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Originally Posted by smokepole
I did Google it. Sheba Clinic?


Presently the leading company is AEBI, Accelerated Evolution Biotechnologies. I believe it’s managed by a gentleman named Aridor.

The process uses Peptides and toxins that disallow cancer to supress the immune system from recognizing it as being alien as it typically does further down the line.

Very interesting and “supposedly “ will be on the market and available within a year.


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Thanks for the info Houston.



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the body, just like your car, breaks down. Cancer is a thing that happens, not a specific malady that can be cured or prevented with any guarantee of success.

As I understand it, cancer cells come into existence in our bodies periodically throughout everyone's lives. They are identified and destroyed by the immune system. What we call "cancer" is when the body has failed to identify a particular type of cancer cell, and it runs wild. Typically, this is due to a defect in the immune system, which can be caused by multiple factors, one of which is poor diet over a long period of time.


That is my understanding as well. Cancers themselves aren't necessarily hereditary or caused by external factors; the tendency for the immune system to be compromised in a way that allows various cancer cells to propagate and not be destroyed is. Poor diet, especially over a long period of time, is not just a major contributor to cancer but most other chronic diseases as well.


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An alkaline body isn't exactly a cure for cancer but it certainly is the path toward combating it. The Koreans and Japanese have been doing this for centuries. Alkaline and high Oxidation Reduction Potential water is used for almost any ailment in their culture. In addition, the Okinawans are famous for eating coral calcium to help raise body pH.

But homeostasis forces your body back into a normal pH range regardless how much alkaline water you drink or supplements you take. Your average blood pH is in the 7.35 to 7.45 pH range. One has to work pretty hard to force blood much higher and if you do, alkalosis can trigger a whole host of other life threatening problems for you. They call it homeostasis for a reason.

If you want a healthy immune system, cut out all sugar and carbs and consume more saturated fats - nut and avocado oils are best. Your PSA for the day.


I think the issue isn't so much trying to force your body to a higher pH than normal, although this is a method used to target disease once it occurs. The issue is that among other things the modern diet, including many brands of bottled water, acidifies the body, lowering the normal pH range to unhealthy levels.

Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food ― Hippocrates

Among the industrial food and industrial health care crowd the resistance to these ideas has obvious origins. Among the public it's more subtle; a combination of conditioning to believe in government agencies and marketing copy, and an addiction to convenience. As Reagan pointed out concerning freedom and liberty, they must be maintained and defended by each generation for it's own sake; it's not a given. The same applies to health and fitness; you have to take responsibility, both mentally and physically, for your own. Bureaucratic agencies, corporations, and even most doctors aren't going to promote what's in your best interest. They're going to promote what's in their own.


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Originally Posted by Houston_2
Originally Posted by WTM45
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Have you ever seen a Grateful Dead fan with cancer?

Yep. Bilateral lung.
Now gone.




Keith Richards?

Willie Nelson?

But have you ever seen a sick Indian? It's the snake oil they consume.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Originally Posted by WTM45
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Have you ever seen a Grateful Dead fan with cancer?

Yep. Bilateral lung.
Now gone.




Keith Richards?

Willie Nelson?

But have you ever seen a sick Indian? It's the snake oil they consume.



Gotta be.

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Originally Posted by smokepole
Thanks for the info Houston.


We’re good.

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Originally Posted by ipopum


Depends on the cancer. The DR just cuts my skin cancer off. Cured


Thats a crock of crap. You get one cut off and you’ll be a patient for life.

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No long term money in a cure.

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Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
An alkaline body isn't exactly a cure for cancer but it certainly is the path toward combating it. The Koreans and Japanese have been doing this for centuries. Alkaline and high Oxidation Reduction Potential water is used for almost any ailment in their culture. In addition, the Okinawans are famous for eating coral calcium to help raise body pH.

But homeostasis forces your body back into a normal pH range regardless how much alkaline water you drink or supplements you take. Your average blood pH is in the 7.35 to 7.45 pH range. One has to work pretty hard to force blood much higher and if you do, alkalosis can trigger a whole host of other life threatening problems for you. They call it homeostasis for a reason.

If you want a healthy immune system, cut out all sugar and carbs and consume more saturated fats - nut and avocado oils are best. Your PSA for the day.


I think the issue isn't so much trying to force your body to a higher pH than normal, although this is a method used to target disease once it occurs. The issue is that among other things the modern diet, including many brands of bottled water, acidifies the body, lowering the normal pH range to unhealthy levels.

Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food ― Hippocrates

Among the industrial food and industrial health care crowd the resistance to these ideas has obvious origins. Among the public it's more subtle; a combination of conditioning to believe in government agencies and marketing copy, and an addiction to convenience. As Reagan pointed out concerning freedom and liberty, they must be maintained and defended by each generation for it's own sake; it's not a given. The same applies to health and fitness; you have to take responsibility, both mentally and physically, for your own. Bureaucratic agencies, corporations, and even most doctors aren't going to promote what's in your best interest. They're going to promote what's in their own.



It comes down to gene suppression and activation. Poor health from genetic tendencies, diet, environment, stress, etc can suppress genes that are directly associated with cancer suppression. Suppress them long enough and the immune system stops hunting for cancers and tumors. But, if you can reactivate suppressor genes through diet and environment, your body stands a better chance of targeting cancer cells. This is the whole concept behind targeted gene therapies for cancer patients.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/researchers-find-small-molecule-can-activate-important-cancer-suppressor-gene#:~:text=Researchers%20Find%20that%20a%20Small%20Molecule%20Can%20Activate,suicide%20through%20a%20complex%20signaling%20pathway%20called%20apoptosis.

Stay healthy my friends!

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Originally Posted by STRSWilson
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Originally Posted by STRSWilson
An alkaline body isn't exactly a cure for cancer but it certainly is the path toward combating it. The Koreans and Japanese have been doing this for centuries. Alkaline and high Oxidation Reduction Potential water is used for almost any ailment in their culture. In addition, the Okinawans are famous for eating coral calcium to help raise body pH.

But homeostasis forces your body back into a normal pH range regardless how much alkaline water you drink or supplements you take. Your average blood pH is in the 7.35 to 7.45 pH range. One has to work pretty hard to force blood much higher and if you do, alkalosis can trigger a whole host of other life threatening problems for you. They call it homeostasis for a reason.

If you want a healthy immune system, cut out all sugar and carbs and consume more saturated fats - nut and avocado oils are best. Your PSA for the day.


I think the issue isn't so much trying to force your body to a higher pH than normal, although this is a method used to target disease once it occurs. The issue is that among other things the modern diet, including many brands of bottled water, acidifies the body, lowering the normal pH range to unhealthy levels.

Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food ― Hippocrates

Among the industrial food and industrial health care crowd the resistance to these ideas has obvious origins. Among the public it's more subtle; a combination of conditioning to believe in government agencies and marketing copy, and an addiction to convenience. As Reagan pointed out concerning freedom and liberty, they must be maintained and defended by each generation for it's own sake; it's not a given. The same applies to health and fitness; you have to take responsibility, both mentally and physically, for your own. Bureaucratic agencies, corporations, and even most doctors aren't going to promote what's in your best interest. They're going to promote what's in their own.



It comes down to gene suppression and activation. Poor health from genetic tendencies, diet, environment, stress, etc can suppress genes that are directly associated with cancer suppression. Suppress them long enough and the immune system stops hunting for cancers and tumors. But, if you can reactivate suppressor genes through diet and environment, your body stands a better chance of targeting cancer cells. This is the whole concept behind targeted therapies for cancer patients.

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/researchers-find-small-molecule-can-activate-important-cancer-suppressor-gene#:~:text=Researchers%20Find%20that%20a%20Small%20Molecule%20Can%20Activate,suicide%20through%20a%20complex%20signaling%20pathway%20called%20apoptosis.

Stay healthy my friends!


Some years back there was a great health article in Scientific American (American Scientific?) titled “Subduing The Supressors”.

A doctor at Baylor had a method that halted stage 4 cancers in some people involved in the study. I believe his name is Doctor Jacques Bercejay.

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Baylor and MD Anderson were/are the leaders in immune system activation to combat cancer. If, Lord forbid, I am ever faced with cancer, MD Anderson will be my first stop.


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Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Baylor and MD Anderson were/are the leaders in immune system activation to combat cancer. If, Lord forbid, I am ever faced with cancer, MD Anderson will be my first stop.


Yep.
Dana Farber cancer center might be another.

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I had a friend that quit sugar because cancer eats sugar.

So....he just didn't get to eat pleasant food before he died..basically.


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