Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics So Leupold are Junk anymore. Now what

Just don't give him a box of nosler bullets. It's tougher than velcro shoes for communist jeff.

Got a 2003 Nikon Monarch 2-7X 32 that's still fine. No need for more.

Those were good scopes! (From what I recall, they were made by the same Japanese company that produces Nightforces, Tract Torics and SWFAs.)

Thanks for the report. That's the sort of stuff I keep hearing, the reason am hoping to range-test my VX5 soon.

I just got notification that my latest Leupold to die is due back here Friday. It is a VX-II that died way to young. It hasn't been used that much. I hope they really fixed it!

I have had 3 repaired in the past. One was an ancient M8 4X that they got right first try. One was a very well used 3-9 Compact that sat on several different rifles over the years. I even used it to shoot High Power Rifle Silhouette for a while where it was constantly adjusted up and down. Leupold fixed it and it worked fine but they left a piece of dirt in it so I sent it back again. The other is a FX-III 12X that I bought used here on the 'Fire to put on my silhouette rifle. It would not track so I sent it in. Leupold sent it back and it still didn't track. I called them up and asked what I had to do to get them to fix that scope so it would track. They said to send it back. They fixed it the second time. Haven't had a problem with it since.

John, thanks for the info re: the current Burris stuff.

I'm truly snakebit when it comes to Burris stuff. With the exception of a Signature 8-32 that I used for spot and stalk fox and coyote hunting, everything 'B' has been a tangled up hot mess. The latest debacle is a 4-12 Compact that was NIB that I purchased in the '90's and USPS destroyed recently in shipping. USPS won't cover my insurance claim since I don't have the original invoice and Burris can't supply a price since it's discontinued. The final kick in the head is that Burris can't repair it as they have no parts. But they will replace it with a current model of some type.

Of course, none of this is Burris' fault but it just shows how me and Big B seemingly are not meant to be. I'm actually hoping to try a replacement for the damaged 4-12 Compact.

The only Leupold that's died on me was a 6X42 A.O. after over 4,000 rounds on my .30 cal, 10lb. Hunter Benchrest gun. It didn't really 'die'...the parallax just got increasingly fussy to correct. The repair sheet from Leupold showed that the lenses had been reset.

I used to wonder why Burris had the turrets so far forward on their early scopes until I saw a cutaway showing the brass erector tube. Leverage is a wonderful thing!

Good shootin'. -Al

What was the turnaround time? I know they say 4-6 weeks, but how realistic is that?

Lmao @ "Leupold are junk". What an ass hat statement.

Leupold riflescopes are probably the best money I ever spent...on anything. Don't be jealous of something you can't afford.

This the ass hat statement leupolds aren't that expensive

Al, yep the brass erector-tube Burris scopes were interesting, to say the least! Among other things, they also proved problematic to mount, because of the placement of the adjustment turrets.

They eventually got away from that, and as I mentioned around the early 2000s started were pretty darn good scopes. One of the interesting changes was lighter erector tubes, and often using heavy coil-springs to move the tubes--instead of flat springs, as many companies did (and some still do).

One of the toughest Burris scopes I've owned was the 1.5-5x model (as I recall the "Safari") that's now discontinued, apparently because not many hunters want low-magnification scopes anymore. Mine got abused considerably on several rifles, including my CZ .416 Rigby, especially when I did an extensive handloading project involving pushing the old round to .416 Weatherby pressures and velocities--around 2650 fps with 400-grain bullets. The scope just kept working very well.

Unfortunately, one of the other realities of writing about scopes is that many companies prefer that you not mention scopes they don't make anymore--even though the company name is still involved. So when they discontinued the 1.5-5x I eventually moved it along, partly because there were other new scopes I needed to attempt to break on the .416.

Best,
John

Depends which models you're talking

They aren't in S&B price range plus they have some low dollar models as well
Your original post just didn't cut the mustard.

It is about 4 weeks since I sent it in. I am surprised. They turned it around in under 4 weeks. I just hope it works now!

Typical Biden voter, clueless

Had two serviced past couple years. The M8-8x abruptly turned into a rattle. The VX 3-9x33 compact EFR lost its AO. Turnaround time for each was around 4 weeks. Just got the EFR back, AO seems to work but the ocular is stiff. Undecided, have to mess with it more. M8 is fine.

Have a bunch of VX3s. First, none would pass a box test. More like a trapezoid......or maybe a parallelogram. Or a combination. Second, ergo sight-in involves multiple rounds. Cuz who knows what the adjustments actually deliver. Third, after sight-in a separate trip to verify nothing changed is necessary for some of them. No, not all of them......but which ones? None of mine are CDS. '90s to '00s mostly.

Have not had noticeable zero shift after verifying on separate trip. Which is why I continue to use them. But will buy something else going forward.

John, THANK YOU for what is arguably the best post EVER on scopes and their virtues and maladies. I really enjoyed it. I will have to look into Burris' now . As two failures, my biggest disappointment was a "real" and expensive Zeis on a Model 70 300 H&H which is not a particularly punishing caliber. On Leupolds, I've had one fail completely, but my biggest issue with them over the last few years was adjustment. They simply didn't work as advertised. Once zero was set they seem to hold, even on medium to heavy recoiling rifles, thankfully, I'm not a "knob turner."

Lastly, and to the newer members of the Forum, NEVER, EVER trust ANYTHING JeffO (more commonly know as JeffObama, Gunttruck50) says. He is a prevaricating, dope smoking, democrat ball washer and those are some of his better attributes, but more to the point, his bullshitting about his hunting, ballistics, etc., are legendary in their excremental component.

Cheers,

Around here, sight in issues are always Leupolds fault and have nothing to do with the trigger puller...

Grabbed a different gun at the last minute this year, one that has sat for a couple years, loaded up 23 new rounds...4 or 5 in just over an inch, cold and warm barrel...rang steel at 300...load shoot, load shoot, repeat....Finished up in about 30 minutes total.....Killed another Deer with a Leupold and a cold, dirty barrel...

Addition: That rifle has been shoot approximately 1500 to 2000 times...All with the same Leupold 6x42...

I had a 2-10, won in one of Doug’s drawings, and it worked perfectly on my FC, aside from the reticle bleed issue. It wasn’t “tested” or abused, just sighted in and used. Nice view, and easy to get behind. I sold it to a local Fire member when it came back from the reticle replacement, mostly due to a case of Tract Lust I picked up here. No complaints, but I don’t think I’d give $900 of my own money for another. If yours holds up, I’m pretty sure you’ll like it.

Will it get a ride on your Heym?

I'll put my VX5 scopes up against anything in the same price range. It won't even be comparable.

They will not beat a Track Toric which cost less. Your experience or more like lack of is showing