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Reading impaired, or just comprehension impaired?

+1 Hanco, and that applies not only to Mule Deer, but Phil Shoemaker too. We're lucky to have both and personally, I don't want some fool alienating either one. Life is too short for that kind of fooliishness.

You've got the wrong idea. Phil is a fount of knowledge no one else has. Why, we were discussing the behavior of Woodleigh softs, and he was able to pop in and tell us he was disappointed using one on the northernmost end of a southbound bear. Now who else is going to have that kind of specific, actionable knowledge? So of course we asked him to provide details - how exactly had the Woodleigh failed? But when specifics were asked, Phil disappeared like an ursine backside through the alders. I guess the ass of america's great bears waits for no man...

Dude. We are super sorry your buddy didn't keep himself alive. Maybe an airstrike next time?

However the odds are about the same as dying from covid and the rest of us are fine with the risks we take.

You have added zero to the conversation. So GFY and find somewhere else to hang out that meets your kingly standards, azzhole.

Keep on driving with your mask on sweetie.

Y'all think maybe Bob Brown is now a Llama?

Mule Deer,

Have you worked with the 6.5-300 Weatherby anymore? I vaguely recall an article.

Reloading information is really hard to come by. Thoughts?

He’s got a familiar ring to another 2 or 3 screen names that have/had an answer to every question.

Did the article on the 6.5-.300 for the HODGDON ANNUAL MANUAL back when the cartridge first appeared. Worked with it considerably for a couple years, but finally decided I didn't care for the recoil compared to the results. Basically found it got exactly the same ballistics as the 26 Nosler with the same powders, charges and bullets, which isn't surprising given that both cases have just about exactly the same powder capacity.

But eventually decided I didn't care for the recoil of either round, compared to the results. These days am much happier with the 6.5 PRC, which is essentially a short-action 6.5-06--which I also used for a while and liked a lot. But my custom Sisk PRC weighs a couple pounds less than the 6.5-06 Shaw rifle I used for several year.

He was definitely a big mouth douche

Seems he could be directly related to Mike Werner same know it all attitude?

The Dolly Llama showed his azz again.....

Well I have carried a 338 WM for years. I have only dealt with a grizz in wyo. I was outside of Cody and never seen him. He was outside my tent trying to get in the bear box, he moved on. I had killed a deer a few days before and hung it outside of a campground about 1/4 mile +. I heard him woofing from that general area. In the morning I dropped of a hunting partner so he could head up the hills to hunt. My other buddy and I headed to where my deer and his was hung up. He had killed and hung his the day before, driving up to the tree he remarks why is my deer so low and where is yours?. All that was left of mine was his head and part of a chewed up hind quarter twisted up in a rope. It was laying up the hill. My buddy lost both hind quarters they were shredded and eaten on. My best guess is my buddy used part of my rope to hang his and ended up lowering mine to hang his.
Anyways I backed up the truck under his and stood guard with the 338 while he took what was left of his deer and my head onto the tailgate. I guess the stopping rifle is more about what you feel comfortable with and shoot well. Most of us don’t have the experience to make decision based on actual experience, so people like MD and Phil opinions are beneficial.
I hunted another time in Wyo with a fishing guide from Alaska.
, he told me about killing a charging grizzly at very close distance, his rifle was chambered in 416 rem. Can’t argue about the stopping power or whether he was comfortable with his choice.
Jeff

Obviously not you.

The 7mm-08 is a very balanced cartridge when you pour over ballistic charts, whereas the 308 is a very balanced cartridge.

I like the 325WSM. Power when it's needed, otherwise OK to be loaded at pussycat speeds. Bulletmaker support be damned, brass support be damned-ish (300WSM lends itself). <400 yards isn't hunting so... yeah all do well when placed properly. Some do better when things are sub-optimal.

So well said, and absolutely mirrors my experience with both rounds.

Part of me just died inside…

It's a sad commentary on the times when Real Deal respected people...willing to share their expertise and experiences...get thrashed and harassed here. -Al

Quote from Puddles post


I tell them to start first at the bullet and then work backwards towards how it's delivered.

Well put IMHO

I don’t believe that for a moment! Your 7mm-08 posts have always been inspirational. I still hunt with mine.