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We get to sit by and watch inflation kill everything we have and are working for. If lumber prices hadn't gotten bad enough here the child molester is now doubling tariffs on lumber imported from Canada.
https://markets.businessinsider.com...ariffs-despite-rising-prices-2021-5?op=1

It's about goddam time the American timber industry got a break. Canadian timber is not priced at fair market value and hasn't been for over forty years. The sorry suck ass politicians made backroom deals with the UAW for votes, and then NAFTA and then USMCA to allow Canada to dump govt subsidized lumber down here to build Canada's lumber industry. Basically Canada practically GIVES their govt timber from Crown Lands to their mills...in the US mills have to buy govt and private timber at real world fair market value by bidding. No business can compete under a playing field that tilted.
Don't get me wrong, I hate Brandon as bad as the next guy, and really I wish the govt would stay the hell out of picking winners and losers in the business world...but loggers, millmen and truckers have been getting screwed for so long, they think it's the new normal. Meanwhile, the west is burning up more timber than we would consume...let's go Uncle Sam.

Maybe the mill here can get started back up and the county population can recover from the 10% downturn this last census?

Yeah...but I doubt prices will come down.

Everybody good with that? Buying American goods at higher prices?

Maybe the US government shouldn't TAX the lumber being harvested on government lands...

Anyone know how many mills closed because of tree huggers and the spotted owl in the last 40 years in Northern California?

Works for Big Pharma.

Who will work in the mill when you can live large on unemployment

It's an interesting situation when one of the corporations having a tariff applied to their lumber is Weyerhauser. Another is Louisiana Pacific. These companies may be able to backdoor some of their product by having it milled offshore on Korean or Chinese ships. This will be just fine with Joe and his supporters. This tariff plan is window dressing, nothing more. GD

You must be tired sweetie.

Go lay down.

You damn right i am, fugg China, Taiwan and canada

I am. While we’re at it I’d tariff the hell out of everything coming from China and Mexico too. One of the few legitimate functions of the federal government is regulating international trade, the founding fathers realized business a trying to compete with other countries employing unfair trade practices will quickly be out of business.

Everybody wants cheap foreign schitt but then complains when their jobs go away. Oh well, we can just put them on welfare or they can get a “service job” since we don’t actually produce anything here. They should all just learn to code. Oh wait, those jobs were all taken by H1b visa guys from India because they’ll work for 1/4 pay so they can bring 25 family members from the Mumbai slums.

Since 1978 no less than 6 mills in this county have folded. Thousands of family wage jobs gone. 3 of the 6 mills had their own timberlands and were self sufficient. Then, after the treaty with Canada was signed and the economy was totally destroyed, the [bleep] in DC said, uh oh, we didn't see that coming, let's give these counties that are mostly owned by the govt some "in lieu of property taxes" money. They did, and for about a decade those payments helped county roads and schools, then a new administration was elected, the DC [bleep] said, these rural counties are voting red...why are we giving them money? With the stroke of a pen, the "in lieu of property tax" money was gone. Schools closed, the average age of a Siskiyou County snowplow is 34 years old (for which the county has to pay penalty for old polluter diesel engines). Does anybody wonder why Jefferson State HATES big govt?

Alright....just checking.


Protectionism being anathema to conservatives and all that.

Thanks. Growing up i watched a lot of them close between Redding and the Oregon border.

Didn't Biden and the rest of the dems (and some Republicans) loudly howl when Trump put tariffs on China. Seems old Joe and those who vote for him have short or corrupt memories. Said it was bad for business. Well, unless Biden is doing it.

They’ve got this new thing out called The Constitution. It mentions something in there about tariffs and borders. Call me funny but I kinda thought paying attention to the constitution went along with being conservative.

You must have a remodel planned.

Is that in the constitution?

Conrad might have a different view if it was hundreds of trucks and trains a week roaring south over the Canada border hauling beef, pork and lamb all raised to butcher weight on Canadian govt free hay...because that's what it amounts to.

No, I own a bunch of timberland and am tired of getting nothing for my timber because Canadians are allowed to dump theirs on the US market.