuff there. I usually find mylar balloons and schiedt. 30 miles from the nearest paved road, and a couple miles from the two track. Hey Geno, if you ever find one of those old balloons out by Bly, don’t pick it up. OK! Found not too far from "civilization" Lid was underneath it still: And further south a coupla days later I found a big kitty track, right in front of the rocks I decided to eat lunch at, and after I had eaten.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Innocuous piece of clay? and less than 1/4 mile from a cattle tank that attracts elk and such, bastids didn't even make a cat hole. You'll have to click on the link as I typed in "s h i t"paper in the name and postimage won't let me correct it, so it gets "bleeped" [img]https://i.postimg.cc/brc5nthz/exposed-[bleep]-near-water.jpg[/img]
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Hunting north of Kremmling Colorado about thirty years ago I was sitting in a saddle watching a heavily used deer trail and wondering if anyone else ever was around this trail. Looking down I saw a .30-30 shell casing and about two feet from it was an arrow point. Still got the point in a case with others I have found.
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I think some wrangler didn't like his beans and tossed his dinner plate in the bushes a hundred or so years ago. Camera case for scale:
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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I was looking for Antelope east of Cody, WY. and found several refrigerators buried door side up and flush to the ground. They were on a line of hills above a 2 track that paralleled the Greybull hwy. I can only guess about their purpose.
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